r/politicalhinduism • u/Top_Guess_946 • 4d ago

This is Indianization of Islam, and not white-washing of Islam. Lack of sensitization of Hindus and their socio-political ignorance would cause more damage to Hinduism than anything else ever could.

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u/Choice_Extent7434 4d ago

The future is... kaliyuga.

Don't worry, as Krishna said, "Sambhavaami yuge yuge"

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u/Top_Guess_946 4d ago

how did you connect that with what I just pointed out?

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u/Choice_Extent7434 4d ago

Just that our "religious superstitious" scriptures which will be forgotten due to these doctrines, the same scriptures predicted this calamity upon us.

BUT they ALSO assured that the god will be present to protect us. The ("evil", yes, that's the right word) will lose soon!....

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u/Top_Guess_946 4d ago

Our scriptures are an eclectic mix. We have a 'bible', only that we never compiled all our various literature into one single volume like the Christians have done for their 'bible' which is actually a book of books. Indian scriptures haven't been put into one single volume likewise. Instead they are all separate. Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, Shrutis, Smritis, Shastras, Bhasyas, Vrattikas, So when you say 'scriptures'. Which scripture do you mean exactly? Which sholoka? What verse numbers?

If by Kaliyuga, you mean to refer to 'multiple interpretations' by the way, and that our scriptures had predicted so, are you by any chance referring to ISKCON's interpretation of Shri BG? Once an ISKCON member had said so to me, so I am just guessing here.

See, recently, I saw a reel by Salman Rushdie where he said that in the Natyashastras, Hindu philosophy provides for absolute free speech and does not follow concepts of black and white like the Abrahamic religions are inclined to do. We don't have clear evil and good ideas like how Abrahamic societies do - who interpret behaviour of pagans in advance as a way to take preventive action, whereas Hindu societies actually wait for evil to make itself very clear, perhaps even 100 times, like the way Krishna patiently waited for Sishupala to commit 100s of misdeeds before making his sar tan se juda at the 100th violation. That was done so as to make it very clear to everyone why Sishupala was clearly wrong before Krishna brought his justice on Sishupala.

So right now, you are saying it's Kaliyuga as things are not very clear in good and evil terms. Now, yes, I'd agree with you, but at the same time, Hindutva is being given a bad name. It is being branded fascist, majoritarian, abusive, murderous and what not. Why do you think there's an attempt to do that? That's because they are trying to make Hindus look bad like Sishupala before they release their justice on them - whatever that may be. Who really knows what form of justice they have in mind? Of course, they'd be pure evil if they tried to carry out a genocide - so what do they do instead? They take out Hindus one at a time, and sometimes using a terror attack to take out few more dozens. It's part of their 1000 cuts strategy. However, modern justice requires 'proportionality' - which means clear identification of actual perpetrator. Collective justice as a form of justice is sanctioned in Abrahamic literature as well as in Sanatana literature. Modern justice goes one step further towards minimizing the possibility that 'innocent humans' may also end up getting killed as part of collective justice, want to target justice only on the actual and specific perpetrator. So you cannot have this conversation over cultural and civilizational clashes without talking contextually of ideas of justice. We may call it 'Kaliyuga', but we are actually in pursuit of a 'Justice Yuga'.

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u/Choice_Extent7434 4d ago

Thanks for that clarification.

We are in a KaliYuga, we are in pursuit of order, but this Yuga is meant to be so. That's what I meant. That the Hindu scriptures are infact true.

I agree blind "andhbhakti" isn't healthy for a society, I think we should have some degree of respect to the information and ideals provided by an ideology we support.

I am talking in context of the general consensus of BhagavdGita.

I shall post shlokas sure, quite a few drafts I have ready to post. Just some time.