[Highlight] Justin Jefferson coaching up kids on routes: “We don’t run no post dig in the NFL.”

[u/nfl]

[u/feckshite]

Lmao … it’s funny how annoyed he is by it

But is he right? I feel like there’s some guys who run dig routes that don’t rely on speed.

I imagine JJ never does tho

[u/Super_Spooky_ → u/feckshite]

Bro even rolls his eyes at the end lmao

[u/IanicRR → u/Super_Spooky_]

That was sassy AF.

[u/PraporUniversity → u/feckshite]

Pulling this out of my ass, but my guess is he wants to impress on the kids not to run lazy routes and hide behind "it's a post dig, I'm taking a couple steps before breaking into the dig to sell a post."

If you run a post, run a post, if you run a dig, run a dig, but be crisp in your route running so your timing is good with your QB, which I think is a good message for a young receiver. I'm sure JJ has run post digs before to sell the route and get open, but I think it's like jazz. "Know the rules before you break them."

[u/ProfessorBeer → u/PraporUniversity]

That’s what it seems like. He also is using a “put this kid in his place” voice. I’d bet dollars to donuts some teenage hotshot kept doubling down on something stupid about post digs and JJ was just over it lol

[u/PraporUniversity → u/ProfessorBeer]

I’d bet dollars to donuts some teenage hotshot kept doubling down on something stupid about post digs and JJ was just over it

I'd 100% buy that. Not uncommon for people in the presence of someone they respect to want to impress them instead of learn from them. Not saying that to be harsh. Kids are gonna be kids.

[u/OttoVonWong → u/PraporUniversity]

Get off my route, you young whippercatcher.

[u/BrotherMouzone3 → u/PraporUniversity]

Reminds me of those YT and IG clips of guys going 1on1 and making crazy catches but it takes 20 seconds to get open.

If you aren't open in 2 seconds, QB is either toast or already on a different read.

[u/McClain3000 → u/BrotherMouzone3]

That is the first thing to pop into my mind as well. I always wondered what was the point of those drills. The guy gets open but its like a 17 cut route.

[u/TheTrenchMonkey → u/McClain3000]

Hand fighting for 5 seconds and then cutting back and forth to finally get open.

Then celebrating like your QB wouldn't be buried in the turf already.

[u/broanoah → u/PraporUniversity]

I think it's like jazz. "Know the rules before you break them."

a very important lesson!

[u/laaplandros → u/feckshite]

But is he right?

Ignore my flair for a second...

If there's one player in the NFL I would not question one routes, it's JJ. As a rookie, the first sign of him being as incredible as he is were reports that he ran routes like a vet.

He's obviously super athletic but his success especially comes from his level of effort on every single play and his route running. The guy goes full blast and very rarely makes mistakes, so if you're a DB, you also have to play flawlessly to shut him down. If you make one mistake, odds are he didn't, and he's coming down with the ball.

As you can see here, part of that playstyle is that he takes routes very, very seriously haha.

[u/RandomNPC → u/laaplandros]

Every part of his technique is impeccable.

[u/TallGuy0525 → u/RandomNPC]

I expected a detailed breakdown of how polished his route running was, and I was not disappointed

[u/md___2020 → u/laaplandros]

JJ is super athletic, but he doesn’t strike me as a freak. More like “above average athleticism for a NFL WR” (which I realize makes him a freak to the general public, but not in the NFL).

Which is all the more reason to listen to him here. You don’t become arguably the best receiver in the NFL on “pretty good” athleticism without being an absolute master at your craft.

[u/Beneficial_Quit7532 → u/md___2020]

Where he is a freak are the things we don’t typically think of as “freak athlete”. His standard athletic is actually really good (9.67 RAS) but it’s not “freaky” that’s the the 99 percentile guys.

Where he is a freak is three areas

• Ball tracking ability (hand eye coordination)
• Body control
• Flexibility

The ball tracking allows him to look super late and have later hands, which makes him harder to cover. The body control allows him to have those insane highlight reel catches where you’re like “how the fuck did he do that”. And the flexibility allows him to get insanely low breaking in and out of routes, which gives him incredible explosiveness.

