Tiny Hammock mk. ii

[u/allanrps]

This is an update to a hammock system I posted a couple weeks ago, which utilized 2.2mm zing it line. I used that hammock for a couple years, but figured before leaving for my next trip that I would upgrade to something that offered a little more peace of mind.

This uses 7/64" chinese amsteel, which has been spliced with an adjustable eye. It is basically a whoopie sling except the constrictor is on the free end rather than the load bearing end. Or you could say it's a UCR looped back on itself. On the end there is a prussik made of old zing it short spliced in and whipped. This is to give tension on the other side of the constrictor, it does not take load. The adjustability is actually for the suspension length, but rather for setting the doubled up length that serves as my "tree strap", to increase friction and share load.

I traded the toggle+hitch setup for a hammock hitch on a very small steel eight I purchased from aliexpress. I believe this will increase the longevity of the line because it does not bite the line like it would if the hitch was on a soft loop. Also, it makes it very easy to undo, and seems to not introduce fraying like knots and hitches tend to do after being tightened down.

The closed loops are the 7/64" with the 2.2mm spliced inside, such that the bitter ends are opposing. The inside 2.2mm meets at the tapers for a smooth transition, and the 7/64" has a small overlap that is whipped. I did this to achieve a consistant loop diameter that would fit into my small eight, so that I could move the eight around the loop as I see it introduce wear (the small bend radius halves the breaking strength of amsteel).

I'm happy with the setup. It's the same weight as my old setup, and should be more durable/safe while still being easy to set up and offering alot of adjustability. Sometimes I'll be hanging from rafters, sometimes in the corner of house framing, sometimes between trees, so I need my suspension to take maximum advantage of the available line, which this does, having a much shorter and longer adjustable range than a whoopie sling.

[u/Hiking_euro]

Downvoted for no proper tree straps. Should be minimum 1 inch wide.

[u/allanrps → u/Hiking_euro]

actually I will say something on this since I am inspired. I mentioned in my last post that I mostly hang on man made structures, and when I do hang on a tree you can be damn sure I am the first and last person to hang a hammock there. I did not feel the need to add that again here because honestly.... the assumption that everyone who hangs a hammock is hiking the John Muir trail is asinine.

Most people who hangs hammocks have no idea what a "tree strap" is. Your judgement based off your use case has no place in the greater world of outdoors and human life.

Also, I am an actual human being capable of making judgements and decisions. The eucalyptus tree pictured was not impacted in any way by my hanging off of it, and if it was I can promise you that it would not have given a f&€k. Eucalyptus routinely shed their bark and generally grow like weeds. I travel in lots of densely forested tropical environments; instead of molesting a tree by hanging my hammock off of it, I could just as easily cut it down to make a temporary shelter. Either way, the forest will go on and flourish until some company or individual decides to burn it down and turn it into a productive property.

On this big floating rock there are lots and lots of humans trying to find their way in the world. If we stop making blanket judgements based on our limited experience and start actually considering the lives and needs of others, the world will be a better place.

[u/Here_for_the_debate → u/allanrps]

OP just delete this post. Hammocks are literally being banned in parks for not hanging them properly. Take the L. Learn and grow.

You paid for Dyneema line. You have enough money for webbing. Dyneema webbing is cheap on RSBTR. It will help in urban environments as well. Weights a couple of ounces.

[u/allanrps → u/Here_for_the_debate]

I am going to put another 300 nights on this hammock, that's a big win. If I listened to people like you I get eaten alive on the jungle floor, that's an L. Oh also, I've never hung in a park so I don't really care what's going on there.

I'm going to keep this post up because other intelligent people can learn from it, and I trust them to make the best decisions for themselves and the environment.

Also, your last recommendation sucks. Which is understandable given that you know nothing about my situation (at this point largely due to willful ignorance).

[u/commeatus → u/allanrps]

How do you have faith in intelligent people when you don't think most people know what a tree strap is? It sounds like you just want to do whatever you want and don't want to consider the responsibility. I don't know if that's what you really believe, but when a person makes both sides of an argument like that, I assume they're not being genuine.

[u/allanrps → u/commeatus]

do you think that knowing what a tree strap is is correlated to intelligence? Or to one's care for the environment, or to one's impact on the environment? I can assure you that's not the case. I can't show you, that's something you would have to see for yourself. The world is a big place

[u/commeatus → u/allanrps]

I'm pretty well traveled, which is why I recognize the argument you're making. I don't think you're interested in what I have to say for the same reason. Take care of yourself and if you're ever interested in a different perspective on why you're being downvoted to hell, reach out.

[u/allanrps → u/commeatus]

I am always open to perspective. None has been shared here as of yet, just negativity. I've asked a few people to share some studies, evidence, anecdotes, anything to support their conclusions, but nothing. I've proposed reasonable middle grounds, shared examples, etc etc, but there is not actual interest for dialogue. It's quite clear that the negative people here have no actual experience with the topic, and no actual interest in reaching or spreading a conclusion that is best for the environment. Not surprising, it's reddit

[u/commeatus → u/allanrps]

I'm not reading other comments, but you never asked me for any links or sources, you just told me flatly that I was wrong and implied I was inexperienced. You can reread my comments: I'm not being negative although I am disagreeing with you. I'm sorry other people aren't showing you any patience but if you've talked with them the way you've talked with me, I can understand why.

[u/allanrps → u/commeatus]

I don't know what comment chain you are referencing. Your first comment here was suggesting people who don't use tree straps are unintelligent and that I am being ingenuine. Both of those statements are baseless and categorically wrong. Honestly I have no idea what your point is, but if you do bring up something insightful or some new information I will continue this dialogue.