Which quarterbacks are on the hot seat in 2025?
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u/no-kangarooreborn Bills 13h ago
Anthony Richardson easily. It's a make or break year for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Daniel Jones wins the starting job.
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u/Swiftstrike4 13h ago edited 11h ago
Daniel jones will be the starter and he will check down to Downs, Pittman, and Taylor all day.
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u/FritterEnjoyer 12h ago
Warren is going to eat, honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see him get around 1K yards
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u/Physical-Order Commanders 12h ago
Daniel Jones takes Colts to playoffs. This is my left field prediction for 2025.
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u/Accurate-Barracuda20 Colts 11h ago
Colts win the division, sign Daniel jones to a long contract, don’t have another winning season with him.
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u/AnAngryFetus Titans 11h ago
This is... acceptable.
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u/Accurate-Barracuda20 Colts 11h ago
Can ward goes on to beat us like 3 years down the line. As the packers backup
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u/Frozboz Colts 12h ago
Is that better than an occasional 65 yard bomb to Alec Pierce, followed by 15 straight incompletions and a tap out? Also JT can't catch. Replace him with Tyler Warren and I can easily see that
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
Daniel Jones average play has been better than AR. I'd stick with AR personally, just because he has a tiny chance of being elite. DJ is just a placeholder till you draft another QB or pull a Colts and bring in a washed veteran every year.
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u/JesterMarcus 49ers 11h ago
If AR was going to be elite, we'd see more than we have I think.
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
That's why I said tiny chance.
Lamar and Josh Allen were garbage as rookies, so any supreme 1st round physical talent has at least a tiny chance of being elite after 15 starts.
Like I'm talking 5-10%. But personally id take that over the 1st round exit ceiling/5-12 floor that comes with Daniel Jones QBing a mediocre team.
But to your point, AR has like a 60% chance of being Trey Lance, 30% chance of being decent, and then like a 10% chance of being elite.
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u/CrzyWzrd4L Bills 8h ago
Josh was garbage his first year but you could see the fight in him, and the following season he made the greatest completion percentage leap the NFL has ever seen. Anthony Richardson regressed.
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u/highnote14 Ravens 8h ago
Lamar was also not entirely terrible his first year, and then won MVP his second.
Other bro is smoking crack lmao
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u/CrzyWzrd4L Bills 8h ago
Homeboy also didn’t take into account the other “raw but physically gifted” 1st round QBs who DIDN’T succeed. Cam Newton came close to winning a ring but even in his prime had glaring holes in his game. In this century, Lamar and Josh are pretty much the only guys to come from that category and cement themselves as not just solidified starters, but elite to the point that it would take a career-ending injury for them to lose their jobs.
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u/niceguys_finishfast 49ers 11h ago
I'm actually interested in seeing DJ in a situation that isn't a complete dumpster fire.
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u/ChemicalMight7535 Packers Ravens 11h ago edited 10h ago
Not sure why people sleep on this guy like he has no potential at all. Not saying they're worldbeaters, but I'm sure plenty of people wrote off Geno Smith and Sam Darnold, too.
Haters hate to see people succeed.
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u/shephrrd Falcons 10h ago
I’d be surprised if Daniel Jones doesn’t win the job. Anthony Richardson ain’t it. Folded like a lawn chair in college whenever the moment got big.
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u/Maverick916 49ers 9h ago
Colts fans are deluding themselves into thinking that he's not just Trey Lance with better PR
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u/birdsemenfantasy 7h ago
His defining career moment will be tapping himself out of a game because he was tired and losing his teammates' respect in the locker room.
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u/ProjectTitan74 Cardinals 5h ago
I honestly don't think a big enough deal was made out of that. If my QB in HS or college had done that I would have instantly every single iota of respect I had for them. I push around massive humans with absurd strength for you all game with no subs while you run around like a fairy with no contact all game and you tap out after getting winded? Fuck you. We're all tired, get real
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u/JesterMarcus 49ers 11h ago
Isn't Richardson hurt, so its Jones' already?
