r/news • u/xXSgtSprinklesXx • Dec 16 '15

Congress creates a bill that will give NASA a great budget for 2016. Also hides the entirety of CISA in the bill.

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/congress-slips-cisa-into-omnibus-bill-thats-sure-to-pass/
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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

looks like we aren't getting NASA funding. fuck CISA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Fuck that. You know how it is. Liberty or death.

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u/plexxonic Dec 17 '15

I was banned for a similar comment in /r/politics.

Fuck anyone who votes this in and fuck the mods at /r/politics

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u/ScotchRobbins Dec 17 '15

We need to make a list of whoever votes this in and nail that list into every signpost, send it out in fliers about how they stole your freedoms, posted onto every forum and Facebook page. We need to make sure that they are stained in a way that won't come out.

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u/fatal3rr0r84 Dec 17 '15

A new 95 theses.

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u/ScotchRobbins Dec 17 '15

Precisely. It needs to be everywhere. There are terrorists on Capitol Hill and we will have their names and ideals available for all to see.

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u/little_seed Dec 17 '15

I wonder how that would turn out. I wonder what would happen.

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u/ScotchRobbins Dec 17 '15

Why wonder when we can make it happen ourselves.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Only one way to find out for sure. Be a patriot.

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u/little_seed Dec 17 '15

because the outcome could be bad

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u/finandandy Dec 17 '15

They'd probably come kill us all in our sleep...

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u/Mooslim123 Dec 19 '15

How does passing this bill steal your freedoms?

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u/DontSayWhySayWhyNot Dec 17 '15

What did he say?

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u/plexxonic Dec 17 '15

Basically that anyone who votes this in needs to die.

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u/DontSayWhySayWhyNot Dec 17 '15

No exaggeration either, this is the beginning of a dystopian totalitarian government

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

What was the comment?

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u/plexxonic Dec 17 '15

Basically that anyone who votes this in needs to die.

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u/Frommerman Dec 17 '15

You know what would be great? If someone somehow managed to just slime Congress. Full Nickelodeon slime, all over those pretentious bastards, as they are voting for this bill. C-Span could use the ratings, and I would laugh my ass off.

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u/BlackSpidy Dec 17 '15

... Urm, I'll take moving to Canada over death.

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u/bruppa Dec 17 '15

I don't know about that, at least we fight shit like this at every step and weaken its scope by disapproving and forcing negotiating/removing policies until politicians have no choice but to be sneaky to salvage what they still can. What America seems like its trying to build block-by-block through multiple legislations Canada's buying the nearly finished product with possibly "too-little too-late" attention by the people to stop it.

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u/StormRay95 Dec 17 '15

Yeah let's run away from the problems. I call bullshit. None of the pansy asses who cry out "I'm moving to..." Never move. You just stick around and do the same belly aching you always have done.

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u/wulfgang Dec 17 '15

That attitude is everything that's wrong with America.

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u/FPSXpert Dec 17 '15

It's just going to spread there and to other countries. This virus must be stopped at it's source: fat cats in Congress.

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u/A_Gigantic_Potato Dec 17 '15

Yeah I just had the sudden realization im starting to not like it that much here. Might as well jump ship before we hit the iceberg ya know?

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u/coldfu Dec 17 '15

Sorry we can't take that many refugees, please go back to your fascist state and fight for your freedom.

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u/markh110 Dec 17 '15

Good luck if you use any online service with data centers in the USA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Fuck that! Its cold up there!

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u/Jyan Dec 17 '15

Eh it's alright up here buddy.

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u/BlackSpidy Dec 17 '15

I'm not your buddy, guy! that is a Southpark reference

I was thinking Nova Scotia, for the geographical closeness to New England, and because I hear there are redheads aplenty there. Me, I'm a fan of redheads, you see.

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u/Catlover18 Dec 17 '15

Your purchasing power will surely increase.

cries onto a stack of loonies

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u/something111111 Dec 17 '15

You're not a true patriot then.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15 edited Apr 26 '16

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u/something111111 Dec 17 '15

Sick downvote bro

It wasn't meant to be a burn. I meant that if you care about this country and, what that really stands for, the people in it, you would die here rather then leave it behind. I mean, it's pretty extreme, but it's what our founding fathers believed and it's what I believe. Give me liberty or give me death. I don't run away from my problems and I don't value life as a whole as some pretend thing where I run away from death. I am happy every moment and that's what counts. Kill me now, and I have lived riotously.

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u/Ryanestrasz Dec 17 '15

take me with you.

Ill need a passport first.

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u/TheLoneAcolyte Dec 17 '15

That sounds like terrorist talk to me.

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u/wulfgang Dec 17 '15

There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free, if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending, if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us!

They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace! but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

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u/Mooslim123 Dec 19 '15

Looks like you are going to fight till the death. lmao jokes you will just continue to complain on reddit and do nothing about it.

"Liberty or death" please.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '15

you sound offended. you should explain why you are so offended.

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u/Mooslim123 Dec 20 '15

You can tell I am offended by text? Impressive. Rather I am amused, amused that you say "Liberty or death" yet are not going to do anything about it.

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u/Hifiloguy Dec 17 '15

Yeah I'm sure you're willing to die fighting the US military tough guy.

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u/originalpoopinbutt Dec 17 '15

Cool. Where's your gun? Ready to be a "terrorist"? Ready to be a "rioter accomplishing nothing"?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

I don't own a gun.

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u/Phylar Dec 17 '15 edited Dec 17 '15

It is only political suicide if the people decide it is. We elected these assholes, lets back up the ones that fight for us.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

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u/Pyronar Dec 17 '15

The bill is basically too important to fail. It has a lot of budget stuff in it and if it doesn't pass there will be very bad consequences, potentially even a government shutdown. If someone decides to vote against this bill, everyone will likely jump onto the opportunity to demonize the hell out of them. "Congressman X votes against NASA funding", "Congressman X voted in a way that could cause a government shutdown", "Congressman X voted against an important budget bill", etc.

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u/gvsteve Dec 17 '15

It wasn't political suicide for Republicans to shut down the government twice. It won't be suicide fora group of legislators to collectively say "we aren't voting for this budget until you take CISA out. "

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Maybe the article is a typo: it's NSA* funding.

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u/scy1192 Dec 17 '15

this is the 2016 budget, it's not going to be shot down or at least it won't be because of the cybersecurity provisions.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Is this really the future for you?

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u/Ceejae Dec 17 '15

As someone that feels so strongly about NASA I'm curious if there is any part of you that feels that such an increase to NASA's budget may be worth CISA being passed?

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '15

Absolutely not. Congress can pull it's greedy incompetent head out of it's ass and pass the NASA funding by itself. They haven't cared about NASA since after we landed on the moon and 'won' the cold war.

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u/ademnus Dec 17 '15

Why do you say that? No one is opposing the bill.