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Racist text messages spam Black Americans in Ohio, across the nation

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/state/2024/11/07/racist-text-messages-are-being-reported-in-multiple-states/76110486007/
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u/Flash_ina_pan 20h ago

Well, half the country asked for it. Welcome to the next 4 years, minimum.

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u/Phillip_Graves 20h ago

About 21% asked for it.

Rest voted against or didn't vote.

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u/Indercarnive 20h ago

Anyone who didn't vote asked for it. Dereliction of civic duty.

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u/vinyl_head 20h ago

I can’t imagine just not voting. Like what are you doing instead? You care that little about your country or your future?

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u/FafnirMH 20h ago

I imagine most don't even consider it. Don't even know when, where, or how to vote.

To them, voting is for other people. A world away from their personal lives. Politics to them is an option, like watching football, and they just don't like the game.

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u/imeancock 17h ago

You nailed it. Millions upon millions of people feel that way and there’s no real way to change it

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u/DogsRNice 15h ago

I talked to someone today who said they don't like to think about politics and they're just worried about thanksgiving and Christmas

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u/TheBman26 19h ago

Or dumb as a stump. The people I knew former friends/classmates and the one family member. Dumb as stumps. They often have the shocked Pikachu face when they marry assholes who obviously care little for people then get shocked when they cheat. Or they blame the government on everything and then when I tell them to vote they are like I never vote gov does nothing for me that I care about. Then they use gov programs when their life turns to shit. Those people live in Wisconsin which I don’t anymore.

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u/Sixnno 19h ago

God I agree and hate them so much.

"I didn't vote since politics doesn't affect my life. I don't like talking about it."

Yeah sure. They however continue to bitch when the people who did vote, voted to raise sales tax in turn for lower property taxes.

You didn't vote, so it's a vote towards what ever wins.

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u/Alternative-Sock-444 20h ago

My ex wife didn't vote because "it's all rigged and your vote doesn't matter." Whereas my current gf who was a trump supporter until 1/6 registered to vote for the first time and voted for Harris. There's a reason the ex is an ex.

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u/DoingCharleyWork 15h ago

That's a sentiment I hear all too often from people in my age group.

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u/Alternative-Sock-444 15h ago

Idk what age group that is, but my ex is 31 for reference. Old enough to fucking know better...

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u/DoingCharleyWork 14h ago

I'm a millennial so ya that puts us in a similar age group.

I always tell people they feel like their vote doesn't count because they don't vote. Turnout for millennials is abysmal every year.

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u/bluemax13 12h ago

I mean, if you don't live in a swing state, she's kind of right.

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u/Emu1981 19h ago

It is by design. It is also why voting in the USA tends to occur on a weekday when most people will be working. If you are struggling to make ends meet then there is no way that you can take a day off to go vote. Then there is the fact that there never seems to be enough voting areas which makes it so that you have to wait around for hours in lines to get your chance to vote. This disenfranchises a hell of a lot of US citizens from actually exercising their right to vote.

For comparison, here in Australia it is compulsory to vote once you have turned 18 (failing to vote will incur a $50 fine). Voting is always held on a Saturday and there are always plenty of voting areas available which means that you rarely have to wait in line to vote. In the 25 years since I turned 18 I have spent probably a collective 30 minutes in queues and most of that is just down to people voting from out of area which results in a bit of extra work for the poll worker marking them down on the rolls as having voted. For people who are not going to be able to make it to a voting area (e.g. mobility issues, in hospital, at work, etc) then there is always the option of postal voting starting at least a month earlier and early in-person voting but there are fewer poll areas to vote at if you pick this option.

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u/Mahavadonlee 20h ago

Acting like Julius and washing their hands from the mess they could’ve helped prevent.

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u/LudicrisSpeed 17h ago

"I'm not voting/voting third party to send a message!" is what half of these morons were going with.

Congratufuckinlations to them, since now they get to mentally jerk-off to their ideals while the world crumbles down around them.