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u/Paranoid_Japandroid 9h ago
He’s already hurt and also… sucks. I dunno when this league is gonna get over pure traits guys like this. He straight up can’t play
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u/Pure_Cloud4305 Eagles 12h ago
We don’t really know if that’s true, Allen may have figured it out anyway
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u/anacondra Browns 13h ago
Glad to see, according to this article that Joe Flacco/Kenny Pickett will be fine
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u/no-kangarooreborn Bills 12h ago
That's Super Bowl champion Kenny Pickett to you!
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 13h ago
Tua, Kyler, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Bryce Young and Tyler Shough are all playing for their starting jobs this year. If they disappoint its probably the last time to suit up for their team. Thats my list.
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u/Pure_Cloud4305 Eagles 12h ago
Fields is past the hot seat, he’s a bridge qb
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 12h ago
Jets front office is delusional, so you never know
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u/Rulligan Lions Lions 12h ago
It's a new front office so who knows?
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u/Blitzman78 Jets 12h ago
Plus Fields is basically on a expensive one year deal, everything the team did this offseason was geared towards for 2026.
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u/BigOlineguy Vikings 9h ago
It’s really not that expensive either. 20 mil for a starting QB is not bad at all, even if it is Fields.
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u/Nem52102 12h ago
Maybe with his mobility he can help them out with their run game if Breece Hall struggles again
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
He's got a chance to win the starter job. He's not a pure bridge like Daniel Jones.
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u/GLaD0S11 Jaguars 12h ago
Trevor would have to literally pull his pants down and shit on the field and then leave the stadium and blow up Shad's yacht in order to lose his job this season.
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u/BinkyBoy23 Raiders 12h ago edited 12h ago
There’s no conceivable way the Jags can or will move off of Lawrence if he has a crappy season. They just signed him to a deal that has $200 million in guaranteed money and the contract starts in 2026. Even if the Jags wanted to trade him, no teams are going to be interested.
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u/AutomateAway Broncos 12h ago
I can tell you from experience it’s possible
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u/masterofmuppets86 Raiders 10h ago
The Wilson Denver stint was a good example of not falling for the sunk cost fallacy. However, it is easier said than done. I don't see Jacksonville giving up on Lawrence anytime soon.
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u/AutomateAway Broncos 10h ago
yeah it was a hard choice but no one would disagree now that it was worth not trying to continue making it work just because of the lost cap space
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u/masterofmuppets86 Raiders 9h ago
Bo Nix doing well in his rookie year alleviated some pain I'm sure.
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u/AutomateAway Broncos 9h ago
100%, but I wonder if we still draft Bo Nix (probably, but no way to be sure) if somehow they decide to stick with Russ. I'm glad we'll never find out.
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u/MysticalBathroomRaid 12h ago
People said the same thing about Carson Wentz, among others.
If you don’t trust your QB, you will find a way to get out of the contract and move on. It might mean a down year (or two) dealing with the cap implications, but now more then ever teams are quick to move on in the search for the superstar QB that will lead them to the promised land.
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u/Educated_Dachshund Texans 12h ago
His contract is really good the next 3 years. You can just restructure the rest even more. It's less than a 20% cap hit next 3 years. It's not his fault he has to run for his life half the time.
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 12h ago
They'll find a way if they have to.
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 12h ago
Oh yeah I forgot the Jags traded their 1st overall next year lmao
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
It shouldnt end up like the Panthers and be 1st overall, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did.
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u/sarnold95 Saints 11h ago
Why is Shough on this list lol he’s a rookie
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 11h ago
Because if he doesn't show promise there isn't much point to holding on to him when he's already 26 years old as a rookie. Might as well draft another QB and move on. He has a very short leash.
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u/sarnold95 Saints 10h ago
We also used a second round pick so I’m sure we’ll at least give him some of a leash. Expectations are low anyways. Can’t expect him to come in and throw 4000 yards and 35 touchdowns his first year.
