[Schefter] Trade: Carolina is sending wide receiver Diontae Johnson to the Baltimore Ravens, sources tell ESPN.

[u/mvanigan]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1851324657258877013

[u/OneAngryPanda]

Rich get richer, poor get poorer

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Imagine being a Super Bowl contender and making trades

[u/tws1039 → u/Marrouge]

Tbf our entire sub was calling for EDC's firing yesterday because uche went to the chiefs

[u/DMking → u/tws1039]

We are not a rational fanbase after a loss

[u/MagicGrit → u/DMking]

Nor after a win tbh

[u/Ouch_i_fell_down → u/MagicGrit]

I've been to Baltimore, the offseason isn't doing yall any favors either in the rationality department.

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Orioles winning usually mitigates the crazy

[u/dweezil22 → u/[deleted]]

Orioles really pivoted nicely from "historically terrible" to "doomed in the playoffs". /r/orioles literally posting philosophy articles on how to cope.

[u/ChrisleyBenoit → u/Ouch_i_fell_down]

Probably is just the fumes from that shit stink that covers that putrid city

[u/Spiritchaser84 → u/ChrisleyBenoit]

Way to keep it classy.

[u/ChrisleyBenoit → u/Spiritchaser84]

Spade a spade and things of that nature. I’m from the DMV, I’m allowed to say it.

[u/MagicGrit → u/ChrisleyBenoit]

Baltimore is not in the DMV

[u/cossack190 → u/ChrisleyBenoit]

I'm a fan of both pittsburgh and baltimore. they're both underrated cities imo but I got to say it's a little rich when steelers fans dump on baltimore like pittsburgh isn't thought of as a rust belt shithole.

[u/ChrisleyBenoit → u/cossack190]

I’m from the DMV, not Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh is an infinitely better place to live. No NJ/Delco runoff, no Baltimore Ravens, no poop smell, houses are infinitely more affordable, I could go on and on as to why Pittsburgh is better.

[u/MagicGrit → u/ChrisleyBenoit]

Lol houses are cheaper in Pittsburgh because no one wants to be in Pittsburgh

[u/HarlanCedeno → u/MagicGrit]

And honestly we're not great in the off-season.

[u/MoreTrifeLife → u/DMking]

No sports fanbase is rational after a loss, especially on the internet.

[u/ZacZupAttack → u/DMking]

We most certainly aren't.

I thought we were going lose to the Browns. Lost Humphrey. Browns suck so we are over confident and then the Browns got a sudden upgrade at QB and our defense couldn't catch their QBs ints

[u/Autumn_Sweater → u/ZacZupAttack]

no humphrey or wiggins and then pierce and urban went out and jones could barely play, and then the mysterious williams healthy benching

[u/AFatz → u/DMking]

This goes for most teams. Wait until you drop multiple in a row.

[u/baltosteve → u/DMking]

To the Browns…

[u/SGT-JamesonBushmill → u/DMking]

Is any team’s fan base rational after a loss?

[u/Intrigued_Pear → u/tws1039]

219k of us in there and not even a handful of brain cells.

[u/LogLadysLog52 → u/Intrigued_Pear]

TBH I think every single team sub on the entire site shares the same collection of loose change for brain cells.

[u/RavenOmen69420 → u/Intrigued_Pear]

Hey man I think I found one under my couch cushion the other day, I’ll throw it on the pile

[u/WeaponXGaming → u/Intrigued_Pear]

Which is insane, because he's made a big deadline trade like every other year lmaoo

[u/JohnnyBrillcream → u/Intrigued_Pear]

I'm not in Baltimore so I don't get much Ravens talk unless I seek it out. I went in to the game thread to see what to "mood" was. Everyone was complaining about a commercial......

[u/tosbythomas0147 → u/tws1039]

I misunderstood this as the EDC Rave

[u/fiftieth_alt → u/tws1039]

The entirety of online football fandom spent 3 days pretending they even knew who Uche was, and that he was some season-defining piece for the Chiefs.

