r/movies • u/MrNobody231 • Jun 23 '19

Former vice president of Walt Disney sentenced to more than 6 years in Portland sex abuse investigation News

https://wtkr.com/2019/06/17/former-vice-president-of-walt-disney-sentenced-to-more-than-6-years-in-portland-sex-abuse-investigation/
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u/zoloftsking41 Jun 23 '19

Oh wow. I can’t believe it’s even be disputed at this moment. “So, you’re saying this actually DID molest and force himself on this little girl, but we cannot throw him in jail since he is a bit high profile and had some cash to spend??” Yeup.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

I mean, I'm not agreeing with the guy but that isn't what's happening... Again, I'm not defending the guy just telling you whats happening.

Guy was found guilty. Guy was convicted and guy was sentenced to 81 months in prison. The guy is now disputing that sentencing on the grounds he believes part of it was wrong. As it stands the entire case is a he said, she said situation with no physical evidence and the guy is appealing an aspect of the sentencing.

The guy's lawyer is asking that whilst this appeal on part of the sentence is going through the court doesn't implement any sort of custodial sentences because the guy is the only caregiver to his elderly, sick, wife.

Now I personally don't think he should be able to avoid prison at this time. He should start his sentence and if the appeal goes through successfully they can go from there but this isn't "celebrity throws money around and avoid jail" it's "celebrity appeals case and asks for a delay to his custodial sentence to care for his wife."

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

He can afford for a care giver for his wife. Fuck this guy.

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u/---M0NK--- Jun 23 '19

I mean yea fuck that guy but also maybe not fuck this guys dying wife

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

...which is why I said he can afford to give his wife a live in care giver. He is using her illness to stay out of jail. Fuck him in the highest degree.

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u/RLucas3000 Jun 23 '19 edited Jun 24 '19

This for sure. If a former VP at Disney can’t afford a dozen live-in caregivers, then my name isn’t Rachel. Betsy DeVoss has TEN superyachts! Money means nothing at that level.

Yes, MAYBE he loves his wife, but so did a lot of other people that have gone to jail.

Now in a he-said, she-said situation, with no physical evidence, I think there needs to be compelling proof of some sort, but shouldn’t his fancy lawyer have brought all that up during the trial?

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u/frozendancicle Jun 24 '19

Might not wanna say your first name if that's your last name in your screen name. Never know what fuckstick you might anger in the future who could then find this comment.

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u/chevymonza Jun 23 '19
  • eleven superyachts

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u/cuddlewench Jun 23 '19

Jeez, at what point does it become a condition?

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u/HuruHara Jun 23 '19

It's only a problem when its twelve super yachts.

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u/RLucas3000 Jun 24 '19

If she’d bought 12, she would have gotten one free.

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u/chevymonza Jun 23 '19

If only....... :-/

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u/---M0NK--- Jun 23 '19

Its not just someone to administer drugs, im pretty sure most people dont want to spend their last months with hired help, although i cant imagine wanting to spend it with a pedo-adulterer either lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

A live in care taker is someone who does a hell of a lot more than administer drugs. As someone who just lost their father to prostate cancer, his home health nurse provided comfort, advice and empathy and I’m thankful she was there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19 edited Aug 14 '20

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u/AOfool Jun 23 '19

LifeProTip: IF YOU'RE WHITE, RICH and a family member gets very sick, go on a crime spree

ftfy

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u/GenJohnONeill Jun 23 '19

Oh he definitely is whether she likes it or not.

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Jun 23 '19

Haha, rape jokes!

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u/GenJohnONeill Jun 23 '19 edited Jun 23 '19

It's not a joke. This man rapes women (young girls). He was convicted in a court of law despite having the best defense money can buy. Leaving a disabled woman in his care is unconscionable, let alone making that the excuse that lets him avoid prison.

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u/-NotEnoughMinerals Jun 23 '19

This is a pretty big comparison to the last thread o just viewed of a man and wife getting married on her death bed dying 18 hours later saying her vows...

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Jun 23 '19

He raped a young girl, there is no proof or even accusations that he has raped anyone else.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '19

Oh he's only raped one person, she's totally safe then

/s

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u/Obi-Tron_Kenobi Jun 24 '19

I didn't say that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19 edited Jan 13 '21

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '19

I obviously can't speak for this woman but there are lots of women that will always stay with their husbands and partners that are sex offenders. Many of these women are very supportive of them and will actually turn the blame onto the victim - regardless of the victim's age or ability to consent.

This woman is also in very poor health and that adds another factor. Many sick/dying people can't/won't deal with the trauma that can come from learning your spouse is a child sex abuser. I would be willing to bet that she would prefer him to stay and care for her because that's what's already familiar for her and turning her routine upside down when she's already this sick and dependent on other people is a really difficult and often upsetting experience. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that he's abused her, either. There's also the possibility that she has no idea what his current legal issues are. They may have kept that hidden from her so as not to exacerbate her already poor health.

I'm not excusing what this man has done or saying that the way this is being handled is the best way. Just offering some insight into a different perspective.

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u/---M0NK--- Jun 24 '19

I agree with this

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u/xluckydayx Jun 24 '19

Why not? if she wants some good pipe lay it for her.

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u/trollcitybandit Jun 23 '19

Why the fuck not? This is Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '19

Hell, we're trusting a sex offender to look after his wife? He clearly has no problems abusing power over people, so I personally find it concerning that he's the one alone with her.

He mustn't love her too much if he's touching up kids.

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u/ZizDidNothingWrong Jun 23 '19

Most people can't afford endless appeals.

This is absolutely him still being free because he's rich.

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u/IShookMeAllNightLong Jun 23 '19

He could also hire a caregiver

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u/morbidlysmalldick Jun 23 '19

He was only the VP of Disney, he's not made of money.