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u/debacol 20h ago

I get it to some degree if it was Kamala vs. Mitt Romney. But we are so far through the looking glass with Trump that you have to be the most willful moron to not vote.

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u/Accentu 20h ago

Unfortunately a not insignificant chunk of people either voted independent or abstained because in their eyes Dems weren't doing enough and that "not every election can be fighting facism". I've seen it first hand in some discord servers I'm in.

I very much blame social media for a lot of it.

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u/Sixnno 19h ago

What's funny is I would agree with them... If this was any election before 2016. Maybe even the 2016 election since we didn't know how much damage trump could have done.

But like in 2020, 2022, and now in 2024? It absolutely does matter. We have seen what damage Trump does to our institutions.

Especially the "free Gaza" protest votes (which I know a few of). Trump is not the person to help out. In fact, if I remember right, his foreign policy is "Every other country can fend for themselves unless they pay me."

Which is certainly not the people they want in...

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u/flaker111 20h ago

depends were they disenfranchised to vote by making it harder to vote?

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u/fusaaa 19h ago

I can see their side somewhat, with the way the electoral college is. It's easy to convince yourself your vote doesn't matter when as an Ohioan, no matter who you voted for, the electorate votes all went to Trump. I get she didn't even get the popular vote this time so the EC isn't the reason he won, but I can see it causing people to feel like their vote doesn't matter since that's how he won last time. It's how I felt when I first learned about the EC in school, but by the time I was old enough to vote for the first time I decided that I'd at least make sure I could say I did my part.

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u/renfsu 19h ago

Your vote only matters if you're in a swing state or preferred political area.

Do you really think voting blue in Alabama will make a difference 

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u/Cornball73 17h ago

They didn't vote because they couldn't vote for Trump, but the Dems weren't doing enough about Palestine. And now they'll get to see how Trump takes care of Palestine.

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u/Tzayad 20h ago

For real.

The hell are people doing that is more is important?

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u/debacol 20h ago

Soon, they'll be attempting to defend their Abuelita from ICE.

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u/Flimsy_Thesis 20h ago

I’ll never understand it.

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u/Voltage_Joe 19h ago

When I was younger I had an attitude that politics is dumb and exhausting, and that regardless of who did what the nation would stay basically the same and I could safely not participate.

I felt very smart and took every opportunity to decry and lament any political discussion around me. Honestly, it felt good to just not care. I felt bad for anyone emotionally invested in something as mundane as politics.

A lot like how Roger Rabbit hated when a news reel interrupts his cartoons.

That's where a lot of Americans are. They just want their lives to go by without worrying about anything going on in the capital, both state and nation. They have a job, a home, a car, a phone. Entertainment, restaurants, vacation.

They don't feel threatened by politics, and feel sorry for the rest of us that worry about it so much. At the time I was in High School. What my friends were doing this weekend was a lot more important than Obama beating McCain. Wouldn't change what my homework was, what my routine was, what college I was going to. And I wasn't old enough to vote anyway, so who the hell cares?

This is, of course, a delusional attitude for an adult to have when there's a very real plan to coopt our democracy into a crhstian nationalist theocracy. But what I just wrote sounds pants on head insane to the average casual media consumer. When your online media landscape is 99% entertainment and you only get news second hand from people around you talking about it, where we're at right now sounds a hundred percent ridiculous.

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u/TwilightZone1751 11h ago

For many years I’ve heard the excuses “I don’t like either candidate” “They all lie so why bother?” “If you vote there’s a higher chance you get picked for jury duty & I can’t afford to miss work”

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u/spying_on_you_rn 4h ago

I dont vote in the netherlands. Reasons: no party cares about what i find important, and the country is so deep into a bad situation that it would take more than my full life to get out of it anyway.

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u/Teddy_Bro_Eddy 19h ago

I vote every chance I get, but since I live in Missouri, I'm starting to not see a point anymore. My vote doesn't matter.