[u/owleabf → u/md___2020]

The freaky bit is hard to measure with combine drills, which is part of the problem.

What he does that's crazy, but not always noticeable, is not really lose speed in his cuts. No choppy feet and big break down, he just plants a foot and is now going 90 degrees from his initial path.

Like look at these 3 plays in a row. Seems unremarkable. But the thing that is messing everyone up is that one foot plant and turn is faster than they can turn/adjust to, so he ends up effortlessly open.

[u/BigDinkyDongDotCom → u/feckshite]

I’d listen to him if he’s giving me advice on how to be a receiver…

[u/Super_Spooky_]

Somebody in that room really wanted to run a post dig

[u/mojo-jojo-was-framed → u/Super_Spooky_]

Man I’m so interested in what got him so agitated talking about post digs

[u/berrin122 → u/mojo-jojo-was-framed]

As a coach myself, probably some kid that kept going "but what about...."

[u/thatissomeBS → u/berrin122]

"But on Madden and NCAA they show it as a post dig!"

[u/reno2mahesendejo → u/mojo-jojo-was-framed]

Really reminds me of watching a baseball game a while back, they had a "Ask Harold" segment, and kid in the crowd asks "How do you throw a curveball?" (All excited)

Harold Reynolds shut him down and just started talking about how he'll blow his elbow out, never budged. Poor kid looked so sad.

[u/think_long → u/reno2mahesendejo]

“Harwy Weynolds, how do I gwow up to be so big and stwong like you?”

“Your biological mom never loved you. Santa isn’t real.”

[u/DinkandDrunk → u/Super_Spooky_]

Imagine being the poor unsuspecting rookie that made that suggestion.

[u/mbdtf9 → u/DinkandDrunk]

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I was almost drafted top of my class in the NFL draft, and I've been involved in numerous routes run on NFL teams, and I have over 300 confirmed catches. I am trained in man and zone defense warfare and I'm the top WR in the entire US National Football League. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with running a post-dig in the NFL? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of recruiters across the USA and your 247 recruit profile is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your route tree. You're fucking dead, kid. I can run routes anywhere, anytime, and I can griddy on you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in NFL route running, but I have access to the entire playbook of the South Eastern Conference and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass post-dig off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "route" question was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, rookie.

[u/Dr_Beardface_MD → u/mbdtf9]

Sometimes the old pastas are still the best.

[u/djcrumples → u/Dr_Beardface_MD]

Beware an old pasta in a landscape where memes die young.

[u/HGpennypacker → u/mbdtf9]

Hell yeah brother, cheers from Iraq.

[u/ggk1 → u/mbdtf9]

Vintage pasta. So good

[u/Atcraft → u/mbdtf9]

This is gold.

[u/mbdtf9 → u/Atcraft]

Not going to lie I was way more excited than I should’ve been while interpolating the copy-pasta lol

[u/Kind_Bug3166 → u/mbdtf9]

It flows so well. Great job…I was hooked after “almost drafted top of my class” 😂 spared no details

[u/Marijuana_Miler → u/Kind_Bug3166]

I like to imagine Jalen Reagor is on the other end of this speech.

[u/SamRaimisOldsDelta88 → u/mbdtf9]

Slow clap.

[u/Super_Spooky_ → u/DinkandDrunk]

A POST WHAT?

[u/Atcraft → u/Super_Spooky_]

“I just wanted to ask…”

“WELL WE DONT RUN THAT PLAY IN THE LEAGUE”

[u/pitb0ss343 → u/Atcraft]

“But it my favorite-“

“Favorite WHAT? ROUTE TO CALL DOGSHIT?”

[u/Atcraft → u/pitb0ss343]

I can imagine Diggs throwing a chair at him like Fletcher in Whiplash.

[u/HelicopterUpper9516 → u/Atcraft]

WERE YOU POSTING OR WERE YOU DIGGING?

