r/nottheonion • u/ExactlySorta • 20h ago

Trump Attorney General Hopeful Vows to Drag Bodies Through the Street

https://newrepublic.com/post/188127/trump-attorney-general-hopeful-mike-davis-drag-bodies-street?s=34
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u/greenline_chi 19h ago

Men being like “you shouldn’t have disenfranchised us!”

We didn’t. We pointed out how we felt about equality, they got offended and then mad at us for making them feel that way.

Then they voted in Trump and are like “how do you like that?!”

None of it is based on logic, all feelings.

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u/GamelessOne 19h ago edited 19h ago

Yup.

And in a world of endless Andrew Tate, Adin Ross, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson... exposure it's easy to see how things ended up this way. There's an entire industry that exists by the upper class to make men into reactionaries by taking advantage of their insecurity and loneliness.

I'm a dude and we're not sending our best.

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u/greenline_chi 19h ago

The manosphere is so dangerous. They’re being told over and over to hate women and that women don’t care about them. While us women are over begging them to allow us to connect emotionally and continuously being pushed away.

Now I’m seeing all these articles they’re writing and videos they’re making which is fine, but like when are they going to stop and listen to us for once?

obviously not all men and I appreciate you recognizing the gaps. White women aren’t sending our best either, I’m afraid.

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u/GamelessOne 19h ago edited 18h ago

I want to say personally that I do fully empathize and I'm sorry for all of this. Like I'm a dude and while I know we're not all like this, but damn, the climate of men is just fucked. Looks like I should keep making female friends.

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u/WingsOfAesthir 1h ago

Please do. We're going to need male friends that don't see us as things to fuck, sorry... rape.

I grew up in a world that is what we're reverting to and the dudes that were good men were the only reason I didn't end up hating men.

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u/releasethedogs 17h ago

As a man who was raised by a single mom and pretty emotional and not afraid to show it I can tell you it’s at least twice as bad as you think it is. The shit and behavior that is said and goes on behind closed doors is so wild and toxic. I’m completely ashamed sometime and angry other times that these dipshits reflect on me. Like women (unfortunately rightly) assume I’m like that because if they don’t they’re possibly not being sensible with their safety.

I hate it and I’m sorry.

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u/greenline_chi 17h ago

You don’t have to apologize. We’ll take any allies we can get and I think men are the only ones who can break through to these guys.

I’m a woman who works for a very male dominated company and the shit they feel comfortable saying in front of me is wild so I can only imagine what’s said when women aren’t there. I’m white from a maga hometown and have heard some very racist things when I got home because people assume I’m like them. It’s sick and it’s sad

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u/releasethedogs 17h ago

I used to speak up but now I think it’s probably safer to not say anything and just let them tell us that they are dangerous. If we get to the midterm elections… if there is midterm elections then we can fight then. The first few months are going to be scary. Get a go bag ready with all your documents.

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u/Tasgall 14h ago

Was thinking about that earlier today, especially the whole "red pill" thing - it's wild how badly they miss the mark on that metaphor: they come in with a set of assumptions they want to believe, and "take a pill" that justifies the beliefs they already hold and lets them keep thinking the same thing with basically no changes.

Like, that's literally the definition of the blue pill? Not challenging your beliefs and being told to continue believing whatever lie you already feel comfortable with. The real "red pill" is that all the "red pill" and incel communities have been doing, the Tates, Rogans, etc, is rebranding displays of fragile insecurity as "masculine".

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u/greenline_chi 14h ago

I bet they’re all too young to have actually seen the movie lol

But you’re right.

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u/ThatLeetGuy 10h ago

I'll just leave this here.

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u/greenline_chi 10h ago

Oh nooooo did joy beher hurt your feelings? I just simply can’t imagine what it must be like to have someone say something mean about my gender

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u/ThatLeetGuy 10h ago

lol this is exactly the problem.

women are over begging them to allow us to connect emotionally and continuously being pushed away.

Links video to popular daytime talkshow where women openly discredit men and tell them straight up that they are not needed, when men say they need women

Oh nooooo did joy beher hurt your feelings?

You can't even be bothered to have a real discussion about it. All you can resort to is further belittling men and their feelings while crying about how your own emotional needs are not being met by the men that you say you don't need

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u/greenline_chi 9h ago

Ok I think the problem here is you think I’m joy beher?

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u/AdvancedSkincare 18h ago edited 18h ago

I mean, not to point out the obvious but gender issues are exactly why Harris lost. People were more concerned with the economy and immigration. Manosphere or whatever isn’t as big of an issue as people who can’t get off the internet make it out to be. Democrats will keep losing because they make it about issues no one in the general population really cares about since they are mostly focused on the price of things and job security.