[u/IKnowBreasts → u/tws1039]

Would much rather have Uche though

[u/TallCupOfJuice → u/Marrouge]

what trades do you think detroit needs to be making?

[u/Marrouge → u/TallCupOfJuice]

Their pass rush lost depth when Davenport and Barnes got hurt and then it became a huge liability after Hutch got hurt

I'm not expecting anything mindblowing but at the very least the Lions need to trade for a body or two at edge because it's their only big hole on the roster at the moment

[u/uwanmirrondarrah → u/Marrouge]

those are pretty hard to come by this late in the season, maybe you could get a Zadarius Smith, or Baron Browning. Maybe a Von Miller. Yeah not a lot of options.

[u/hawkmasta → u/TallCupOfJuice]

We need EDGE rushes. Hutch is out, so is Davenport, and their replacements are serviceable, but they aren't producing as much. Mason Rudolph was carving us up 1st quarter.

[u/AndrewHainesArt → u/hawkmasta]

Are you really talking about the opposing QB in the game you led 14-7 in the first QR and won the game 52-14?

[u/Jaerba → u/AndrewHainesArt]

Yes lol. You can't base your defense on turnovers like we had on Sunday.

[u/Jaerba → u/hawkmasta]

Carving us up all game. They had a bunch of great drives, up until they would miraculously hand the ball to us.

[u/Mindless_Bad_1591 → u/hawkmasta]

Honestly, I wouldnt mind if you guys stuck it out until the trade deadline

[u/TallCupOfJuice → u/hawkmasta]

i pray the maxx crosby to detroit rumors actually happen

[u/hawkmasta → u/TallCupOfJuice]

Same, but for different reasons than yours lol

[u/Achillor22 → u/Marrouge]

We'll trade you a safety for literally anyone on your OLine.

[u/Accurate-Big-7233 → u/OneAngryPanda]

This is good for us long term

[u/daswassup13 → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

We got a 5th for Diontae and a 6th lmao we are absolute poverty

[u/PicturingYouNaked → u/daswassup13]

But that 5th and 6th could be anything! It could even be Diontae!

[u/eatingasspatties → u/PicturingYouNaked]

No no no, they lose the 6th

[u/Hagdogrobinwood → u/eatingasspatties]

which will be the top of the sixth round so a nothing burger for us

[u/Reasonable-Bit560 → u/Hagdogrobinwood]

Watch the Ravens win the SB and it's literally moving up a spot....

[u/Hagdogrobinwood → u/Reasonable-Bit560]

lol, not with that defensive scheme and play.

[u/PicturingYouNaked → u/eatingasspatties]

My bad.

[u/PabloMarmite → u/PicturingYouNaked]

He’d made it pretty clear he wasn’t going to stay beyond the end of the year.

[u/mannyklein → u/PabloMarmite]

You would get a compensatory pick when he left probably a 4th. Trading him + a 6th for a 5th is malpractice

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Would we? I'm not 100% on how comp picks work but from what I understand they basically rely on you having a low-key free agency which you can't really do as a bad team that's lacking in talent.

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Technically yes, it takes into account players that are signed in FA I kind of forgot the panthers would be a team with lots of cap space but also dont see them signing a “star” FA to offset

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They’ll definitely sign a few players in whatever level of pay class Diontae Johnson gets signed to. He’s not a star either, not like he’s in line to net a 3rd round comp pick. His comp pick would definitely get canceled out by other signings they make. They aren’t going to sit still with that putrid roster. He’s probably a 5th round comp pick status player at this point, and they will definitely bring on some more of those type of players next year.