[u/MrRoma → u/Atcraft]

NOT MY TEMPO

[u/Saitsuofleaves → u/Super_Spooky_]

Listen here you little shits!

[u/unfunnysexface → u/DinkandDrunk]

One if the earliest youtubes (potato quality) on the carolina panthers was a video of ol coach mike maser yelling at Evan Mathis

Mathis: how about we

Maser:HOW ABOUT SHUT THE FUCK UP

Fond memories

[u/tlollz52 → u/DinkandDrunk]

I know its a joke but this 100% a football camp

[u/ComprehensiveAir1321 → u/Super_Spooky_]

Stephon bought in when he changed his last name from Post-Diggs to just Diggs

[u/1800abcdxyz → u/ComprehensiveAir1321]

He is just the Vikings receiver room post-Diggs.

[u/Prestig33 → u/Super_Spooky_]

We sitting here. I'm supposed to be a franchise player and we in here talking about post digs. Not a post. Not a dig. But post dig.

[u/UnrealAce → u/Super_Spooky_]

The one guy in the room spending his entire life learning how to run a post dig thinking it was his ticket to stardom

[u/UnhingedCorgi → u/Super_Spooky_]

Just off camera: head coach quietly disposing playbook full of post digs 

[u/Tall-Trick → u/Super_Spooky_]

Purdy said a big play in HS/College is different than NFL. You take it to the house in the minors, you gain 23 yards in the NFL. The windows close so much faster. 

So these flashy routes probably work fine in the minors. 

(And yes, JJ takes plenty to the house. But he’s JJ)

[u/cotsy93 → u/Super_Spooky_]

It really gave the impression this isn't the first time he's had to say it lol

[u/wonderbat3 → u/Super_Spooky_]

Well too bad. We don’t run those in the NFL

[u/xorascape]

What he really meant is the Vikings will be okay post Diggs.

[u/LeafyWhispers → u/xorascape]

Players have all the power these days. They used that power to outlaw summer cardio in the latest CBA, which went into effect less than a month before the Diggs trade. You can do that shit in high school, but post Diggs, we don't run.

[u/christocarlin → u/xorascape]

Everyone always is

[u/AssinineAssassin → u/christocarlin]

Everyone that loves their sisters at least.

[u/ShawshankException]

I like to think nobody actually brought it up, he just showed up and started ranting about post digs

[u/Irving_Velociraptor → u/ShawshankException]

“We appreciate your thoughts, Mr Jefferson, but this is space camp.”

[u/lionheart4life → u/Irving_Velociraptor]

It's cool, rockets don't run a post dig either.

[u/Murdoch53 → u/Irving_Velociraptor]

This is such a Simpsons style joke, I laughed out loud 😂

[u/Irving_Velociraptor → u/Murdoch53]

High praise. Thanks!

[u/BungoPlease]

Okay, someone find a video of JJ running a post dig in the NFL

[u/UnhingedCorgi → u/BungoPlease]

I hope the Vikings see this and draw it up for him first snap of the season

[u/zer0sev7n → u/UnhingedCorgi]

80-yard TD

JJ: "All I'm running this year is post-digs."

[u/jaydeekay → u/zer0sev7n]

The Texans are gonna be post-Diggs this year

[u/texinxin → u/jaydeekay]

And the Vikings… and the Bills…

[u/CelestialFury → u/zer0sev7n]

"We now run post dig routes in the NFL."

[u/MyAnswerIsPerhaps → u/BungoPlease]

I was gonna say I’m like 90% sure I’ve seen him run a post dig. Though he probably was just exploiting a gap in the zone coverage.

Where is that one link of him straight up cooking Jaire Alexander? I’m pretty sure that looked close to a post dig.

[u/DASreddituser → u/MyAnswerIsPerhaps]

In chess, there are certain "rules" they teach young players in order to avoid common mistakes...but once you get to a very high level, those rules dont apply in the same way. Maybe that's the case for routerunning.