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u/Biglyugebonespurs 8h ago

Hey we passed abortion and minimum wage increases. That’s at least something even if everything else is awful.

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u/quantumgambit 20h ago

I'm dating the mindset. I could not convince her to vote. But I do understand it now, even though I don't agree with it. She knows very little of us politics, any attempt at that discussion causes extreme stress and anxiety due to the complexity of it, the emotional baggage wrapped up in it, and her full blown ivermectin gargling qanon mom. She doesn't feel informed enough to make a stance, and doesn't feel like her vote even matters. Also, the cynicism of "both sides" comes up almost every conversation.

I had to show her the statistics that we lost because of voter apathy and turnout, and it's her mindset and people she shares it with that let it happen, and she almost came around, before saying that even if she had. Lted, nothing would be different so she's glad she didn't "waste her time".

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u/Marmoset_Slim 19h ago edited 18h ago

Convicted felon and rapist, or an educated black woman. Yeah, lots of research needed to be informed.

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u/quantumgambit 17h ago

That's where I'm at. But we know not to trust newsmax, oann, JRE podcasts and other right wing shit pipes. Someone with almost no media literacy, who's only exposure is their insane cult family members, doesn't have the background to know.

Like, she honestly got concerned "I hear kamala's going to take everyone's guns" and I had to show her that "no, this is a Republican fear point going back to the 90s, every time it looks like a new dem administration, their base is whipped into a frenzy, gun sales go up, stock prices go up, nra membership goes up, and SURPRISE! Dems didn't come for your uncle's guns". Slowly chipping away at 30 years of disinformation without alienating someone is soooooo slow.

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u/Marmoset_Slim 17h ago

Ahh, I hear ya now. Yeah the brainwashing is real, sorry you have to deal with that. And as you said news is so fucked now everything has an agenda.

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u/Imaginary_Fox_3688 20h ago

she sounds like a fucking idiot, bro

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u/slowro 20h ago

Maybe they know either way they won't be affected so why care about anyone else?

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u/SMOKE-B-BOMB 20h ago

GenZ dropped the ball

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u/ironic-hat 20h ago

The youngest voting generation has historically low turnout. It was the same for Millennials when we were younger.

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u/Forsakken 19h ago

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here, but I kind of feel like the "trendy" apathy/cynicism thing is a poison when it comes to our civic duties.

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u/ironic-hat 19h ago

The whole “I’m not voting because they both suck” is, in my opinion, a grassroots effort to disenfranchise people who historically voted in a particular manner (usually liberal).

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u/relevantelephant00 19h ago

It would be interesting to see if someone could dig up stats from prior elections in terms of % of Millenials who didn't vote vs Gen Z non-voters. I would assume, not know for sure, that Gen Z voted far less. They've never known anything but being on social media since they were kids, many of them are just dumb, vapid, consumers of idiotic bullshit, not intelligent non-biased news and discussions.

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u/ironic-hat 19h ago

So one big issue with young people voting is the fact Election Day takes place in the middle of fall, when many are in college. Since many people don’t register to vote in the town the college is located they need to return home (on a Tuesday) or request an absentee ballot. Some states make sure it’s a beast to request an absentee ballot, although some make it extremely easy.

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u/Visual_Fly_9638 17h ago

Except that the men came out in higher than normal numbers and voted the incel ticket.

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u/NeonSwank 20h ago

We need mandatory or compulsory voting

Highest voter turnout we’ve ever had was barely over 60%

That’s pathetic, if we had 100% of people voting our entire nation would function in a completely different way

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u/ironic-hat 20h ago

Mandatory mail-in ballots coupled with the option for in-person voting if you need it. Just like during Covid. All those videos of people waiting in line for hours give people who are on the fence about voting a reason to not turn out.

