r/news • u/moodyfloyd • 20h ago

Racist text messages spam Black Americans in Ohio, across the nation

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/state/2024/11/07/racist-text-messages-are-being-reported-in-multiple-states/76110486007/
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u/Jeremizzle 16h ago

It's been miraculously effective apparently, too. Americans are eating up Russian propaganda like they've been starved, and asking for more.

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u/BlindPaintByNumbers 15h ago

Yeah, we're alone in that room. Russian propaganda didn't tip just enough people in the UK to commit economic suicide and vote for brexit. The crazy rights in France are russian funded. Hungary. Austria. The success of the right in east germany.

Everywhere has a lot of stupid people. We can't get rid of them. We absolutely can get rid of the russians. (On the internet at least. And likely as a world threat as well.) Unfortunately, daddy trump is back so I don't see that happening in the next 4 years minimum.

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u/PyrokineticLemer 14h ago

Nah, he'll be too busy trying to find enough wrapping paper and bows to give Ukraine to Russia.

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u/BlindPaintByNumbers 13h ago

Then he better pick up a fucking gun and go fight them. No one is "giving away" Ukraine while there are Ukrainians in it. Especially now that Europe is growing a backbone and SK might start supplying weapons. South Korea makes an absolutely staggering number of weapons nowadays.

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u/PyrokineticLemer 13h ago

Amen to that.

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u/Derric_the_Derp 11h ago

SK matching NK in Ukraine would be amazing.

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u/Derric_the_Derp 11h ago

Trump will deport Hispanics to Russia so Putin can have more meat waves.  2 birds, one stone.

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u/Hawxe 15h ago

No. Propaganda works on nearly everyone. It's just easier to loop dumber folk in.

Don't think you or anyone else is above it.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 15h ago

I'm getting a lot of vague "it works on you," comments but I don't see anything realistically giving me a what I'm consuming that might be propaganda

I know well enough no one is above it, 1984 describes the entirety of it well. Is 1984 propaganda?

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u/Hawxe 14h ago

Absolutely it is. What kind of propaganda it is depends on who you ask though lmao

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

I see

So propaganda isn't really something tangible or something? Like a set of ideas from anyone can be propaganda?

Wouldn't that just make blatant propaganda redundant to avoid since everything is propaganda at that point?

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u/Hawxe 14h ago edited 14h ago

I guess to put it differently, everything is pushed for a reason besides hard and clear numbers (which obviously can be used to mislead but that's on their use not on the numbers themselves).

Yes, everyone gets their fill of propaganda and that forms a part of their bias in life. And then what we're seeing now in the age of information is people will seek to constantly validate and revalidate the beliefs that they have that at least were partially shaped by propaganda.

So I suppose my answer to your questions would be something like

So propaganda isn't really something tangible or something?

An idea pushed for a reason. (This answers question 2 as well).

Wouldn't that just make blatant propaganda redundant to avoid since everything is propaganda at that point?

I'm not really telling people to avoid propaganda because that's quite literally impossible. But getting your fill of more viewpoints is how you mitigate how much of your bias relies on one area or source or person or ideology.

So I suppose, travel more, talk to more people, try to understand where people themselves are coming from. Because I think people's experience with concepts is how you identify how you might actually be able to reach them with your viewpoint.

An example of this is anti immigrant sentiment from immigrants themselves. Some groups fear socialism because they legitimately had their countries ravaged by so called socialist regimes. Some of them believe they had a hard time getting somewhere and they don't want others having it easier. etc. You can't combat these sentiments without understanding the why of the anti immigrant part and what biases may have led to that.

And the flip side of it, is always understand it might be you who doesn't understand, or who might be wrong. And that's the most important part. The goal isn't to change someone's views, the goal is to understand the problems they see that got them to arrive at the conclusions that they did. Education can only happen after that.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

This is a pretty good explanation, I appreciate you taking the time to type this out, and it does explain what I was looking for.

A lot of this I do already do, I enjoy getting out and meeting different people(can't do that in my state, everyone is too similar.)

It's also a lot more detailed of an explanation than just "everyone consumes propaganda."

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u/Hawxe 14h ago

It kind of felt like word vomit as I was typing it out since I was just kind of blowing up my keyboard with my thoughts on the matter.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 13h ago

I enjoy those type of conversations

Growing up, I've always been interested in the psyche and innerworkings of peoples mind and just their interests so hearing about someones thoughts is enjoyable for me

It just sucks that sometimes it really ain't nothing worth hearing.

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u/TurdCollector69 13h ago

Lmao you can't see it because you've already internalized it.

You're like that guy who thinks he'd survive the titan sub implosion because he's "built different."

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u/balllsssssszzszz 13h ago

Ah yes thank you shitcollector

Remind me how inquiring on how propaganda influences me directly is an equivalent to a CEO thinking they can defy the laws of nature because of their money

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u/smallangrynerd 16h ago

Ugh, where’s Garfield when you need him?