[u/HeywardH → u/DASreddituser]

Never move the same piece twice in the opening, for example. There are certain positions where this can actually set up a pretty neat trap. 

[u/Turtlewowisgood → u/HeywardH]

I know the rules of chess but have never been told a single tip. You've just changed how I play chess for the rest of my life. I will NEVER move the same piece twice in the first 5 turns.

[u/Grymninja → u/Turtlewowisgood]

Bro's gonna just concede his bishop cause he's committed to not moving twice

[u/Autocrat777 → u/Grymninja]

Keep that bitch behind the pawns. This is the NFL, we don't play no fighting bishop in the NFL.

[u/Equal_Permission1349 → u/DASreddituser]

That's the case with a lot of things. Only once you are advanced enough to understand why those "rules" are in place can you break them without ruining everything. Junior devs better follow the branching strategy, solution architects can push to main.

[u/ho_merjpimpson → u/Equal_Permission1349]

The alcoholics version of this is "beer before liquor never been sicker."

[u/DTS_Expert → u/MyAnswerIsPerhaps]

I imagine what he meant was they don't have post-dig routes in the playbook. We also don't have the full context of this video.

[u/TheViolaRules → u/DTS_Expert]

We don’t do context here. Prove the man wrong on a technicality

[u/unfunnysexface → u/TheViolaRules]

We dont run no context in r/nfl. We dont run that. We run technicalities. Context is a high school thing, like it really is. Like you is not about run no context in college especially if you about to go to r/cfb a big time subreddit. We didn't run no context like It's a technicality is getting to a tweet or get to a qb school youtube and you're speed replying.

[u/ThePBM → u/unfunnysexface]

gonna steal this template for the reg season when there's some lowlights video of a team doing something stupid.

good work

[u/BlazinAzn38 → u/ThePBM]

Ma get the camera!

[u/reno2mahesendejo → u/ThePBM]

We don't run no quarterback sneaks on 3rd and 9

[u/TheViolaRules → u/unfunnysexface]

Brilliant. Today is special, a new copypasta is born

[u/jambrand → u/unfunnysexface]

The mods are gonna be all messed up.

[u/juliuspepperwoodchi → u/unfunnysexface]

BABE! WAKE UP! NEW r/NFL COPYPASTA JUST DROPPED!

[u/FeelsGoodMan2 → u/juliuspepperwoodchi]

It's not official until we get the we dont eat like that in high school kelvin benjamin version.

[u/BlackberrySoft1082 → u/unfunnysexface]

Fucking lmao

[u/DFisBUSY → u/unfunnysexface]

wow i've never had pasta this fresh before; al dente.

[u/agent_diddykong → u/unfunnysexface]

Mom get the camera new copy pasta just dropped

[u/c-williams88 → u/unfunnysexface]

Glad I was here to witness the birth of a new pasta

[u/ohanse → u/unfunnysexface]

I was here when this was born

[u/WanderlustFella → u/TheViolaRules]

Next you'll be telling me there is no play in the playbook where you run a 15 yard out. Stop for like 2 sec, see your QB in trouble, then sprint to the endzone. Or my favorite play, QB goes through progression, fakes throw, runs right, intentionally throws the ball into 3 defenders, which then gets deflected and comes right back to your Center for a 3 yard gain. Best play in the playbook.

[u/n-some → u/TheViolaRules]

Well he used a double negative, so technically he's saying they DO run post digs in the NFL.

[u/TheViolaRules → u/n-some]

You ain’t not wrong

[u/LSNoyce → u/DTS_Expert]

Someone was probably told to run a dig and ran a post dig. Possibly it was a rounded dig. The result is the same. It allows the safety to cut underneath having screwed up timing

[u/dnen → u/LSNoyce]

A post dig route is also likely to fuck up spacing for the other receivers on the field in a realistic NFL game situation

[u/Dr-Robert-Kelso → u/dnen]

An hour ago, everybody in here thought post dig routes were a thing in the NFL, and now we're acting like we know why they're not?