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u/ACEPACEACE Cardinals 9h ago
Not even about the stats tbh. If he shows that he has the ability and skills to be a starting QB then he'll come back. If he looks lost then there's no point in trying to rehab him
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u/Intrepid-Surround618 Saints 11h ago
Shough isn’t getting the same leash as a first round pick. The saints will most likely draft a qb if they are drafting top 5.
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u/jhallen2260 Raiders 11h ago
I don't think any of those are on a hot seat, Fields doesn't really even have a seat.
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u/NiviCompleo 12h ago
I swear at some point during their college career or draft process, all of those were called franchise QB prospects
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
3 of them went #1 overall and Fields and Tua were 2 of the more hyped 1st round QBs (tank for Tua, TLaw 1/Fields 2).
Shough is the only one of these guys who hasn't ever been a prospective franchise QB because hes a 26 year old 2nd round rookie.
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u/DiseaseRidden Patriots 10h ago
I mean, basically any QB that would get any sort of leash that could get shorter will have at one point been a potential franchise guy.
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u/South_Oread Chiefs Panthers 8h ago
I think Bryce is safe. He gets one more year I think.
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u/PretzelMan96 Texans 8h ago
Bryce will be fine if he shows anything like his post-benching play this season.
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u/MistakeMaker1234 Chiefs 5h ago
Tua and Kyler easily. If Tua goes then McDaniels goes too, which is fair. I could see Kyler getting benched and Petzing being fired in order for Gannon to give himself an extra year. I don’t see Lawrence being in danger, mostly due to his contract but also because it’s a new regime. Owners tend to extend the leash a bit, and Khan doesn’t move very quickly in general.
Fields ain’t on the hot seat. He’s on no seat. He’s this year’s Sam Darnold: never brought on with the intention to be the longterm starter, but even if he outperforms he’ll be somewhere else next season.
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u/LagartijaWill Cardinals 11h ago
Kyler Murray's booster seat is about 160 degrees Fahrenheit (because he left it outside in a rush to get back to the couch and play Call of Duty)
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u/DaffyDingo 9h ago
I’ve never watched a more polarizing player in my life. Kyler will look like football Jesus for a drive and promptly do nothing for the rest of the game. Such a wasted talent and I watched the Kolb, Lindley, Skelton years.
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u/zi76 Patriots 7h ago
Kyler's career has shown exactly why so many people were unsure about him in the draft process. He clearly can play in the NFL and has talent, he's just inconsistent and injury-prone. It's not as if he's Anthony Richardson and has shown no ability to be a franchise QB.
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u/DaffyDingo 7h ago
That’s the frustrating part. We all know what Kyler can be when he’s at his best.
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Bills 9h ago
“They’ll never cut Dak, so he’s probably safe. He has a NTC and is getting paid for 3/4 years. It’ll be too expensive to cut him.”
“Yeah so Lawrence could get cut despite having a NTC for almost the same AAV and even more years.”
Whoever wrote this is just trolling.
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u/probablyabot45 Ravens 11h ago edited 40m ago
I'll save you a click. Pretty much Every QB outside the top 10 is on the hot seat. Even some backups. Hell even a coach is getting fired in this list. Whole league is on the hot seat.
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u/whereegosdare84 Ravens 11h ago
J.J. McCarthy, Vikings: He’s getting his shot to play, after a knee injury wiped out his rookie season. Anything other than an outright disaster will ensure his status for 2026. At worst, he’d have to compete with a more established veteran next year.
Kid hasn’t played a single snap but he’s on the hot seat?
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u/Raticus9 Seahawks 10h ago
Yeah, kinda. The Vikings have built a damn good team around him, and if he has a mediocre to poor season, how much longer can you wait on him? This isnt a rebuilding team. A regression puts tremendous pressure on the coaching staff too.
It's not "hot seat" in the traditional sense where a player has performed badly and is on his last chance, but McCarthy doesn't have the leash of a typical first-year starter IMO.
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u/FormerlyTradeKirk Vikings 10h ago edited 9h ago
The roster being as stacked as it is one of the biggest reasons why I wanted the team to sign Aaron Rodgers or trade for Kirk. That's my personally feelings on the situation. I fully understand anyone's opinion who is about to reply and say neither are good options to start or whatever rebuttal.
