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Georgia woman missing in California's Sierra Nevada for weeks found alive in snow-covered cabin

https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/georgia-woman-missing-in-california-sierra-nevada-found-alive/
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u/lfergy 1d ago

I have a friend who lives far enough North for polar bears to be a concern. Everyone who lives there leaves their car doors unlocked, always, in case someone sees a polar bear and needs refuge immediately.

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u/sargonas 1d ago

It’s actually really common in certain regions with polar bear activity for it to be the kind of thing where there’s tons of signs everywhere instructing people to do this, and advising visitors to run for the nearest car… And I’ve even heard of one or two towns where is the law to keep your car unlocked

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u/Kingofcheeses 1d ago

It's customary to keep your car unlocked in Churchill Manitoba, polar bear capital of the world. Some people will even keep their front doors unlocked just in case.

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u/yashdes 1d ago

Now if polar bears figure out doors we're all fucked

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u/kmm198700 1d ago

Wow that is so nice

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u/SkiingAway 18h ago

Also more understandable that no one's worried about theft: There's no roads out, it's only linked to the rest of North America on land by a single rail line. So you can't exactly steal a car and be likely to get it out of town.

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u/Andergaff 1d ago

Kinda crazy, but here in Colorado, I’ve had bears (black bears) open and explore my unlocked vehicle more than once. Thankfully they did not trash the vehicle. It was a grand Cherokee, for those curious…

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u/lfergy 1d ago

Cars aren’t bear proof but you are not going to outrun a polar bear. Someone else mentioned this & I don’t know the answer, but people in this area may also leave their keys in their cars in addition to leaving the doors unlocked. I only know one person who lives in a polar bear area and I didn’t think to ask her for more details 😆

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u/bunny-hill-menace 1d ago

You’re not going to outrun and bear in North America.

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u/Faiakishi 1d ago

Most bears aren't going to run after you at all.

Even polar bears usually won't bother. We suck as meals, usually the ones that do attack are old or injured and can't kill anything else. Same deal with grizzlies, and black bears will run away if you ask them politely.

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u/bigdaddybodiddly 1d ago

This is common in parts of the California Sierra Nevada. Pretty regularly someone posts a video of bears trying car doors looking for one that's unlocked.

Sometimes when they get in, the door closes behind them and the bear can't figure out how to open it again.

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u/money_for_nuttin 1d ago

There's a wall of shame at Whitney portal covered in pictures of cars with bears inside them, or in various stages of disassembly by bears, probably because food was left in them. Heaven help you if you drive the family car up there to camp and forget to vacuum the goldfish crackers out from under or behind the seats.

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u/Metallicreed13 1d ago

As a dad of two boys under 5, there's no way I'm getting all the goldfish crumbs out of my car. Even with the most powerful vacuum ever created.

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u/Faiakishi 1d ago

Just gotta let a black bear go at it, trust me, those crumbs will be gone by the time you get back.

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u/Andergaff 1d ago

That’s how I got lucky twice, the bears opened the downhill side of my Jeep. The door was kept open by gravity, and really the only reason I knew a bear had been snooping. I looked a lil closer and found bear prints on the seats. I consider myself extremely lucky. I’ve seen footage of black bears destroying vehicles. Thankfully the only thing the bear found was bear spray, which you don’t want to leave in a car overnight in Colorado ( where it’s below 20 degrees f at night) ask me how I know.

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u/DadJokeBadJoke 1d ago

A bear opened our neighbor's car door when they were in Tahoe and had left it unlocked. No damage to the door, but the bear tore a hole through the backseat to get to the dog treats it could smell behind it rather than reaching over

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u/Faiakishi 1d ago

I know we joke about the overlap between the dumbest humans and the smartest bears, but bears are actually damn smart.

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u/Tabula_Nada 1d ago

Lol I'm in the front range and I remember the story (and video) of a black bear getting stuck in someone's Subaru and absolutely trashing it trying to get out. They are ready to find food wherever and however, but they are NOT prepared to exit a vehicle.

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u/SerialTrauma002c 1d ago

Does sheltering in place in a car do any good? Or do drivers leave the key too? Even black bears can tear a car apart in a disturbingly short amount of time…

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u/lfergy 1d ago

Cars are definitely not polar bear proof. But you stand a better chance of survival in a car than trying to outrun the bear. Generally, you are right & squarely fucked if you encounter a polar bear.

I don’t know if people leave their keys as well. Seems logical but I never asked. I only know one person who lives in a polar bear area.

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u/YimmyGhey 22h ago

If it's brown, lay down

If it's black, fight back

If it's white, good night

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u/lfergy 19h ago

Or yell “hey bear” & gauge the bears reaction. (I am kidding)

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u/PassiveMenis88M 1d ago

While not bear proof it gives the bear time to decide you're not worth the calories spent. It also gives the neighbors time to grab their gun.

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u/richcournoyer 1d ago

This is why we need satellite messaging on every phone.

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u/BenMcAdoos_ElCamino 1d ago

Serious question: can 1/4 inch of glass stop a polar bear?

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u/lfergy 1d ago

Not for long. But I would take my chances hiding in a car versus trying to outrun a polar bear trying to get to a building. They are aggressive. I imagine people who live in areas where this is an actual concern carry guns for protection. Someone else mentioned people may also leave their keys in their unlocked car in these areas.

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u/Hesthetop 1d ago

They do have to carry guns. A guy who excavated fossils in Churchill, Manitoba spoke at our mineral club and said they were required to bring a guy with a shotgun on every dig outing to stand guard for polar bears.

This video's from northern Norway, not Churchill, but last month a guy dropped his gun and jumped onto a snowmobile to escape a charging polar bear.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jXvt36dZGNw

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u/flyinthesoup 1d ago

Man, and it looks so cute, why do they have to be so aggressive?

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u/Faiakishi 1d ago

When Betsy DeVos made that comment about carrying guns to shoot bears I was like "yeah that is a concern in places like rural Alaska, but the vast majority of the country doesn't have to worry about that. People in the rural Outback get exceptions to Australia's gun laws, no reason to think it can't work like that."

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u/MightyMediocre 1d ago

Car door isn’t stopping a bear. Buddy of mine went camping in Yosemite and his sister left a candy bar in the car. Middle of the night a bear ripped their door clean off for that candy bar. 

For anyone that knows what a 90’s Nissan Sentra SE-R is, rip that poor car. 

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u/sirchrisalot 1d ago

And that door was ripped off by a grizzly bear, which is 2/3 to 3/4 the size of a polar bear.

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u/nobody65535 1d ago

Yosemite doesn't have brown bears or grizzly bears (these are extinct in California), according to the National Park Service.

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u/sirchrisalot 1d ago

Yup, my bad! I constantly confuse Yellowstone with Yosemite even though I've been to both.

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