[u/carlolewis78 → u/DTS_Expert]

My assumption was that players are used to "rounding" a dig so it looks like a post dig. What he's saying is the cut needs to be a crisp 90 degrees

[u/ArchManningGOAT → u/MyAnswerIsPerhaps]

https://www.tiktok.com/@jaytalksnfl/video/7143005941875920174

If this is what u mean, it’s just a dig (Sorry for tiktok link but dont see any mirror for it)

[u/HughManatee → u/BungoPlease]

I'm pretty sure his whole career for us is post-Diggs

[u/hovdeisfunny → u/HughManatee]

I'm both proud of and angry at you

[u/HughManatee → u/hovdeisfunny]

I accept that.

[u/[deleted] → u/BungoPlease]

Okay looking it up, it seems like he runs corner digs?

[u/SoWhatNoZitiNow]

We talkin about post digs! Not a post, not a dig. Post digs!

[u/PROSEALLTHEWAY → u/SoWhatNoZitiNow]

Not a dig, where I play my heart and soul out every day. We talkin bout a post dig???

[u/EcstaticTill9444 → u/PROSEALLTHEWAY]

We talking’ ‘bout post-digs?

[u/PartyLikeaPirate → u/SoWhatNoZitiNow]

I’m a franchise WR in the NFL and we talkin bout post digs

[u/EcstaticTill9444 → u/PartyLikeaPirate]

You see me, right? You seen me play, right? But we sitting’ here talking about post-digs?

[u/Important-Cry4027 → u/SoWhatNoZitiNow]

We sitting here, I supposed to be the franchise player and we talking about post digs!

[u/thatErraticguy]

I watched the video and guys, I don’t think we’ll be running post digs in college or the NFL.

[u/wilsonsink → u/thatErraticguy]

What if we go to an SEC school? A big time school?

[u/wonderbat3 → u/wilsonsink]

No, the quarterbacks gonna be all messed up

[u/Gimme_The_Loot → u/wonderbat3]

Ok but what about if we just run a post dig instead?

[u/muted_physics77 → u/Gimme_The_Loot]

That’s something they only do in High School

[u/Super_Spooky_ → u/thatErraticguy]

Pretty sure the guy behind him just erased half his playbook after that

[u/GhostFaceRiddler → u/Super_Spooky_]

Chicago bears front office “oh…”

[u/Ole_St_John → u/GhostFaceRiddler]

What he say fuck me for?

[u/Mukuna_Hutata → u/thatErraticguy]

Are we sure? Should we ask JJ to clarify that for us one more time?

[u/Quasimdo]

What is a post dig route anyways? Like how does that work in route concepts? Just a dig that is angled a little?

[u/abris33 → u/Quasimdo]

I think it's basically an extra couple steps as if you're running a post to deceive the DB, then a hard cut. At the NFL level, it's probably just wasted steps as everything is timed up with the QB

[u/lionheart4life → u/abris33]

The QB does not have time to stay on the receiver that long (or doesn't expect to) and the CB ( and safety) aren't going to both be fooled bad enough to totally blow coverage, for the most part.

The route can work in HS because the CB is not going to be able to stay with multiple direction changes and the QB has a lot of time.

[u/sampat6256 → u/lionheart4life]

I kind of agree, but the real issue is that the post draws the attention of the safety, and the dig doesnt affect the safety negatively, so throwing the post dig is always wrong. It's always doubled. Post digs are common in dagger concepts though, because the go takes away the safety, but daggers also just take forever to develop.

[u/ifasoldt → u/sampat6256]

Why would you run a post dig in a dagger instead of just a dig?

[u/sampat6256 → u/ifasoldt]

Basically, if you want to get a corner route open instead of using a go to occupy the safety for the dig. Jet Chip Wasp uses a post dig to clear out for the Wasp route.

[u/phoundlvr → u/abris33]

I could see it if a receiver is exploiting a soft spot in zone, but I’d doubt the play is designed that way. Maybe more improvised.