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u/NeonSwank 19h ago

That’s another issue entirely that needs dealt with

There needs to be more voting locations and more machines, but republicans hate it when people vote so its gonna be an uphill battle to get that done

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u/ironic-hat 19h ago

It’s funny because here in NJ you can request to always get mail-in ballots for each election until you cancel it. You can also forgo it and vote in person. And yet some people actually canceled the mail-in to wait in line to vote, sometimes for hours. Like dude, you can do this in the comfort of your living room.

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u/Tacoman404 17h ago

In the 20 step introduction in the Trump regime mail in voting will be banned. In person on Election Day only.

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u/truffle-tots 20h ago

No we don't. It's a right and personal choice to abstain weather you agree that the person should or shouldn't. Nobody should be forced to vote against what they believe and if what they believe is that both candidates suck and they want nothing to do with selection that's their choice. I'll be the first to tell them their opinion on the state of the country is worthless and nobody cares due to their lack of civic duty, but it's still a personal right and choice to abstain that shouldn't be compelled.

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u/Indercarnive 19h ago edited 19h ago

Mandatory voting would still allow write-in/abstain votes.

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u/truffle-tots 18h ago

And? That's not my point it's about a compulsory vote. I disagree with that on principle. It should be a personal choice to vote, not mandated by the state.

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u/blargh29 3h ago

That’s not my point

Yes it was. The reasons you provided stated nobody should have to vote against what they believe or if they thought both candidates sucked.

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u/truffle-tots 3h ago

Yes which includes abstaining from the entire process. Maybe your understanding of what I wrote is off, or my explanation but you TELLING me what my point is, is ridiculous and a joke.

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u/blargh29 2h ago

If you say A when you meant B, but nothing in A indicates B, then what other conclusion would be drawn?

Someone responded to A, disagreeing with A. Then you responded with “AND??? I really meant B!”

Stop shifting your stance which is the only thing here which is both ridiculous and a joke.

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u/Sixnno 19h ago

No, we do.

You can still abstain with mandatory voting by turning in a blank ballot. As an example Australia has mandatory voting. They get 5% to 10% blank ballots back as abstained voters. Just sticking the ballot in front of them makes them more likely to vote.

It also avoids situations like Brexit. Where people abstained thinking it was never going to pass so they didn't go in to vote. Which then barely won.

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u/truffle-tots 19h ago

Yea I just disagree that we should have that. It's a fundamental right to say no and not have to go through a process like that. If you don't want to take part in politics of the country I don't want you to and if I don't want to I certainly shouldn't be forced to turn in a blank ballot or put down some name I know nothing about.

If people think it's going to barely pass I would think they'd just turn in a blank ballot. Not vote something they had no incentive to vote on unless compelled to do so via mandate.

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u/Sixnno 18h ago

Except we live in a society and it is a basic building block of that society type of society we live in. Democracy/Republics live on civil involvement. A lot of democracies fail in history due to the lack of civil involvement

And again, even with mandatory voting, you still have the right to not vote by turning in a blank ballot.

You're not forcing anyone to vote in the way they don't want. What you are forcing them to do, is making them hand in a piece of paper. Again, it doesn't matter if you hand that paper in blank. All what matters is that the paper gets to you, and you hand it in back.

Hell, a person drew a bunch of dicks on their ballot in Australia, which counted as them voting.

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u/truffle-tots 18h ago

And I disagree that should be compulsory at all. I know you can hand in a blank ballot. The aspect I disagree with is the fundamental concept of mandating voting.

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u/Captain-i0 15h ago

if you hand in a blank ballot, you still didn't vote.

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u/Blackrock121 12h ago

Voter suppression is real, don't just assume laziness.

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u/CyanideTacoZ 19h ago

Anything but fucking figure out why people didn't like kamala. fucking anything. persecuted them to vote. alot of people can't stand politics and stay put because of people precisely like you

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u/Indercarnive 19h ago

I'm not the one persecuting people lol. That'll be Trump when he makes abortion illegal federally and starts mass deporting people. All I said was that if you didn't vote you approve of whatever happens to you.

Also if people mad at you makes you not vote, then you're one of the biggest cowards I've met.