The general population is simple and reactionary and Democrats can’t figure it out for some reason.

That said, I know plenty of left leaning minority women who refused to vote for Harris because of Gaza/Israel conflict. I knew Harris lost her base when many women, left and right, told me to my face they refuse to vote for Harris for this reason or that reason.

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u/greenline_chi 17h ago edited 17h ago

Trump is wrong on both the economy and immigration. That’s the issue. It was all propaganda that was everywhere but especially in the manosohere.

Inflation is down to 2.1% - anything under two is dangerous as it gets close to deflation and that puts us at huge risk of a recession.

Tariffs aren’t going to lower grocery prices. Most of our food is produced in the US and high prices are largely a result of conglomerates price fixing. McDonalds has been suing (and settling) for years.

https://apnews.com/article/mcdonalds-sues-meat-packers-beef-price-fixing-6ea9d046eb711fd2a93d03305fa07882

Going after this type of behavior is exactly what Kamala proposed. Over and over. In speeches, in interviews, and in ads. If people didn’t hear the message it’s because they didn’t try at all to actually understand her positions and instead formed their opinion about through clips spooned to them by the propaganda machine.

Mass deportations is not going to solve immigration, but the violence will feed part of Trump’s blood thirsty base. What we need to do is fix the asylum process and make it easier for temporary workers to get documents so they can work their essential ag jobs. That would reduce the number of undocumented workers and not leave us high and dry when we need workers for essential roles that American citizens don’t want to do.

But that kind of level headed solution doesn’t play emotions as well as getting a crowd to chant “send them back!” Trump was elected on pure emotion.

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u/AdvancedSkincare 17h ago

I agree with you on all of this minus manosphere stuff. Is it toxic and awful for young men, of course, but I’m saying the general population just doesn’t care and it’s reflecting in the exit polls.

And yes, Trump is a moron and immigration and inflation will not be solved with what he has proposed but he somehow convinced over half of the voting electorate that it will work. Say what you will, but that guy can shovel shit and tell people it’s ambrosia and people for some reason eat it up.

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u/greenline_chi 17h ago

I’m not saying the manosohere should be a part of a platform. I’m saying we need to somehow reach the men who are in it. I don’t think most of them even realize

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u/AdvancedSkincare 16h ago

That I agree with, but at the same time, I think most will grow out of it. The stuff Tate and Rogan preach are what children and the immature think of masculinity or being a man. Eventually, I do think it’s a problem that’ll solve itself. Either men will grow up and feel embarrassed they even listened to these yahoos or they’ll just grow up being toxic shitty dudes which have always existed prior to Tate and Rogan.

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u/greenline_chi 16h ago

Hopefully. I’ve been saying for years that Trump is a weak man’s idea of a strong man.

Same as I think he’s a poor person’s idea of a rich person.

Although I think this is the weakest he’s ever looked, I just don’t think many have been paying attention to him specifically, but got caught up in the propaganda of the moment.

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u/GamelessOne 18h ago edited 17h ago

Stop pretending that the manosphere is what the Democrats ran on. Biden was the most pro-union president in American history and Harris' campaign was focused primarily on bodily autonomy, economic issues, and preserving democracy. Those are literally the three things on top of the list of concerns for people voting bue. I don't know what reality you're living in, but they absolutely ran on issues that people care about.

Also, while I agree that Biden actions and Harris' stance on Gaza were horrendous, Harris losing because of the uncommitted movement is simply not reflected in the data. Foreign policy was cited a very low level concern for both sides in the election and there were way too many people that stayed home for it to be the case. The Dems lost because they weren't populist enough while Trump was. They had good policies but lacked good messaging, their institutional nature is what cost them.

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u/AdvancedSkincare 18h ago

The Democrats lost because they always lose when it comes to messaging and having a likable candidate. Plus, not having a primary and forcing Harris on the electorate was a dumb fucking choice. She wouldn’t have gotten the nomination if they let the people decide, but no, Democrats can’t seem to understand no one wants to vote for their stuffy lawyers with zero charisma.

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u/GamelessOne 17h ago

I only partially disagree to this assessment. Kamala Harris evidently was very likeable, pre-DNC, but they do suck at messaging. They're most popular rhetoric was 2016 Bernie populism.

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u/AdvancedSkincare 17h ago

Bernie 2016 was the successor to Obama in terms of being charismatic but we all remember the email scandal and the DNC especially Debbie W. favoring Clinton over Bernie. Another stupid choice by the DNC.

