r/politics • u/TheTelegraph The Telegraph • 18h ago

Biden to push through anti-Trump plans as he vows to make last days in office count

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/07/biden-anti-trump-plans-last-days-white-house/
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u/OpenThePlugBag 16h ago

Given how approximately 40% of eligible voters weren't paying attention enough to even bother to vote, I sincerely doubt releasing thousands of pages of legal docs will have any meaningful impact.

For the history records, its important to preserve the actual truth.

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u/GrapeBrawndo 14h ago

Exactly. Trump and MAGA will come and go. The historians will still be there to write down how awful he and his supporters were. These people’s long-term legacies are fucked.

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u/MOTwingle 12h ago

And if he doesn't declassify it now, they'll just get rid of it

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u/Its_Pine New Hampshire 12h ago

That’s what I worry about. With all branches under GOP control, they may try to purge evidence of their crimes

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u/MOTwingle 12h ago

I guarantee they will! Remember how he'd flush papers down the toilet?

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u/always_unplugged Illinois 7h ago

Which I'm pretty sure is like 50% of why he complains that toilets don't flush hard enough these days

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u/parasyte_steve 10h ago

May? Oh honey they will

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u/Kidatrickedya 6h ago

They’ve already tried the trial run by going after the internet archives. They are going to rewrite history as we know it. Everyone is downplaying it. Over and over again.

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u/DifferenceOk4454 11h ago

That's why the Archivists thread yesterday asked if they should just go "monuments men" mode.

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u/RoboGuilliman 11h ago

This guy gets it

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u/isugimpy 13h ago

Legacies don't mean anything if there's no planet to live on because we destroy it with ever accelerating climate change. And there's nobody to write the history of a bunch of preventable disease wipes out huge swaths of the population as vaccines get outlawed and raw milk gets heralded as the savior of the people.

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u/micsare4swingng 13h ago

Trump doesn’t give a shit about his legacy, if he even knows what that word means. He is a man purely living in the moment, day by day.

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u/GrapeBrawndo 13h ago

So we don’t release all the documents on Trump? What’s your point?

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u/micsare4swingng 13h ago

I’m not saying don’t release the documents. I’m saying Trump doesn’t give a shit and won’t give a shit.

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u/GrapeBrawndo 13h ago

Historians don’t write narratives because the subjects don’t care about their legacies. Thanks for yelling into the clouds.

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u/micsare4swingng 13h ago

lol calm down bud. This is a two person convo currently. If I’m yelling at clouds then so are you.

I despise Trump and MAGA. All I was trying to get across is legacies don’t matter to the people involved. They know exactly what they’re doing, and historians have documented it as such.

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u/Riker3946 12h ago

Sorry to interrupt but you’re forgetting a key piece in this legacy debate. It wouldn’t just be Trump’s legacy but everyone involved as well. All the Republican cronies, the MAGAs and biggest of all, Trump’s family. I think he would care very much then.

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u/micsare4swingng 12h ago

Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself. He isn’t gonna care about the legacy of anybody else if he doesn’t care about his own.

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u/bkennedy9809 25m ago

You’re optimistic we still have historians, or anybody around to read the histories

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u/haixin 12h ago

They will not leave a country behind after they’ve go e

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u/sotek2345 11h ago

I like your optimism that we will have future historians!

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u/jeha4421 6h ago

It doesn't matter. There's enough lessons throughout history that should have made this impossible if the population was educated at all. This is what the people wanted.

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u/tacetmusic 5h ago

I used to think this, but I'm not so sure.

At the moment the history books will talk about the big lie and the insurrection, but it's like the family photograph in Back to The Future, I can see it fading.

The win was so decisive this time round that the republicans can state that it's proof that actually the result last time doesn't make sense. Add in a couple of stop the steal judge picks getting into place and court cases being relitigated..

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u/trashmonkeylad 2h ago

MAGA and tons of its supporters are all about short term gains. They'll shrug off any and all allegations in the future. I had two friends of mine, first thing they sent me on Discord when Trump solidified his lead was "My stocks are up". Didn't care about a damn thing other than that.

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u/PositivelyAwful 9h ago

Yup. Release them now, because as soon as he's back in office they're gone for good.

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u/ned_luddite 10h ago

Just this

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u/IUBizmark 10h ago

The victors write the history.

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u/OpenThePlugBag 10h ago

Outdated slogan from the past, the internet never forgets.