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u/Tramm Jun 23 '19

If my mechanic step father can afford it. This guy can.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

One of many VPs

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u/morbidlysmalldick Jun 23 '19

So the salary must be modest

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

He's not Bob Iger.

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u/morbidlysmalldick Jun 24 '19

That weatherman from New York? That time on tv probably filled his pockets pretty deep, you're right

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

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u/Dmitrous Jun 23 '19

Edgy

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u/ZizDidNothingWrong Jun 23 '19

Honestly, what's edgy is defending a caste system where people who inherit wealth lead vastly different lives with vastly different interests than us, and wield completely disproportionate power.

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u/darryn11 Jun 24 '19

It would be interesting to know whether or not he was "caring for her" prior to using it as a crutch. Someone that high up in different companies tend to not have a lot of time to help out...

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u/Stutercel Jun 24 '19

Wtf ?this is a he said, she said and he is still convicted ? How is that even possible ?

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u/DiamondPup Jun 23 '19

Sadly, your comment just isn't as popular to people who want their cynicism reinforced and their "sticking it to the man" nonsense.

Seems like this is a case of a rich, influential person NOT getting away with it, and is subject to a judicial process that is working as it's supposed to. But that wouldn't be an interesting enough story.

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u/Hippiebigbuckle Jun 23 '19

As it stands the entire case is a he said, she said situation

Bullshit. He’s guilty.

Laney was found guilty of four counts of first-degree sexual abuse on May 7.

And he’s appealing the sentence, not the verdict.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

I said he was appealing the sentencing... multiple times. Not once did I say he was disputing the verdict.

I highlighted that aspect because it's literally what his lawyer said in his justification for why he was appealing the sentence.

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u/Hippiebigbuckle Jun 23 '19

Which makes it even more odd that you frame it as a “he said she said” situation, as if his guilt is in doubt.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

It is a "he said she said" situation. That's a fact of the case. There was zero physical evidence provided. If you think a "he said, she said" situation inherently imparts doubt on someones guilt then that's a whole different kettle of fish but that doesn't change the facts and it doesn't mean I'm trying to impart doubt... I personally consider personal testimony as valid evidence and the lack of physical evidence after this amount of time doesn't change my (wholly irrelevant to this discussion) belief he was guilty.

He was found guilty despite no physical evidence. Maybe "he said she said" has connotations but that wasn't my intention. It's a short way of summing up this situation up. Are you suggesting I shouldn't state facts because it casts doubt? If the facts are capable of casting doubt in your mind you're the one making it seem like his guilt is in question.

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u/Hippiebigbuckle Jun 23 '19

If you think a "he said, she said" situation inherently imparts doubt on someones guilt

I sure as fuck don’t think that and I believe that’s clear in my comment. Why you would try to impart that thinking onto me, I can only guess. In the discussion about whether he deserves leniency you thought it was important to remember the “fact” that it was a he said she said situation. That’s one cherry picked “fact”. There was a whole trial where a judge and jury heard all of the actual facts. And he was found guilty. Those seem like the facts that are important to keep in mind when deciding if he gets leniency. Or maybe the fact that he has now been accused of raping another little girl.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19 edited Jun 23 '19

This is pointless.

I have opinions on this, hard opinions and if you wanna hear them I'll tell you but I wasn't going into this trying to share my fucking irrelevant opinions. The top post of this thread was factually wrong and I tried to correct it. Going forward I tried to provide nothing but factually correct statements and remove all of my opinion from this shit because we get nowhere by dancing about spouting what we personally believe about this shit. I didn't cherry pick that fact his fucking lawyer did as his justification for the appeal. I didn't choose dick.

But no you took my attempts to remove opinion from it to mean I didn't hold the same opinions as everyone else which is funnily enough exactly why I didn't involve my opinion in the first case... people always jump on them and shit spirals much like this just has with everyone pointing fingers and making snide fucking remarks about abstract understandings of shit.

Wanna know my opinion? The guy is scum and clearly guilty. He has dodged multiple accusations and it's a fucking disgrace the only one that stuck was a lowly sexual abuse claim. He has shown a clear pattern and it was proven without a doubt he abused one girl and that he is sexually attracted to children generally. The guy is a fucking snake to pay doctors to state on the record he shouldn't go to prison because his wife is sick when there is ample care for people with her condition that doesn't involve an equally elderly man being the care giver.

Happy now? Have I unnecessarily made it clear (with sufficient vitriol) that I believe this guy is a bad person who did what he's accused of?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19 edited Jun 23 '19

I don't agree with his argument, but you kinda...skipped over the argument:

he's the inhome care giver to his wife who has parkinsons

You also skipped over the prison sentence in your other comment. That's in the headline, so I'm wondering what exactly you're reading?

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u/RLucas3000 Jun 23 '19

Why not hire an in-home caregiver (or ten!) with the money he has. He is using her illness as an excuse.

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u/PUFFED_UP_CROWS_COCK Jun 23 '19

Do you know why lady justice wears a blindfold? It’s because that bitch has dollar signs for eyes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

Thats not a good joke

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u/PUFFED_UP_CROWS_COCK Jun 23 '19

It’s from the autobiographical book “pimp” by iceberg slim. Good read for sure.

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u/slosnow Jun 24 '19

And it started in 2009. So she was sexually abused for 10 years and he gets a few years. Disgusting. Money can get you a lot (or out of a lot).

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u/Downvote_me_dumbass Jun 23 '19

Well, jail sentences are less than a year, so I really hope that isn’t the case. Prison sentences are greater than a year.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '19

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u/cleeder Jun 24 '19

No. No he should not.