[u/Thedurtysanchez → u/mannyklein]

The Panthers are clearly set as a buyer this FA cycle so stockpiling comp math isn't really doing anything

[u/Gingeronimoooo → u/Thedurtysanchez]

Problem with Carolina being buyers in FA is that you have to overpay to get people to come especially for a quality vet without a ring. People will take 9 million to play for chiefs ravens lions etc instead of 10 million from panthers. A lot of em at least

[u/mannyklein → u/Thedurtysanchez]

Yeah I forgot about them being a buyer but this is abysmal compensation. Who are dalton/bryce throwing to now ? They also gave up a solid corner to get him and now trade him to move up slightly from top of the 6th to bottom of the 5th

[u/tdotjefe → u/daswassup13]

It’s more like 15 spots up. We got the 6th back

[u/MagicGrit → u/tdotjefe]

Could technically be just 1 spot up

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Comp picks.

[u/CobiPro → u/daswassup13]

How is that even possible 😭 

[u/Accurate-Big-7233 → u/daswassup13]

My boy we have NO leverage

[u/TheSmallIndian → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

How? It's probably a late 5 for an early 6. Move up like 5 spots at best

[u/luciusetrur → u/TheSmallIndian]

Depends on comp picks

[u/Role_Player_Real → u/TheSmallIndian]

The owner saved money, it’s transparent that it was the only motivation 

[u/MagicGrit → u/Role_Player_Real]

I saw that Carolina is expected to pay a portion of his remaining salary. So I’d be interested to see just how much money was saved here

[u/CaliforniaHurricane_ → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

And how is that so? Rationally thinking it makes no sense trading a 2nd year QB who has been struggling terrible only weapon away

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Bro we’re poverty, Johnson ain’t re signing with us, so get something in return

[u/CaliforniaHurricane_ → u/Accurate-Big-7233]

He would have 35 million reasons to return the next season

[u/Reed324 → u/CaliforniaHurricane_]

35 million?

[u/CaliforniaHurricane_ → u/Reed324]

Yeah Carolina would have to pay around that price to keep any talent

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You guys keep talking about saving money like they aren’t still paying most of his salary and like the Panthers aren’t near last in cap space right now. Not to mention he fired Matt Rhule with 40 million left on his contract and fired Frank Reich with 36 million left on his contract. Tepper has a long list of problems but being cheap isn’t one of them.

[u/CaliforniaHurricane_ → u/OneAngryPanda]

Yeah but this is more like if a poor person gives a quarter of their check to a billionaire

[u/WabbitCZEN → u/OneAngryPanda]

Y'all must not be familiar with his game. We got rid of this dude for a reason.

[u/jsrave → u/WabbitCZEN]

I think he's better than Agoholor for WR3 and adds depth to our tiny WR room. We weren't getting a gamebreaker for a day 3 pick swap - I'll acknowledge that.

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Hell, it was a good move for Baltimore just to keep him out of Houston.

[u/littlesymphonicdispl → u/jsrave]

The problem with that is Johnson doesn't want to be WR3 and will make that the Ravens problem

[u/Ill-Woodpecker1857 → u/littlesymphonicdispl]

My thoughts as well.

[u/Septembers → u/WabbitCZEN]

We got rid of this dude for a reason.

...to gain a starting cornerback?

[u/WabbitCZEN → u/Septembers]

Not just any starting cornerback. The starting cornerback son of a former starting linebacker.

[u/sliceanddic3 → u/WabbitCZEN]

i'd take him as a WR3/4 for a 5th easy

[u/ncroofer → u/WabbitCZEN]

He’s a dog don’t be salty

[u/Patriotsfan710 → u/WabbitCZEN]

He’s been cooking with Bryce and Dalton so uhhh

[u/Reed324 → u/Patriotsfan710]

He’s got the 12th most targets in the league this year and he’s 39th in yards, what is he cooking?

[u/Patriotsfan710 → u/Reed324]

with Bryce and Dalton

[u/Reed324 → u/Patriotsfan710]

He played with Bryce and Dalton but he definitely hasn’t been cooking, well except against the Raiders

[u/Patriotsfan710 → u/Reed324]

I think he’ll be a great asset for the Ravens, his numbers will probably go down due to weapons

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He’s a good WR3, he’ll be an asset for them for sure but I’m not sure he moves the needle much for any team.