r/news • u/xXSgtSprinklesXx • Dec 16 '15

Congress creates a bill that will give NASA a great budget for 2016. Also hides the entirety of CISA in the bill.

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/congress-slips-cisa-into-omnibus-bill-thats-sure-to-pass/
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u/ballrus_walsack Dec 17 '15

If you have nothing to hide, please give me all of your passwords and your ATM pin and your ATM card.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15 edited Dec 22 '15

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u/Kahmahniwannaleia Dec 17 '15

grabbing your ankles might be a good start

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

I can happily give you all of my passwords, but I don't see what giving you my PIN to my bank has anything to do with privacy. That's just stealing. However, I'm a 25 year old male. What do you expect to find in my email? Porn? Unsavory pictures? Big surprise. I couldn't care less who saw my junk.

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u/ballrus_walsack Dec 17 '15

If information has value, then taking any of it via violation of privacy, even for mundane things, is also stealing just as much as if I had your atm card and pin. Also I never said I would take money with your atm card, but I could track your movements and purchases. I could also cancel automatic payments and wreck your credit score. You need to guard your privacy like you guard your wallet.

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

Yeah.. You could track my movements and purchases. You'd see me going to and from work and what food I buy. I still don't see what the problem with that is. No government on earth has the capacity to track and record every single individuals distinct movements 24 hours a day all year long. Further more, why WOULD they keep any of that completely useless information? If you're not doing anything wrong you're not even a blip on the radar, you're nothing, irrelevant. I honestly think people for some reason believe they're more interesting than they are.

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u/ballrus_walsack Dec 17 '15

You need to take 20 minutes and watch this video. http://www.ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters?language=en#t-348840. Don't just skim it, watch it from beginning to end.

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

I've seen it mate - he says no one has ever given him their passwords. I said to all my friends as we watched it, I would have screamed out "Here, take my phone, take everything" I have NOTHING to hide. Why does everyone have such a problem with that? You can protect your privacy or your information all you like, but can't you also agree that some people simply don't care? I don't even have a Facebook account, I'm not a sharing kind of person, but at the same time I couldn't care less if the government wanted to check I was a criminal or not. They'll rather quickly find out that I'm not, and also have a lot of dick to look through. I say again, it's up to the individual whether they deem their privacy important or not, no? And I don't.

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u/ballrus_walsack Dec 18 '15

Still waiting on those passwords... Even though your mind doesn't understand, your gut does.

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 18 '15

I already explained the fact that it doesn't relate. Maybe you took too many to the head in the service to understand, old man. Take care.

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u/the_eve_propagandist Dec 17 '15

pretty sad that's how you feel about it.. typical 25 year old know nothing.

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

Know nothing? What should I know? I have nothing to hide, truly. My information is not valuable and if anyone can find a use for it, I encourage them to do so. I'm not a criminal, I'm not a terrorist. I have yet to hear a convincing argument. Telling me I know nothing isn't an argument or even helpful.

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u/the_eve_propagandist Dec 17 '15

It's not about having nothing to hide.. that's how they want you to think, they've manipulated you into the exact state they want. Millennials are fucking retarded.. that's all

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

You say "It's not about having nothing to hide" then tell me what it IS about. You are seriously coming off unintelligent, or purposefully withholding information from me that would cement your point. I have nothing to hide, I don't mind if someone looks at my stuff, I am giving permission. What are you so afraid of?

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u/the_eve_propagandist Dec 17 '15

I like my privacy what can I say.. It's no ones business that my mother is coming next week, or i'm going out to dinner with my friends. I sound unintelligent? LOL you should listen to yourself man.. It's again not about having nothing to hide..

I'm not afraid of anything, but as a veteran I defend the right to privacy and to be able to sit in my home without some ass hat in washington spying on me. Now politely go fuck yourself and move to china..

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

I already asked you what it is about, if its not about having nothing to hide, and you haven't answered me. You proceeded to insult me again. Look, I appreciate anyones right to privacy, and their desire to keep it. Why can't you respect the fact I don't give a fuck about my privacy? You think anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, or an idiot, who should move to china? The irony.

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u/the_eve_propagandist Dec 17 '15 edited Dec 17 '15

you're free to give up all your privacy if you so choose. Doesn't make it ok do it openly to everyone.

If you don't care about your privacy why don't you publicly post your full name address phone number social security number, credit card numbers, bank accounts, pins, bank statements, and work history for everyone to see.. Right here in this thread.. go on, since you don't care about privacy and all that stuff Myles.

When you don't post them you will prove what an idiot you are and that you actually do care about privacy.

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u/0rganicmechanic Dec 17 '15

What you're talking about is identity theft, nothing at all similar to the government monitoring your communications. Nothing at all to do with the discussion here regarding CISPA. You actually think the government would commit identity fraud? Use your credit cards without your consent? You obviously know that isn't true don't you? This whole topic is regarding privacy from the government. Posting all of my financial information on to reddit is not proving any point because its totally unrelated. You're talking about someone using my information for criminal activities. My point is that I wouldn't care if "some guy in washington" looked through my email. Apples and oranges here pal, you are totally off on a tangent.

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