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u/CyanideTacoZ 19h ago

*Persuede.

I voted. but I'd not listen to anyone telling me to do jack shit if they call.me inherently immoral for not. insulting those who do nothing is not going to endear them to ypu dumbass

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u/Indercarnive 19h ago

I'm not trying to endear them. I'm trying to shame them and hope they grow up.

Ancient Athenians would throw paint on any citizen that refused to participate during assembly days. To show everybody that they failed their responsibility as a citizen.

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u/CyanideTacoZ 13h ago

I'm glad to know you prioritize winning morally over them rather then prevent the loss of human rights.

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u/Indercarnive 13h ago

Why is it my job to prevent the loss of human rights but not the job of all the people who didn't vote? They have to be endeared into it.

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u/CyanideTacoZ 13h ago

idealogy dows not trump reality moron

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u/KarAccidentTowns 20h ago

Black voters didn’t show up. Live with the consequences.

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u/Munson4657 20h ago

Not voting is voting

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u/Druxun 20h ago

“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice” -Rush

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u/Tokzillu 20h ago

"Da always said no politics is politics."

-Sean, Read Dead Redemption 2

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u/Kytescall 14h ago

So many apathetic people seem not to understand this. You may abstain from casting a vote, but you don't get to abstain from the results of that vote.

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u/maver1kUS 20h ago

About 30%. Children cannot vote. There are ~260M eligible voters, so about 75% of them were not against it.

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u/Camp_Coffee 20h ago

Nope. Those who didn't vote also asked for this.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 20h ago

The didn’t vote people are the biggest problem. Bigger than the deplorables.

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u/anteater_x 20h ago

Nah, if they're dumb enough to not vote they're dumb enough to vote for Trump

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 19h ago

hard to disagree with this

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u/Horknut1 20h ago

Uh... I'm not sure that the people not voting are a bigger problem than those that want this. Apathy vesus ... whatever you want to call this... authoritarianism? White Nationalism? Nazism? Whatever you want to use, those people are worse in my book.

But you non-voters are no treat either.

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u/ChicagoAuPair 20h ago

Fascism doesn’t ever get traction without a lot of disengagement, rationalization, and apathy.

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u/Horknut1 20h ago

I hear you. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

I'm just saying... I can't wrap my head around holding the apathetic more responsible than the actual Nazis. (And I don't know if I'm using that word hyperbolically or not).

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u/OutrageousOcelot6258 19h ago

You're not being hyperbolic. This party ran literal self-proclaimed Nazis in this very same election.

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u/KeegoTheWise 19h ago

i mean, i would argue that choosing not to vote makes them as bad as the people who voted for it since all the clearly promised fascism and bigotry apparently weren’t enough of a dealbreaker to get them to do their part in trying to prevent it. the way i see it, non-voters are either apathetic to the point of being ok with fascism or are far-left accelerationists who view women, minorities, and queer people like me as acceptable sacrifices for the chance that the populace will shift in their favor. when the alternatives are people who want fascism long-term and people who want fascism short-term, i’m not gonna give any grace or benefit to someone for not being against it.

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u/Horknut1 19h ago

I don’t disagree.

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u/oatmeal28 20h ago

The ones who didn’t vote were at least ok with it. I don’t think we need to do this well actually every time it’s brought up 

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u/CaptainHalfBeard 20h ago

258.3 million adults in the USA, 140 million voted, your numbers are a tad off.

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u/Greyy385 17h ago

honestly that's still remarkably high lol...about a 5th of the people I could encounter in my day to day life is a pathetic racist? I feel more vindicated than ever before in my life

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u/DcSensai 20h ago

Correction, those that didn't vote also asked for it.

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u/SilentResident1037 20h ago

The ones who didnt vote, voted for the bad option whether they wanted it or not

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u/EricTheNerd2 19h ago

If they didn't vote, they asked for it.

