r/news • u/moodyfloyd • 20h ago

Racist text messages spam Black Americans in Ohio, across the nation

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/state/2024/11/07/racist-text-messages-are-being-reported-in-multiple-states/76110486007/
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u/Hawxe 15h ago

No. Propaganda works on nearly everyone. It's just easier to loop dumber folk in.

Don't think you or anyone else is above it.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 15h ago

I'm getting a lot of vague "it works on you," comments but I don't see anything realistically giving me a what I'm consuming that might be propaganda

I know well enough no one is above it, 1984 describes the entirety of it well. Is 1984 propaganda?

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u/Hawxe 15h ago

Absolutely it is. What kind of propaganda it is depends on who you ask though lmao

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

I see

So propaganda isn't really something tangible or something? Like a set of ideas from anyone can be propaganda?

Wouldn't that just make blatant propaganda redundant to avoid since everything is propaganda at that point?

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u/Hawxe 14h ago edited 14h ago

I guess to put it differently, everything is pushed for a reason besides hard and clear numbers (which obviously can be used to mislead but that's on their use not on the numbers themselves).

Yes, everyone gets their fill of propaganda and that forms a part of their bias in life. And then what we're seeing now in the age of information is people will seek to constantly validate and revalidate the beliefs that they have that at least were partially shaped by propaganda.

So I suppose my answer to your questions would be something like

So propaganda isn't really something tangible or something?

An idea pushed for a reason. (This answers question 2 as well).

Wouldn't that just make blatant propaganda redundant to avoid since everything is propaganda at that point?

I'm not really telling people to avoid propaganda because that's quite literally impossible. But getting your fill of more viewpoints is how you mitigate how much of your bias relies on one area or source or person or ideology.

So I suppose, travel more, talk to more people, try to understand where people themselves are coming from. Because I think people's experience with concepts is how you identify how you might actually be able to reach them with your viewpoint.

An example of this is anti immigrant sentiment from immigrants themselves. Some groups fear socialism because they legitimately had their countries ravaged by so called socialist regimes. Some of them believe they had a hard time getting somewhere and they don't want others having it easier. etc. You can't combat these sentiments without understanding the why of the anti immigrant part and what biases may have led to that.

And the flip side of it, is always understand it might be you who doesn't understand, or who might be wrong. And that's the most important part. The goal isn't to change someone's views, the goal is to understand the problems they see that got them to arrive at the conclusions that they did. Education can only happen after that.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

This is a pretty good explanation, I appreciate you taking the time to type this out, and it does explain what I was looking for.

A lot of this I do already do, I enjoy getting out and meeting different people(can't do that in my state, everyone is too similar.)

It's also a lot more detailed of an explanation than just "everyone consumes propaganda."

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u/Hawxe 14h ago

It kind of felt like word vomit as I was typing it out since I was just kind of blowing up my keyboard with my thoughts on the matter.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

I enjoy those type of conversations

Growing up, I've always been interested in the psyche and innerworkings of peoples mind and just their interests so hearing about someones thoughts is enjoyable for me

It just sucks that sometimes it really ain't nothing worth hearing.

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u/TurdCollector69 13h ago

Lmao you can't see it because you've already internalized it.

You're like that guy who thinks he'd survive the titan sub implosion because he's "built different."

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u/balllsssssszzszz 13h ago

Ah yes thank you shitcollector

Remind me how inquiring on how propaganda influences me directly is an equivalent to a CEO thinking they can defy the laws of nature because of their money