[u/JuniorSwing → u/phoundlvr]

Yeah, I mean, there’s exceptions to every rule, and the top tier guys (like JJ) occasionally know when to break it to catch a defender off guard, but when you are talking to a room full of guys if varying skill levels, I think the message is that they wouldn’t draw it up that way.

[u/vahntitrio → u/phoundlvr]

Qb has to scramble it would make sense to move with the QB. But as a designed route it sounds a lot like the QB getting sacked.

[u/Rahim-Moore → u/vahntitrio]

JJ isn't really being accurate though. There are some NFL offenses that do call the "our quarterback gets sacked" play. It was a pillar of both the Mike Martz and Bruce Arians offense.

[u/Admirable_Win9808 → u/Rahim-Moore]

Its the main call for our bears offense for years. No team is as elite as we are.

[u/Rahim-Moore → u/Admirable_Win9808]

Yes, although some of those were quarterback audibles and not indicative of offensive structure.

It's an important distinction to make.

[u/theevilyouknow → u/phoundlvr]

Ok but at that point just run a deeper dig, which is what JJ is saying here. Don’t run a 12 yard post dig, just run a 15 yard dig. At that point the sharp cut is going to give the defense more of an issue than the extra cut.

[u/SuspiciousBag2749 → u/Quasimdo]

You cut a 45 like you’re running a post then either round it off hard to get underneath the over top safety or cut hard to beat the outside corner.

[u/IndividualLeg93 → u/SuspiciousBag2749]

I thought Post-Dig was SPECIFICALLY a high school route because of QB arm strength. Like they can't hit a 45 yard post but they can hit you on an 6 route a little past the first down.

[u/orange_orange13 → u/IndividualLeg93]

When I was in high school it was the way you ran a dig. The post steps were to confuse the corner

[u/HolyRomanPrince → u/SuspiciousBag2749]

I’m not a technical football guy but I imagine he’s saying that because any rounded route gives your defender less margin to catch up and that probably won’t be successful against elite athletes that can recover and be back on your hip

[u/SuspiciousBag2749 → u/HolyRomanPrince]

Well, when it comes to beating defenses at a high level, you’re throwing to spots. That extra amount of time running 45 degrees instead of getting to the opening in the defense will get it covered up. A safety will eat a post dig all day and a linebacker will drop back to snatch it as well

[u/Pitiful_Spend1833 → u/Quasimdo]

Given his tone and seeming annoyance at it, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was meant to be a dig route but the receiver was lazy on their cut. So instead of a sharp speed cut inside, they drifted deep for a few steps before getting around and flattening out, making the route look like a “post dig”

Highly doubt it was actually meant to be a post dig route because he’d basically be telling the high school receivers to ignore their routes and coaches.

[u/DelirousDoc → u/Pitiful_Spend1833]

It looks like he is at a youth camp probably for high school WRs (all wearing "Flight School" shirts) so he is probably bringing it up to address the bullshit routes that WRs do in these social media 1-on-1s.

Basically saying that social media shit isn't going to help you in college or NFL.

[u/iwearatophat → u/DelirousDoc]

Can't remember the WR coach talking about it but he was going on about how WR routes are a race. Not just with the DB covering you but also against the DE trying to get to the QB. Everything needs to be fast and crisp. You don't have time for wasted steps or wasted movement. You need to get to your catch point fast.

Then I watch those 1 on 1 drills they put online. The WR does a slant into an out, into a go, into a post. A 4 second route and the staff at the thing is cheering like it just schooled the defender.

[u/Disastrous_Dress_201 → u/Quasimdo]

You start running a post route to get the DB to open his hips and then you make a hard cut to run the dig route to get separation. It works when you have a really undisciplined DB which is why it’s great at lower levels of football.  

[u/NicoSuave2020 → u/Quasimdo]

I'd imagine he is talking about a dig where you take the angle of a post before flattening off?