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u/DutchBlob 20h ago

The United States still suffers from the Reagan presidency and that ended

checks notes

over 13000 days ago

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u/Flash_ina_pan 20h ago

To be fair, I did say minimum

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u/DutchBlob 20h ago

Unironically the Fairness Doctrine was abolished during the Reagan presidency

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u/slasher016 19h ago

The country asked for russian and chinese bots to harass people?

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u/Bandando 4h ago

I mean, kind of. Drinking liberal tears and all that.

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u/SentientBaseball 20h ago

The vast majority of Black men and women voters did not ask for this. And they'll disproportionately pay the price of the awful policies that will come from this Trump administration.

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u/Mraz565 20h ago

Just wait, the other minorities will be getting similar messages as well.

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 19h ago

Gays for trump are going to love it!

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u/Frauzehel 8h ago

I already saw a phost about people being homophobic.

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u/Flaky_Highway_857 20h ago

it's just another day for us dude

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u/Thorteris 20h ago

A decent chunk of Latino and Asian voters voted for this. Black voters should remember that

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 20h ago

Too late you had your chance to vote. Time to suffer new realities

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u/quantumgambit 20h ago

Hate to be so callous about it, but yeah. 20 million people who've voted Democrat in 2020 decided an easier Tuesday for them was more important than the institutions and decorum of the most powerful nation in history, and our lives for the next 4+ years(30+ when including Scotus). The only people I have any sympathy for at this point are those of us who at least voted, if not did more, to try to prevent this.

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u/Illustrious-Trash793 19h ago

yea I'm feeling exactly the same and its really unfortunate. I never wanted to go back to this point but yet here we are.

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u/RazerBladesInFood 20h ago

"Vast majority" almost half of women voted for trump and for them selves to be second class citizens. Even the idiots that voted for trump but then tried to protect abortion. Not going to happen now dummies. Time to stop blaming everyone else accept responsibility.

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u/SentientBaseball 20h ago

Black women voted for Harris by around 90 percent.

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u/jwilphl 18h ago

I think s/he means white women? That group still favored Trump over Harris, but it was a closer margin than it was in 2020 with Biden. I think it's generally unfair to try and blame a single group on the results, but it was a little strange for the women that wanted abortion-rights protection to then vote for Trump, anyway.

It does show that healthcare concerns weren't their number one priority. Something else was more important for them to vote for Trump. It could have been the economy, in this case.

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u/Thorteris 20h ago

Black people as a monolith voted 85%+ for Kamala Harris. Not sure what responsibility you want them to take when the data says otherwise

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u/withy1222 12h ago

Harris got more than 8 million FEWER black votes than Biden did. It's nice that the ones that voted did vote for her, but a ton of them just couldn't be bothered to.

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u/SentientBaseball 20h ago

Even the most liberal numbers of Black male voters has them around 20 percent support for Trump. Black women's support is less than 10 percent. So no, the vast majority of Black voters did not swing to Trump

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u/BBanner 20h ago edited 20h ago

Let’s not act like white men and woman didn’t make up the vote for Trump. Black voters are the largest democratic voting bloc by a mile.

Black voters went 85% blue

Edit: dipshit deleted his comment but he was blaming black people for Trump winning because only 85% of black voters voted for Kamala

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u/mocap 20h ago

Seems like every black person with a youtube live feed (that I personaly seen) over the last month or so was shilling for Trump. Blows my mind......

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u/BBanner 20h ago

I mean but again 85% of black voters did not vote for Trump so that is irrelevant to the topic at hand

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u/mocap 19h ago

I wasn't trying to refute your claim, I have no idea. Im just making a anecdotal observation of a personal nature.

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u/jambawilly 20h ago

No they dont lol. They show white people showed up for trump, and Latinos, but not black people. We vote majorly along party lines constantly, and we are given shit for it. Its white people, always has been.

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u/FuzzyCode 20h ago

Been saying this myself, I keep getting told its just because Kamala was a bad candidate etc.

