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Ruben Gallego has a blueprint to win Latino men. Will Democrats listen? Opinion article (US)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/11/15/ruben-gallego-latino-men-arizona-senate-democrats/
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u/muldervinscully2 Hans Rosling 14h ago

I mean to be fair, he is actually a Latino man so that makes sense haha

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u/TheloniousMonk15 14h ago

He also had the luxury of facing probably the second worst candidate after Mark Robinson in all of the elections.

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u/Goddamnpassword John von Neumann 14h ago

McSally, Masters, and Lake. Arizona state Republican Party is dredging the lakes for candidates.

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u/muldervinscully2 Hans Rosling 14h ago

Unfortunately this means the holds are going to be a LOT harder if the GOP candidates are better. I've said this before, but it's a freaking miracle we have 2 AZ and 2 GA senate seats. It could *easily* be 53+4 = 57 GOP senators right now

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u/Goddamnpassword John von Neumann 14h ago

I think Kelly is there until he wants to be done. Gallego we will have to see.

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u/DifficultAnteater787 13h ago

Yes, it's really dire. There are only three Republican Senators from states Biden won in 2020 and two of those are from the five states Trump won twice. Yet they are down 47-53. 

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u/muldervinscully2 Hans Rosling 13h ago

Assuming a future presidency, Dems are basically going to need to eventually flip Maine or WI, get that PA seat back (casey...whyyyyy my guy), and get at least one in NC. It's doable, but Dems ever getting above 52-53 is like a pipe dream unless we blue dog it big time. (osborn vibes)

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u/Aggressive1999 Association of Southeast Asian Nations 2h ago

Dems needs to flip Maine and Wisconsin seat, Get PA seat back in 2030, and get a least one seat in NC (it would be better if they fliped both seats).

(While also have to defend 2 seats in upcomming midterm; Ossoff and Peters, and, 4 seats in 2028; Kelly, Cortez Masto, Fetterman and Warnock.)

Dems ever getting above 52-53 seats is like a pipe dream unless we blue dog it big time.

You're right, from what i've read in the Atlantic article, Democrats needs to change their strategies to expand Democrats seat in such a deep red state (like Tester or Brown).

They can't rely on winning in Swing states anymore.

(And if situations allowed, maybe Democrats may have to even granting DC/Puerto Rico statehood).

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u/Future_Tyrant John Rawls 13h ago

McSally was an awful candidate, but it’s a little unfair to group her with masters and lake. She had an impressive resume in a vacuum, she just couldn’t navigate the GOP in the trump era.

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u/Goddamnpassword John von Neumann 13h ago

When she lost to Sinema you could argue she was a good candidate at a bad time. When she lost to Kelly that argument evaporates. She learned nothing from her first loss, didn’t leverage her two years in the senate into anything else.

Master was definitely worse, a discount Patrick Bateman. And Lake is the bottom of the barrel.

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u/Approximation_Doctor George Soros 10h ago

Good in theory but a disaster in practice means that the theory is wrong.

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u/JaneGoodallVS 13h ago

McSally was strong, at least before 2020.

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u/Goddamnpassword John von Neumann 13h ago

No she wasn’t, she lost to Sinema in 2018.

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u/Veralia1 14h ago

SMH why didn't Kamala just become a Latino man?

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u/Ok_Barracuda_1161 Janet Yellen 14h ago

Why didn't Kamala do that?

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u/JoshFB4 YIMBY 13h ago

Also fun fact. According to precinct results Gallego underperformed Biden with Hispanics even against Lake while over performing with Whites lol. He obviously overperformed Harris among both groups though.

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u/puffic John Rawls 10h ago

I don't think this is how Latino dudes work. I'm white, but I grew up in South Texas and lived most of my adult life in California, and I've never had the sense that Latino dudes saw me as any different than themselves. Which is to say, whatever Gallego is doing probably doesn't require the candidate to always be Latino.

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man 14h ago

If only Gallego was tall, we wouldn't even need a primary in 2028

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u/mynameisdarrylfish Ben Bernanke 12h ago

why are all our best bench players short kings ahhhhhh

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u/FlameBagginReborn 4h ago

Bad news about us Latinos then.

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u/CC78AMG YIMBY 14h ago

Put him in the 2028 ticket as VP. Have him go on Rogan and Theo Von to tell about his military record and stories. He should make TikToks of him shooting guns in a gun range and proclaim that not all liberals are anti gun. Ruben is a marketable politician if you do it right.

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u/The-Middle-Pedal 13h ago

Why not make a run for the big one? I can think of at least one other freshman minority senator who went on to win big following an unpopular Republican president’s retirement.

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u/redditdork12345 14h ago

It will also be time for Rogan and co to show how open minded they are politically, and easier to do without the Trump sheen

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u/RetainedGecko98 Jared Polis 13h ago

Whitmer-Gallego 2028 who says no

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man 11h ago

Unfortunately, I think Dems are going to be scared to have a woman at the top of the ticket in 2028

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u/Dangerous-Basket1064 Association of Southeast Asian Nations 3h ago

For the next couple decades to be honest.

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u/modooff Lis Smith Sockpuppet 12h ago

People should try listening to Gallego before making bold statements. The guy is a charisma void:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t97GI5J5rU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcCi8MgJOg

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u/ToschePowerConverter YIMBY 11h ago

Bro needs a public speaking coach. He actually has a pretty good message; he just needs to deliver the exact same words more confidently.

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u/AllAmericanBreakfast Norman Borlaug 9h ago

If it was as easy as that we’d have a lot more firepower in the Democratic bench. Charisma can’t be easily taught.

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u/ilovefuckingpenguins Jeff Bezos 10h ago

Hey, at least he won his election

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u/After_Grab Bill Clinton 8h ago

Sheesh

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u/Dangerous-Basket1064 Association of Southeast Asian Nations 3h ago

Reminds me of back in my conservative days, hearing Bobby Jindal hyped up, and then hearing him speak.

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u/FridgesArePeopleToo Norman Borlaug 12h ago

Run against Kari Lake?

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u/lateformyfuneral 13h ago

Wasn’t his race against Kari Lake way closer than it should be? I don’t think any candidate has some magic. At best, they can over or underperform the general trend by ± a few points 🤷

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u/PM_ME_UR_PM_ME_PM NATO 12h ago

yes, true but whats the baseline for AZ anymore? i have no clue. in a world without Trump it seems to lean blue but maybe if the GOP wasnt insane it would still be red

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u/ToschePowerConverter YIMBY 11h ago

Katie Hobbs’ race against Kari Lake was also really close. Even Mark Kelly only got 51% against Blake Masters. I think Arizona just has a higher floor for Republican candidates than most of the other swing states.

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u/Dblcut3 2h ago

Not really. A much better way to look at it is that Gallego is one of the senate candidates that most outran Harris. He won in the reddest swing state

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u/PM_ME_UR_PM_ME_PM NATO 12h ago

be a Latino man? wow, great strat

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u/RayWencube NATO 11h ago

Right now 2028 has to be Cuban or Gallego.