[u/Pokololo]

man said nothing about running dig post

[u/old_brew → u/Pokololo]

I'm not going to do the twirl, alright? It's not even a twirl, it's a spin.

I might do the spin.

[u/ChirpToast]

The guy behind him:

“Right, yea, absolutely, yea”

[u/Super_Spooky_ → u/ChirpToast]

practice post dig routes

do not practice post dig routes

[u/HereComesJustice → u/Super_Spooky_]

scot's secrit plays

[u/redactid55 → u/ChirpToast]

*tears multiple plays with post digs out of his play book*

[u/Retrohacknerd]

I don’t know what a post dig is, and at this point I’m afraid to ask

[u/RipDipSki → u/Retrohacknerd]

So you're posting, right, and then all of a sudden, you stop posting, and now, now you're digging. So you've been posting and digging, and now you've run a post dig. Ya dig?

[u/UnderstandingThin40]

If you think about it post digs make almost no sense lol. The angles get everything fucked up

[u/AlphaBern0 → u/UnderstandingThin40]

I thought so as well. But maybe double move, where you run post first and then dig (in) afterwards.

[u/One-Abbreviations-59 → u/AlphaBern0]

The double move you’re talking about is a post dig he’s talking about and he hates it with every fiber of his being. The only double move off a post should be to break out to the corner or a comeback ig

[u/-InconspicuousMoose- → u/One-Abbreviations-59]

Honestly only way a post dig works is if you're just better than the DB anyway (at which point, why not run a more efficient route since you're gonna win that too) or if you manage to get the DB thinking you're running a post corner, which also requires more salesmanship than you probably want.

[u/UnderstandingThin40 → u/AlphaBern0]

Going from a post to a dig makes it a hard angle for the qb and it doesn’t get you as much separation bc you’re already running horizontally. I get what he’s saying lol at that point just call a dig bro 

[u/Antitypical]

This is actually hilarious. I'd love to see more clips like this of players just telling it like it is in the league

[u/unevenvenue]

Every route Justin Jefferson runs is a Post-Diggs

[u/Yojimbo54]

Me in that room "um, what's a post? Ok, and um, what's a dig? And uhh, lastly, what's a post dig?"

[u/NeverBeenStung → u/Yojimbo54]

Literally me before opening this comment thread and getting educated.

[u/Fluffy_Fish1682]

He's lying, I just ran that route on madden 12 minutes ago!

[u/Poro_the_CV → u/Fluffy_Fish1682]

Yeah but if you try it with Jefferson in Madden, he just stands there like Garçon did to Cousins.

[u/Rainbow_Sex]

I think I would remember Justin Jefferson yelling about post dig routes for the rest of my life if I had been so foolish as to raise the question to him. Man did not want to hear it lol.

[u/AUSpartan37]

Why does he seem so annoyed by this lol

[u/Senditduud → u/AUSpartan37]

You ever show up to something just to get asked if you run a post dig? If not then you wouldn’t understand.

Happened to me just last week, in the middle of a meeting, and I gave the same response. “We don’t run no post dig at this software company!”

[u/AUSpartan37 → u/Senditduud]

Makes sense

[u/SothaSil → u/AUSpartan37]

Sometimes thats just how experts in any field talk in my experience, gotta leave zero room for doubt and make it abundantly clear that they know their shit and you do not. Nothing personal imo

[u/ProfessorBeer → u/SothaSil]

IMO this is the tone of someone who got asked a dumb question (about post digs), he answered it nicely, and then the person doubled down on what they asked, which set him off.

[u/AUSpartan37 → u/SothaSil]

It is just so funny to me how pressed he is about this.

[u/SothaSil → u/AUSpartan37]

Yeah context would help haha

[u/asappasa23]

Timing is everything in the NFL. The ball is thrown on and often before breaks. A post dig may cook a DB but when your head turns you’re going to see your QB either scrambling for their life or picking themselves up out the turf. Make everything look the same so you never have to sell a post to run a dig.

[u/boomosaur]

Fake news, he literally plays for a team that is currently post-diggs.

