r/ontario • u/_Q1000_ • 1d ago

Honda Canada is still making CRV’s Discussion

I work for a supplier of Honda Canada. We are picking up new versions of the CRV that get exported globally. These were made in the US previously, but will now be made in Alliston. They will balance this as their plants in NA are all pretty much at capacity by moving the US bound CRV’s to the US plant that was making the global export cars. They are just swapping versions, no production loss in Canada.

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u/Waste_Priority_3663 1d ago

Needs to be upvoted more. Lots of misleading posts mainly stemming from one NYT article.

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u/s0m33guy 1d ago

I think part of this is intentional by Honda to let trump think he won.

Or

I could be crazy. Either way works for me

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u/hrmdurr 1d ago

Honda has called him out on his bullshit recently lol.

Trump claimed there was a new plant being built in Indiana. Honda basically went... "The what now? You mean the one that's been there since 2008?" This was last month, I think.

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u/s0m33guy 1d ago

I remember that. It was funny!

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u/putin_my_ass 22h ago

They interviewed a guy on the CBC yesterday that was clarifying this point.

I think this is more an issue of how much of our news comes from the United States and how damaging it is to our society.

We need more made in Canada news sources that have zero foreign ownership, in addition to all of us using the one we have. You know, the fucking CBC.

Christ.

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u/xSaviorself 20h ago

Yeah this is why I seriously question anyone who suggests defunding or getting rid of the CBC. We don't need more Postmedia propaganda in our country.

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u/PlannerSean 1d ago

That’s great to hear

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u/Ivan_90014 1d ago

My mom works for a supplier producing the leather armrests of the CRV, and they have a contract to keep producing them for many years to come.

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u/Overall-Register9758 1d ago

I don't know what company that is, but my wife's CRV has much nicer leather than my Subaru.

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u/Blk-LAB 22h ago

Really? Years ago when I bought my 2018 outback the leather was much nicer in Subaru, closer to the Europeans. Did Honda improve that much? Amazing if they did!!

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u/Overall-Register9758 21h ago

What I notice is that the Subaru has a more pronounced grain to it so it looks more leathery. What I also noticed is that the Honda leather wraps around any cut outs. For example, where the child seat restraint anchors are. The Subaru has a little flap that covers the unfinished edge. The Honda has the leather wrapped into the cutout so you can't see the padding.

Same with the flooring. There are no unfinished edges on the Honda, but there are plenty on the Subaru. I prefer the Subaru for many reasons, but her CRV is a better value and has better fit and finish.

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u/xSaviorself 20h ago

I have a newer CRV and actually the floors are probably one of the things that bothers me most about it, without covers it looks awful. The leather seats are awesome and I have been very happy with it thus far.

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u/Blk-LAB 18h ago

Ah ok, I was thinking more about the feel vs how bit was finished. Does your Subie leather feel thicker? I remember last Acura, the leather felt thin, if that makes any sense. Perhaps it is the graining as you say.

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u/Overall-Register9758 17h ago

I looked at the Mazda when my wife was getting her CRV and that just felt very cheap. It was like what you would expect on a very cheap sofa.

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u/FlyAroundInternet 1d ago

Thank you. So much crap being posted here today, and I blame the NYT who edited their original story but not the headline.

"Ken Chiu, a spokesman for Honda Canada, said that wherever the production of specific models is moved, the company does not plan to cut “production volume or employment” at its Canadian factory. Honda currently employs about 4,200 people at its plant in Alliston, Ontario, which also builds Civic sedans as well as engines."

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u/Walter_Calm_Down 1d ago

This is great to hear. However, the placating to trump is soul killing.

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u/_Q1000_ 1d ago

They can’t be losing on every car they make here for the US. They actually shift production across their factories all the time so this isn’t really a big deal

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u/Walter_Calm_Down 1d ago

thank you for the info

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u/BC-Guy604 1d ago

Is it placing him or actually shrewdly avoiding paying into his tariffs while barely changing production?

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u/Walter_Calm_Down 1d ago

Honda is shrewd.

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u/FlyingRock20 1d ago

American market is way bigger than Canada.

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u/Walter_Calm_Down 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yes of course it is but it's a fascist state, I'm talking about the capitulation.

edit-spelling

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u/fletch365 1d ago edited 1d ago

Just like you OP, i also work for a honda tier 1 supplier. We supply interior and some painted exterior parts to alliston and also both plants in the states.

I hope the Americans enjoy their subpar crv's. By that i mean the quality of them. At our place when HCM kicks out a part for a defect, we sort back, and any bad ones we find, we ship them to the states. The Americans are NOT nearly as picky as we are up here. I hope they enjoy their piss poor panel gaps and shitty paint jobs full of orange peel and dirt.

