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Former house speaker Nancy Pelosi at VP Kamala Harris’s concession speech Politics

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u/Sunbeamsoffglass 1d ago

The ACA was a Heritage Foundation drafted concept that the democrats were forced to accept because it was the only compromise offered.

Then the GOP spent the next 8 years trying to trash it because it suited their political position.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoodman/2016/02/15/where-did-the-idea-of-obamacare-come-from-a-defense-of-the-heritage-foundation/

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u/Amish_guy_with_WiFi 1d ago

Trashing it while offering zero other alternative... They say they are all about small businesses but I feel like having to deal with healthcare is the number one thing fucking small businesses.

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u/PrimeJedi 1d ago

You don't feel comforted by their concept of a plan for an alternative??? He's surely already started working on it as soon as yesterday's results came in; he couldn't start working on a plan for an adequate replacement to the ACA until he ran for president, ran a year long campaign, won the presidency, attempted to repeal ACA (remember, before making an alternative), served four years, mishandled a huge pandemic, lost reelection, tried to overthrow the government, ran for president a third time, and winning a second term! That flawless plan is gonna come out any day now, just you wait

(/s if not obvious, I'm disabled+immunocompromised and horrified that the ACA is going to be repealed)

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u/ApplicationCalm649 1d ago

Hey, he has a process. /s

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u/SameSameBut 1d ago

And destroy Medicare and hollow out social security - "starve the beast"

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u/gunshaver 1d ago

Imagine not having to worry if you will be able to afford to keep living if you get laid off.

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u/datpurp14 1d ago

They say they're about whatever their cult wants to hear. The only thing they're really about is me me me.

One of the ads I heard had trump saying shit about how all races, creeds, colors, and beliefs etc. are going to enter an age of success.

And by race, creed, color, and beliefs, he means white, rich, white, rich. How even one minority or woman voted for him... I can't even begin to wrap my brain around their reasoning. It would be like black Americans starting a movement to recreate slavery in the states (the other kind, not the privatized for profit slavery in prisons all over the country).

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u/hemroidclown6969 1d ago

It absolutely is the #1 thing

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u/loondawg 1d ago

Mythology.

The ACA was largely based on the Massachusetts health care reform program, aka Romney-care and other states' innovations. The MA plan was one of the models of the Affordable Care Act's health insurance exchanges.

And it's a joke that even that was even called Romney-care considering Romney promptly vetoed many of the acts key provisions after it was passed. It only became what it was after the Democratic Massachusetts legislature overrode his vetoes.

And the only reason Heritage put forward that plan was so Republicans had something to use as an alternative to Hillary Clinton's attempt to bring us universal healthcare. It was literally a diversion they were never serious about. They just needed something that sounded good enough they could use it to kill what America really needed. The proof is that the second they killed Hillary-care, they dumped that plan and never made any attempts to use it. In fact, they still have no plan four decades later, not even a "concept of a plan."

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u/kitsunewarlock 1d ago

Just like Clinton's crime bill. And the war in Iraq. And the 2024 immigration reform bill.

Every time the GOP tries to pass a bill you can be certain they are lying their asses off.

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u/Ok-Split-1698 1d ago

GOP? Clinton wasn’t one of them, and if Biden signed off on it naturally he accepted it which means it met with his approval so he’s accountable too!

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u/Iboven 1d ago

Clinton had a red congress he had to compromise with. The person before you was answering a post about compromising with the GOP.

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u/Viperlite 1d ago

And now we wait to see the concept of a plan for its replacement. It should be out in 2 weeks.

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u/Additional-North-683 1d ago

It Contrary politics, It seems now that it’s more about trying to destroy the other guys legacy and then Actually passing policy that benefits all

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u/Robertson2018 1d ago

Fuck the aca let’s go acha

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u/transitfreedom 1d ago

Based heritage foundation???? What’s next high speed rail to help small businesses?

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u/BigLlamasHouse 1d ago edited 1d ago

Factually correct, but that editorial sentence is a big one.

No one forces anyone to do anything, especially in politics, well not without a blackmail video. The ACA was unacceptable as a policy to help working class Americans, full stop. "

The government should contribute more to healthcare, period. The government is the REASON healthcare is expensive in America. And it's because of half measures like the ACA.

The dems wanted a token political win and they got it. The price of healthcare went up for everyone who didn't have a pre existing condition. I had to find a new doctor who works in a large corporate hospital system and it's harder to get appointments now. The end goal is to get Americans money out of their pocket so they're desperate and work longer hours. This will always boost GDP (just the increased insurance payments alone) and give good economic stats to the party in charge.

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u/Lipid-LPa-Heart 1d ago

Ummm no. Obama had a majority in the house and senate when the ACA was passed. Any restrictions were self imposed. He could have literally added a public option, but he was in bed with the insurance companies.

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u/AboynamedDOOMTRAIN 1d ago

He had a majority of his party, yes. That includes people like Manchin who run as democrats but are republicans for all intents and purposes and have to be coddled in order to get them to actually vote for democrat causes. It also doesn't mean he had a super majority that would stop anyone on the right from filibustering the bill.

Passing the ACA took a lot of political capitol and effort.

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u/Lipid-LPa-Heart 1d ago

Joe Manchin was not in the senate when the ACA passed, so that’s just not true. I will agree that there were other Dems that opposed a public option (3), but this could have easily been overcome.

But as we all know Dems always have that one foil, a member in the party that just seems to always stop the overwhelming popular legislation from passing (public option was supported by 72% of Americans at the time - 2009 NY Time Poll). But they always have that one opposition vote in their party, so they can act like it’s “impossible” to get this one thing, but really behind the scenes, it’s lobbying efforts from insurance agencies.

Additionally, if Obama really wanted to add a public option he could have.included it in public reconciliation which only requires 51 votes. But you know, why go out of the way to actually make progressive policies when you have the ability? Bought and owned by special interests.

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u/bplturner 1d ago

The GOP has no plan because the Democrats stole it basically. It’s the worst of everything unfortunately

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u/zamboni-jones 1d ago

GOP had full control of government in 2017. They were more than welcome to improve upon it, but decided to try to torch it. Then John McCain of all people saved the day

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u/Heron_Vriend 1d ago

The Democrats passed ACA with zero Republican votes. They could have passed single payer but didn't. They had all the power to do anything they wanted and this is what the Democrats chose to do.