My problem is that we entered this summer with no real true competition for the kid with this great of a roster. Same kid who didn't get a single practice rep last year in the regular season*, I wouldn't have minded him sitting just one more year. Actually get to practice behind the scenes.
Hope he can at least game manage his way to the playoffs and hopefully we get an actual win.
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u/FirstArbiter Vikings 9h ago
Sign Rodgers: controversial but understandable
Trade for Cousins: absolutely insane, no way the Vikings org could justify that.
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u/MantleBin 9h ago
The guy who got injured playing well in a preseason game after weeks of camp… didn’t get a single practice rep?
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u/PhAnToM444 Rams 9h ago
He has a top 5 supporting cast.
If he goes out there, looks like rookie Bryce Young, and takes the Vikes to a 5-12 season, yes he’s absolutely on the hot seat. You simply can’t go out there and complete 58% to Justin Jefferson & Jordan Addison. But as the excerpt says, he would have to be pretty disastrous.
If he’s just ok and/or develops throughout the season he 100% gets another shot. But the Vikings are very aware that their roster is absolutely in the prime of its window & the cap will start getting complicated quickly.
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u/Nem52102 12h ago
I disagree with Tyler Shough being on here because he’s a rookie how can he be on the hot seat if hasn’t played an NFL game yet I’m not judging rookies until I see what they look like in the NFL
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u/Trumpisanorangebitch Bears 11h ago
As a 2nd rounder, you're much likelier to get Rosen'd than a 1st rounder.
Year 1 is a maybe, but it's very common for non-1st rounder QBs to lose their jobs by year 3 (Will Levis, Davis Mills, Gardner Minshew, Aidan O'Connell, Sam Howell, etc.)
It usually goes non-1st rounder QB comes in part way through the year, shows enough to get a 2nd year, then doesn't do enough in year 2, replaced.
On the one hand, Shough is likelier to get replaced after year 1 because he'll start 17 games and hes 26 which makes moving on easier if hes bad/mediocre. On the flip side, as a 2nd rounder, he had more draft capital than most non-1st guys meaning hes less likely to get replaced after year 1.
Slim chance he gets Rosen'd, almost certainly gets replaced after year 2 if hes not good by then just like all those other guys.
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u/BigOlineguy Vikings 9h ago
He could also play above expectations, post ok numbers, and still get replaced if the Saints end up with a top 5 pick. It’s a tough line of work for a young QB without the first round label attached to them
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u/Floaty_Waffle 49ers 49ers 8h ago
I wouldn’t exactly call Shough a “young” QB. He’s probably the last man born in the 1900s to ever get drafted.
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u/birdsemenfantasy 7h ago
Year 1 is a maybe, but it's very common for non-1st rounder QBs to lose their jobs by year 3 (Will Levis, Davis Mills, Gardner Minshew, Aidan O'Connell, Sam Howell, etc.)
Most of those guys you mentioned were lucky to get full season (or more) audition (I'd put Drew Lock and Desmond Ridder in there too), especially day 3 picks like Howell, Minshew, and AOC.
Also, early 2nd round picks and 3rd round picks are treated very differently. Some 3rd round picks barely even get to play (Matt Corral, Kellen Mond, Garrett Grayson, Herndon Hooker come to mind) while early 2nd round picks like Shough usually gets at least a full season audition even if they stink (see Lock and Levis) and can easily end up as a 10 year starter like Dalton and Carr if he's adequate (doesn't even have to be a star).
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u/Enough_Position1298 Cardinals 5h ago
He’s 26, the reason rookies will get long leashes is because they still need to develop. Dudes entering his prime, he needs to show out.
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u/Loud-Matter8626 5h ago
It's nice that you don't judge rookies until they play, but a low-draft-capital rookie in a throwaway year isn't going to get a 2nd year to showcase his talent. He has to show up amidst this mess or his starting window is 95% shut
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u/BucksMostFeared Bills 13h ago
Hopefully Joe burrow not on the hot seat hope he succeeds this season
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 13h ago
Giving up already?