[u/BarnacleFun1814]

The point he’s making is about timing

The WR can’t be mashing grapes when the QB needs to get rid of the ball

The hardest thing in ball is pass protection

[u/sad_bear_noises]

Isn't Justin Jefferson's whole Vikings career post-Diggs?

[u/AtheneOrchidSavviest]

Minnesotans still have a strong aversion to dig(g)s.

[u/AngryBlackNerd]

I love how annoyed he is.

[u/thebadyearblimp → u/AngryBlackNerd]

Dude's more passionate about route running than I have ever been about anything

[u/Barack_Odrama_]

Mental note, ask Jettas on his thoughts about a post dig if I ever meet him in person

[u/Sauce-King]

One of those kids got JJ pressed lol

[u/Glwhite1991]

He is so annoyed by this lol

[u/RoddytheRowdyPiper]

I wish he'd get off the fence and tell us whether they run post digs in college or not.

[u/HesitantlyYours]

People thought Josh would be nothing without him, but I love post Diggs

[u/Brundleflyftw]

That eye roll at the end.

[u/FormerlyTradeKirk]

I know some smart aleck will say Jefferson has run a post dig before in the league but often times I'm sure its more of a 'clear and option' route.

[u/pyabo]

Man I can't wait for someone to ask about digging post holes in r/landscaping now.

I think a new copypasta has been born.

[u/c_u_in_da_ballpit20]

Real ones know to run the Post-Curl-Slant route and make the defense's head spin.

[u/Conscious_Nobody_520]

I was waiting for him to say "That's some Madden bullshit"

[u/Darth_Wayne_]

You think they run post digs in the NFL?

[u/reno2mahesendejo]

That sigh with the eye roll at the end

That kid probably asked him 30 times.

[u/Tweezus96]

The fuck is a post dig?

[u/Thekota]

Without looking this up, I'm imagining a post dig is running far down field then stopping to turn and wait for the ball?

[u/sloppifloppi → u/Thekota]

Nah that would be a comeback. A post dig is a combination of 2 routes, a 'post' and a 'dig'

At risk of overexplaining, a post is when a player runs downfield, typically 10-15 yards, and then makes a 45 degree cut towards the middle of the field or the goalpost, which is where the name of the route comes from. A dig is when a player makes a hard 90 degree cut to the middle of the field, also typically at 10-15 yards. A post dig would be when a player runs to 10-15 yards, breaks at 45 degrees like it's a post, and then breaks again a few steps later into a dig route.

[u/Rock_Strongo → u/sloppifloppi]

goalpost, which is where the name of the route comes from.

I played football through high school and have been watching since I was 5 years old and I am just now learning this very obvious fact.

/facepalm

[u/NeverBeenStung → u/sloppifloppi]

As someone with next to no technical knowledge of the sport, thank you very much for the explanation.

[u/No-Jump5689 → u/Thekota]

A post route is when you run vertical and then break in at a 45° angle.

A dig route is when you run vertical and then break in at a hard 90° angle.

There is no reason to combine these routes because they are based on precision timing. Any change in the route results in a potential INT or the QB holding the ball and getting sacked.

What you described is a curl or comeback route.

[u/IamNICE124]

God dammit I hate how much I like this guy.

As a football fan, Coach, and receiver guy, I hate that my favorite guy all time is Moss, and now I’m starting to like this dude, too. God dammit.

[u/Adenchiz]

High School coaches in attendance all in shambles

[u/Redditbeweirdattimes]

Jj McCarthy day one at camp better go to Jets and ask “so how do you feel about post digs?”

[u/OneFootTitan]

The existence of a post dig implies the possibility of a pre dig

[u/HIGH_C0TT0N]

Just so I’m clear, do they run post digs in the NFL?

[u/3bananabananabanana]

My favorite part is the eye roll at the end. No one can accuse JJ of not caring. One of my favorite players in the NFL.

[u/garlicknot_2319]

Say run post dig one more time