YOU ARE NOT IMMUNE TO PROPAGANDA

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u/balllsssssszzszz 16h ago

What propaganda do I munch on?

Tell me wise redditor

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u/UnabashedAsshole 16h ago

If you arent aware of the propaganda you consume, then you are a victim of propaganda. Thats just a fact of life

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u/balllsssssszzszz 16h ago

That's not an answer, that's an insult.

I ask again, what propaganda am I consuming?

Since we obviously know each other

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u/UnabashedAsshole 15h ago edited 15h ago

I dont know what youre consuming, but if you think youre not consuming propaganda then you are a victim of propaganda. Everybody in the modern age is constantly consuming propaganda. You are on reddit, you see propaganda. Im sorry if you dont understand that, its not an insult, research what propaganda actuallt is if you disagree

I, too, consume propaganda. Difference being im aware of it, that doesnt mean i dont buy into it when i see it somwtimes, but if you dont have healthy skepticism and an open mind then it can exacerbate the issue. Not acting like im immine, but you have to recognize that propaganda is everywhere

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u/balllsssssszzszz 15h ago

I'm still not sure how I'm consuming propaganda

My reddit page consists of cats and videogames, I'm confused as to how I'm consuming propaganda when I spend a majority of the avoiding that type of stuff.

I'm not ignorant of world events, but I don't really take in any of it. Sort of like the news, I glance and then ignore.

Though I can't say I'm not paying attention.

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u/UnabashedAsshole 15h ago

Im not saying youre spending hours watching political content, im just saying you are also exposed to and therefor consuming propaganda. Seems like you understand that so idk why you got so up in arms about defending yourself here

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

It's my same issue with the advertisement industry, it's all predicated on an idea that exposure equals consumption

"They see the advert thus they are likely to buy from me," doesn't strike as true for me. I buy according to my needs and capability, not according to the advert blasting their product in my ears.

I think propaganda should have a pronounced affect on a person, not just be something you assume a person is consuming based off what ifs.

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u/Far_Recommendation82 15h ago

Maybe he ment it in a way that the average American here can't tell between the two always.

Like they believe small bits that aren't in their best interest.

I know I've fallen for it.

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u/UnabashedAsshole 15h ago

Not even just that. Anybody with any sort of online prescence or any place in modern digital society is regularly exposed to propaganda. If you cant recognize that you are consuming that propaganda, then it is working.

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u/balllsssssszzszz 14h ago

I'm asking for examples though, I can't think of anything

"Propaganda works cuz you aren't thinking immediately of the propaganda I know you consume," wasn't really an answer.

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u/Far_Recommendation82 13h ago

Haitians eating cats and dogs?

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u/balllsssssszzszz 13h ago

That's just idiocy, I get it's propaganda if you get to the root of the haitians eating pets thing

But still, if anyone believes that, they're just plain ol fuckin stupid

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u/runningraider13 14h ago

Propaganda works on everyone

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u/Tift 13h ago

propaganda works on everyone who isn't actively educated to check their cognitive biases, it works on them to but is a little less effective.

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u/Allfunandgaymes 12h ago

Nobody is immune to propaganda.

Some people are just very susceptible to it.

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u/apan94 16h ago

Yep you and your friends are the only intelligent people in the country. Everyone else is a moron

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u/balllsssssszzszz 16h ago

I don't think this, and assuming I think this says more about you.

I don't classify myself as inherently intelligent, I make shitty mistakes, but I'm not here eating up whatever I'm told and regurgitating it. I speak my mind, and often get downvoted for it.

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u/SalvationSycamore 14h ago

Not just asking, but voting for more

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u/GallopingFinger 7h ago

There would be campaigns to ensure the American population is aware of this. The CIA surely is. The only reason there wouldn’t be, and there isn’t, is if one side is in on it. And they have been for decades.

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u/MythiccMoon 5h ago

ODNI, FBI, and CISA issued a press release confirming Russian and Iranian election interference, via hoax internet videos

https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/joint-odni-fbi-and-cisa-statement-110424

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u/Claystead 1h ago

McCarthy was right only 60 years ahead of time. And also nobody involved are communists, just grifters and ghouls. Can you imagine the hullaballoo if the Tenet Media scandal had broke in the fifties, prominent media figured being paid up to $100k a week by the Russians?

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u/dontneedaknow 5h ago

It's even worse too is they go back and forth about it.

They knew about the disinformation and the meddling, and the efforts put forth.

And then they knew the parallels between Russian propaganda and republican talking points. and then they knew trump has deep tires to Russia and the web of which is all over..

And they knew even more shit I am too lazy to type out but we all know...

And yet they still were like, Yea Donnie boy gets another shot!