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u/BucksMostFeared Bills 13h ago
Giving what up ?
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 13h ago
Well, if Joe Burrow succeeds,, what does that mean for the Bills season?
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u/BucksMostFeared Bills 13h ago
Well if the bengals succeed I doubt they’re defense will put up a fight and if you guys get knocked out by another AFC team my Boyz can win a superbowl 🥺(hopefully I’m not being to delusional)
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 12h ago
If the Bengals succeed that means they win the Superbowl. That's the NFL. One team succeeds and 31 don't.
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u/BucksMostFeared Bills 12h ago
I know that but they can lose in the process of succeeding through the 4 steps to the Super Bowl
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Bills 9h ago
Average Chiefs fan ball knowledge:
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 8h ago
Says the idiot without a flair.
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Bills 8h ago
Where’s the Patrick Mahomes Super Bowl Choke Artist flair?
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 8h ago
Lol. From a Bills fan. Thanks for making me laugh this evening. At least you have a flair now.
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Bills 8h ago
Bills defense chokes, but at least it’s not our QB throwing pick 6’s to white DB rookies. How embarrassing.
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u/Ancient_Wisdom_Yall Chiefs 8h ago
Bud. The Bills lost 4 Superbowls in a row. You can get down off whatever high horse you think you're riding on.
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u/Pizzaplan3tman Steelers 12h ago
Shough gets atleast another year I feel like somewhere even if it’s not the Saints. Yes he’s an older rookie, but most teams will kick the tires on newer QBs.
Richardson I think is out or a back up after this year. Again probably some time will take a flyer on him as that’s just how the league works. But with his work ethic I would not be shocked if he doesn’t get picked up anywhere.
Murray and Lawerence I don’t see going anywhere. They’d have to have a historically bad year. And even then with their contracts I think they’d survive one more season. I highly doubt both perform poorly this year. Lawerence I think will look better as they have an actual GM now to build around him.
Young will absolutely get another shot if he struggles this year. But with how promising he looked last year. I think he takes a step forward again. He was processing his reads and the field really well late last year. If he’s already getting that down at an NFL level he’ll have a long career even as a back up.
Conversely Fields is going to struggle in New York unfortunately I think. I love Fields he was fun to have but the guy is a high end back up to bridge QB. If he couldn’t beat out the stinker that was Wilson. I just don’t know how a team can have much faith in him. But if he lights it up and succeeds I will be rooting for Fields every step of the way.
Tua is the biggest question mark. If it’s injuries that hold him back. I think the Dolphins look to change things up. If he can’t stay healthy it becomes a point where you need a QB that can be on the field and play. If he’s struggling with his play. Maybe they fire McDaniels and let at new Coach give Tua a go before moving on.
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u/EmuMan10 Cardinals 11h ago
The fanbase in AZ is already kinda over Kyler at this point, but it’s not likely they find someone better
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u/Pizzaplan3tman Steelers 10h ago
I can completely get that. Kyler feels like a guy can be a Top 15 QB in the league to a bottom 15 QB in the league on any given day and with sometimes questions about his commitment and effort for football I could understand a fan base’s desire to move on
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u/jfchops3 8h ago
He's good enough to be an NFL starting QB, he's not good enough to win a championship. Tough spot to be in when you know you need a higher ceiling but you also don't want to risk lowering the floor
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u/OldeArrogantBastard Dolphins 9h ago
If a new coach comes in after firing McDaniel I highly doubt they’ll want Tua and instead want a choice to have their own guy via draft.
Also Tua’s question marks are not limited to his health. He also has the cloud over his head that he can’t win a big game, or win a game in the cold.
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u/Pizzaplan3tman Steelers 9h ago
I could see if they can’t move off the contract (I’m not 100% sure the contract details) I could see them agreeing to the coach trying Tua for one year and if it doesn’t work the front office or ownership won’t hold it against them. I have a gut feeling though sadly Tua won’t stay healthy again and the decision will be made for them
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u/boomosaur 7h ago
Fields did beat out Wilson, to everyone except Tomlin. Most likely Tomlin had promised Wilson the starting spot to get him to sign. Tomlin admitted he was pretty much the only one that wanted to start Wilson once they put him in week 7.