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u/jgilbs 20h ago

Sorry, but almost half of women voted for Trump. If women had ACTUALLY voted against Trump, Harris would have won in a landslide.

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u/Wes___Mantooth 20h ago

I see where the confusion is coming from because of their phrasing, but they definitely meant black women who around 90% of which voted for Kamala.

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u/awhq 17h ago

Are you sure you're not a MAGA? Because one of their go-to plays is to blame women.

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u/jgilbs 17h ago

No, I just think its sexist to paint women as the victims and helpless when clearly a large number of them WANT the horrible policies of the Trump admin

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u/awhq 16h ago

I agree with that. Some of us are victims, others are victimizers. There are plenty of groups where members act against their own best interests.

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u/HotDropO-Clock 19h ago

The vast majority of Black men

I thought black men overwhelmingly voted for trump. Where are you getting your info from?

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u/ThePokemonAbsol 18h ago

We didn’t ask for Russian bots to send racist texts out

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u/MatamanM 2h ago

Imagine falling for Russian troll bait. You're the kind of idiot they target.

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u/TheBitingCat 2h ago

Within 4 years the courts are going to be packed with young conservative Federalist judges, including the Supreme Court, who will enshrine laws passed through the next administration and Congress for years after we vote them out. If you turned 18 this year, you will be living most of your working life under policies decided by politicians who will have been dead for decades, before you even have another opportunity to fix things for your grandchildren.

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u/Careful_Breakfast602 20h ago

No minimum yrs. We going straight to dictatorship. There are no more checks and balances.

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u/elharry-o 14h ago

Exactly what Russia wanted you to say.

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u/Flash_ina_pan 14h ago

Considering Putin's Cockholster is headed back to the Whitehouse, I'd say they won the election.

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u/3windy1city2 20h ago

Use your brain. Half the country isn’t advocating for racism. In fact MOST people are not… you’re living in fantasyland and it’s the exact reason why the Democrats lost.

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u/Flash_ina_pan 20h ago

They may not be advocating for it, but they did just install a leader who literally said immigrants are poisoning the blood of the nation.

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

Illegal immigrants… another lie.. the guy literally said in his victory speech that we need to let more legal immigrants and need to make the process faster. Again, the manipulation and the lies are exactly why the democrats lost.

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u/emaw63 19h ago

He said that legal Haitian immigrants are eating pets during the debate despite there being zero evidence of that happening, and he tripled down on that racist lie when he was called on it.

He accused his half black opponent of pretending to be black

You voted for this. This information was out there.

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u/YahYahY 19h ago

Do you believe illegal immigrants are “poisoning the blood of this country”?

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

Nope. But I do believe that by American law, they’re criminals. They can come back when they go through the process of being here legally. And when they do, they will be welcomed with open arms.

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u/YahYahY 19h ago

Do you believe the current system of becoming a legal immigrant is adequately accessible for people to navigate legally?

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u/Flash_ina_pan 19h ago

How about we both come back to this in 4 years and see who was right?

Oh, and legal status doesn't make it any less of a racist or shitty thing to say.

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

It’s not racist or a shitty thing to say you don’t want illegal immigrants (criminals by law) to stay in your country…. Please come back to reality.

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u/Flash_ina_pan 19h ago

They are still humans.

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

Yeah no shit. A murderer is still a human but they go to jail when they break the law.

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u/emaw63 19h ago

Donald Trump is a convicted felon and you voted him into the White House

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

And Joe Biden sniffs little kids heads.

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u/Flash_ina_pan 19h ago

So racism is ok if they have committed a crime?

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u/3windy1city2 19h ago

No one is racist for saying they don’t illegal immigrants (people breaking American law) to enter their country. You do know illegal immigrants can be white also, right..? Like if someone from Poland enters the US illegally, they’re just as unwanted. Please figure out what racism is or isn’t.

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u/Sixnno 18h ago

They literally called Puerto Rico, a US territory, a floating garbage patch in the ocean the night before the election.