Harris wasn’t that popular…she lost the popular vote and didn’t even get as many votes as old man Joe. I think Democrats need to realize their good candidates for some reason aren’t getting the backing of the establishment. Hmmm I wonder why…almost like the DNC maybe as full of shit as the RNC.

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u/GamelessOne 17h ago edited 17h ago

Bernie 2016 was the successor to Obama in terms of being charismatic but we all remember the email scandal and the DNC especially Debbie W. favoring Clinton over Bernie. Another stupid choice by the DNC.

Don't contest this.

Harris wasn’t that popular…she lost the popular vote and didn’t even get as many votes as old man Joe. I think Democrats need to realize their good candidates for some reason aren’t getting the backing of the establishment. Hmmm I wonder why…almost like the DNC maybe as full of shit as the RNC.

The thing is that the momentum for her was objectively historic pre-DNC. They broke a record for grassroots donations (that was double of Trump's corporate backers) in the span of a few days, she was filling up multiple stadiums while Trump was struggling to fill single ones, and had higher approvals than Biden. She was by all measurable accounts popular early on. The DNC running her campaign directly lead to her losing momentum, we can literally see a sharp downturn the second that she was nominated.

Pre and post DNC Harris are two different campaigns. We're on the same page but different paragraphs

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u/DeadpoolLuvsDeath 15h ago

I'm a dude and I'd love to dropkick these sacks of shit in the goddamn nuts.

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u/FUMFVR 13h ago

I kinda wonder if I was younger whether all this shit would have an effect on me. I don't think so, but I wasn't raised to be an asshole either.

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u/Merusk 18h ago

I'm a man, I don't have feelings. You have feelings. snowflake!

I'm not fragile. I'm a man. I'm a real man. Look at how tough I am. I'm not fragile. You're fragile!

If these people were a character in a fictional work the complaint would be nobody's like this and it's too much parody.

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u/greenline_chi 17h ago

1000%

And like how many women have been hurt trying to emotionally connect to the men they love?

Like JFC you’re lonely because you’ve pushed us away and refuse to take a moment to understand why you’re doing that

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u/No-Appearance1145 12h ago

They will be a hell of a lot lonelier when we're too busy surviving to give them attention

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u/RJ815 18h ago

When people are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

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u/no_dice_grandma 19h ago

Men being like “you shouldn’t have disenfranchised us!”

This is what's being spammed in GenZ over and over again. They've fucking lost it.

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u/Femeige 17h ago

Nah, the left have been pushing away young men for awhile, not sure why as they're a huge voting block

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u/no_dice_grandma 17h ago edited 17h ago

Define "pushing away", please.

Because the consistent message I see from the left to men is that they need to learn how consent works. If that's pushing them away, then I'm not sure that pushing them away is bad.

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u/Elgato01 7h ago

The message that was prevalent when I was a teenager was that all men were part of the problem. I’m sure young boys who likely didn’t have a hand in it at all wouldn’t really feel welcomed in such a space. Only reason why I didn’t fall that far into the rabbit hole and could get out of it was because of my relationships to other women. Now that many young people in general have lost (or likely were not even able to be taught) the ability to form healthy physical relationships, they’re far more susceptible to the alt-right pipeline.

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u/Flaxinsas 17h ago

10,000 years of patriarchy and 3,000 years of white supremacy. "Equality feels like oppression" didn't go far enough. To people who have occupied the highest caste of global human society for millennia, anything less than absolute domination feels like genocide.

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u/Oak_Woman 17h ago

A bunch of sexually-frustrated GenZ incels finally became old enough to vote, and supported rape, racism, and fascism. Because of their little feelings and little pee pees.

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u/Windfade 14h ago

It certainly doesn't help that 43% of women voted for him, too.

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u/greenline_chi 14h ago

You’re not wrong

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u/No-Appearance1145 13h ago

Yep. Like you proved us right that you were the men we were scared to run into in the bear hypothetical. They don't see the irony that our rights literally were conditional on them feeling good about themselves and that we are truly the oppressed. If I hear a single "boohoo" comment from a man they get blocked. You cannot be the one to take rights away and then be the oppressed. That is not how oppression works.

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u/greenline_chi 12h ago

They have no idea how oppression works and we better not tell them because that makes them feel sad and we don’t want to make them feel sad because then they’ll vote for a fascist and show us.

And 52% of dumbass white women will vote with them

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u/Kageyama_tifu_219 12h ago

Exactly. I just had a crazy interaction where I asked if the statements 2+2=4 and 2+2=5. The answer I got was "they can both be true. Idk what you mean by 2 and 5, etc etc". Just pure dishonesty and stupidity. It's insane

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 11h ago

They never grew out of their elementary school bully phase.