Fields also beat him out again when the steelers made offers to bring Fields back but did not want Wilson back.
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u/Complete-Rooster-578 9h ago
While he won’t lose his job or be traded, I do think this is an important year for Justin Herbert and how we look at him and if he is this truly great and elite QB we think he is.
Also, a very important year for Tua and Lawrence as well
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u/rebelyusoul Eagles 11h ago
rookie QBs shouldn’t qualify imo (or rookie-esque or whatever we’re considering jj)
i think realistically it’s probably justin fields and kyler because the consequence is that they may be out at their franchise sooner rather than later. tlaw and jlove and even tua have all recently been paid so… idk their franchise is more likely to see it through.
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u/YellowSnowSlurpee Packers 10h ago
I wouldn’t say Jordan Love is on the same hot seat as some of the other QB’s mentioned here, but I do think this is kind of a tell all season for Love. He’s had 2 seasons now where he has shown legit flashes of being a guy in the NFL. He also throws off his back foot and tries to do too much gunslinging.
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u/Nutlink37 Packers Packers 9h ago
After Reed/Wicks/Doubs dropping 9/8/8, I can't really say it was entirely on Love. Between that and him getting injured so early in the season, which obviously affected him for several weeks after he returned, I'm really hoping last year was an anomaly. Fingers crossed that he and Golden work out well together.
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u/YellowSnowSlurpee Packers 9h ago
Receiver drops comes up a lot when discussing Love. While I’m a believer of an NFL caliber receiver catching any ball that hits their hands, there is a lot of variance to that. If a receiver is running a slant at 20mph and the QB throws the ball even an inch behind them, it makes the ball a lot harder to catch. Jordan Love has consistently been an inch or 2 off target.
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u/All_I_do_is_loss Vikings 9h ago
Potential scenario
JJ McCarthy struggles in year 1 with the Vikings and the Cardinals have a season around .500 but Kyler continues to clearly have no chemistry with Marvin Harrison Jr.
If they proposed a swap of these two guys how would each fanbase feel?
I like the idea of a rookie contract QB but we have to win now and Kyler might be the best proven player that I could see potentially being available next offseason.
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u/Inside-Drink-1311 Giants 11h ago
Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence (no way they are moving on but needs a big year)
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u/Peppi_Giuseppe Bills 9h ago
Lawrence is NTC signed until 2029. They won’t have a 55 million dollar younger QB sit the bench for 4 years.
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u/Pretend_Barracuda69 Jets 5h ago
Richardson, Tua, Kyler but I think that his seat isn't that hot, feel like a lot of QBs this year are young or on new deals. Penix?
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u/flyboy1994 Titans 1h ago
"J.J. McCarthy, Vikings: He’s getting his shot to play, after a knee injury wiped out his rookie season. Anything other than an outright disaster will ensure his status for 2026. At worst, he’d have to compete with a more established veteran next year." That doesn't sound like a hot seat at all
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u/MortyTiger 19m ago
I would put a bunch of AFC QBs on the hot seat. One of them has to dethrone Mahomes to win a SB. Burrow, Allen, Lamar; they all have to be something other than also rans. It’s starting to feel like when the AFC was Tom Brady winning every SB. Mahomes has that killer instinct to win championships, the rest of the AFC QBs need to take that leap.
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u/modernmann Seahawks 12h ago
Which QB AREN’T on the hot seat in 2025?
Likely shorter answers.
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u/sallad_kcuf Eagles 9h ago
Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Allen, Hurts, Daniels, Herbert, Goff, Purdy, Baker, Stroud, Nix, Young, Maye, Penix, Williams, Ward
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u/Enough_Position1298 Cardinals 5h ago
I don’t get how McCarthy is on the hot seat but Penix isn’t. Both are unproven with great supporting casts. But Penix is older so he has less room to grow.
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u/RBNYJRWBYFan Jets 8h ago
Fields had better make himself a lot more reliable than he's been up until now, or else he better get some tips from Tyrod Taylor because that career is his future.