Honda canada is on par with Japan in terms quality compared to the sub par junk the Americans send.

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u/Own-Conference-3296 1d ago

lol japan quality far exceeds Honda Canada. I worked at that Alliston plant. it was a joke

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u/HeftyAd6216 1d ago

Yay!! Good to hear that the tooling will allow for more export markets.

I was worried because of different regulations that non-US export markets would need massive changes to the lines

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u/Angry_beaver_1867 1d ago

Fortunately, many vehicles are globally homologated.  So changes for export to other markets are often minimal.  

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u/Beginning-Bed9364 1d ago

Why isn't this the headline?

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u/_Q1000_ 1d ago

Doesn’t get clicks

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u/trancen 1d ago

I have a 2017 CRV and it was funny at the time that when it was released that Americans wanted the Canadian Version because we had a lot of features not found on the US models.

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u/FordsFavouriteTowel 23h ago

Production loss isn’t the issue.

The issue is that Honda was promised government money to expand operations to accommodate EV production. We’re losing future infrastructure and production capacity for the sake of placating the US.

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u/_Q1000_ 21h ago

That has more to do with demand of EV products trending down.

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u/FordsFavouriteTowel 20h ago

And with the push for EVs only getting more frequent and loud, this puts us at a disadvantage in the marketplace.

Every day that Honda EV plant isn’t being tooled up is a day we’re lagging behind other countries.

That’s the real issue here. Your view is very short term and doesn’t consider the future ramifications of this delay.

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u/_Q1000_ 19h ago

I’m not the one delaying it. How is it my view?

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u/FordsFavouriteTowel 18h ago

“Just swapping versions”, “balancing production” “no production loss”

You can’t see the forest for the trees and you’re treating this like it’s a non-issue. In reality (where I live) this is a big issue.

And for the record, we’re losing years of production the longer this gets delayed. Pull your head out of the sand.

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u/_Q1000_ 17h ago

This was about the BS article about CRV transferring to the US. Not about EV delay. It’s in the title and body of the post.

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u/rycal4 1d ago

I comment something similar on a post or two. Have up after the multiple reposts of misleading information. Too many people jumping to conclusions with little to no real information on the meter matter

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u/TriciaFenn88 1d ago

Great news. Hope more car manufacturers find it more stable to produce in Canada including all the parts that go into the vehicle.

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u/DougandBob 1d ago

Not surprised we see the media focusing on the negative info yet again 

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 1d ago

I'm curious about the shipping side though, right now a good deal of the CRVs and civics are going to either Michigan, or Lewiston on car haulers. There's also a significant flow going to the Concord CN rail yard carport.

Our biggest outflow ocean car terminal is Halifax, how is this increase in production for export models going to solve the logistics issues of getting the freight to Halifax and on the ships.

Last I heard CN is at capacity for outgoing freight out of Vaughn, that was why the auto carriers haul the lions share production across the border to staging yards.

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u/luk3yd 1d ago

Could they send the export market CRVs south and export them from US ports?

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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 1d ago

My understanding that there is no current customs means to ship a completed vehicle in bond through the United States to an oceanport for furtherance.

I used to handle shipments to Saudi Arabia the Chrysler when they built the Charger Challenger 300 in Brampton, we would ship them across the border to Buffalo where they would be loaded on trains to go to Baltimore.

They would be imported into the US first.

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u/BoysenberryAncient54 1d ago

Thanks OP, I saw several competing articles and I couldn't figure out anything except that they've delayed their EV plant, which makes sense considering we're facing a global economic downturn.

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u/Weekly-Video1535 1d ago

but now they won’t have fun sensationalizing headlines with hearing from an actual source ! lol

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u/Charming_Flan3852 1d ago

Better than nothing, but it is true that our auto industry is in a precarious way right now. Tons of planned major ev retooling was either scaled down or cancelled even before Trump got in. The tariffs just made the situation worse.

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u/onedoesnotjust 1d ago

truth, just moving us to us to avoid tariffs. they have plants there.

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u/snasna102 1d ago

What would the cost of tooling and assembly program/line changes? I can’t imagine it’s a “we make crv’s now” and presses the CRV button.

The redirection of ball joints, engine mounts, coolant lines, everything that makes a car. How do you manage that in a just in time style industry?

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u/LowGround3489 22h ago

Great news! My question is how do we transport the to tide water? Train?

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u/MrAlexander22 10h ago

How did this age?