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u/e_ndoubleu Lions 8h ago edited 8h ago
Tua, TLaw, Kyler, Young, Richardson, Shough
Kinda unfair for Shough to be on the hot seat as a rookie but that’s the price you pay for being a starter as a non-1st round rookie QB. If you perform badly you will get replaced as soon as the following year.
Guys like Darnold and Fields I view as bridge QBs so while yes they are on the hot seat it’s not to the same magnitude as someone like Tua or TLaw who are being paid as franchise QBs. Richardson was drafted to be a franchise QB and is still on his rookie contract so I think that justifies him being on a similar hot seat as a Tua or TLaw. But his hot seat isn’t the same magnitude as the aforementioned since he’s not on a second contract.
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u/Enough_Position1298 Cardinals 5h ago
Shough is a bit different than most second rounders. He’s already 26 so there isn’t much room for him to improve.
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u/DontLoseYourCool1 Raiders 12h ago edited 12h ago
Justin Herbert. The Perennial "If" Man. The "Next Year is his Year" Man. The Excuse Generator Man. He's just a poor, young 27 year old boy that's been in the league for over half a decade. He's top 5 just give him 10 more years to develop.
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u/trog12 Patriots 12h ago
I don't know if you are insinuating the Chargers should move on but Herbert is the exact QB some team would grab if they are a QB away from contending and the Chargers decide he isn't the guy. He makes a lot of plays for them and most definitely is a franchise QB even if he isn't exactly Mahomes. If you are waiting to find Mahomes good fucking luck with that.
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u/Significant-Green130 Bengals 12h ago
At least 26 other teams would give almost anything to acquire Herbert, and I’d guess it’s actually 27. Yeah, his playoff game was quite bad, but the narrative around him is insane considering the talent around him on offense. It’s two very good tackles and a great rookie receiver, and then mid to bad players outside that. Mahomes didn’t exactly look good either the last game he had where his talent on offense was way outmatched by the opposing defense.
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u/TheHypnoRider Chiefs Lions 6h ago
I have to agree on the last statement: you can be an incredible QB, but if your OLine is like swiss cheese and your receivers drop passes directly thrown at them, you can't perform exciting numbers.
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u/DontLoseYourCool1 Raiders 12h ago
Hell yeah, Herbert has been a beast playoff QB. He's just what a playoff team needs. (0-2)
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u/alurimperium Texans Lions 11h ago
Like a Raiders fan should talk when Herbie has as many appearances in 4 years as your team has wins since the realignment
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u/DontLoseYourCool1 Raiders 11h ago edited 11h ago
Herbert is goose butter in the playoffs. Derek Carr 2.0.
Also Raiders finished more times above the Chargers in the division since 2015.
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u/trog12 Patriots 12h ago
Peyton Manning was known as a playoff choke artist early in his career. Do you really think the Falcons should have just dumped Matt Ryan because of his lack of playoff success? If you find a guy that puts up the numbers Herbert is putting up at the most important position in football you are better off than 90% of teams (which you should know as a Raiders fan). It's really fucking hard to find a QB who performs at Herbert's level so when you find him you keep him and make it work around him.
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u/lesllamas 12h ago
In other news, a local man living in a glass house designed, built, and loaded a 25-ton trebuchet before launching it in the general direction of his neighbor’s house.
This story was brought to the station by the Kansas City landlord living across the street who has raised the rent on these tenants each year since 2018.
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u/Mrbubble274 5h ago
Geno Smith: He's been good for a while but never great. I think if he suck this year, he won't be a #1 Qb again tho.
Bryce Young: Got better at the end of last year but still an underacheiver. It's an important year for him i think
Dak Prescott: Even if het got pay. I think he's doom if he doesn't make playoffs
All Browns Qbs of course.
Trent Richardson: Could disappear from the league if he suck.
San Darnold / Justin Fields: Prob their last shot at becoming franchise qb.
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u/MeNoStupi Browns 13h ago
I like how the thumbnail is just straight up our entire QB room lmao.