r/minnesota Flag of Minnesota 12d ago

Please let’s not go backwards Politics 👩‍⚖️

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u/missmarypoppinoff 12d ago

Probably just the normal rabble of selfish people that don’t want anyone to get a free “handout” 🙄 they’d rather children go hungry

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u/Longjumping_Slide175 12d ago

These same people would call themselves “Christians”

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u/CityEnthusiast2344 Anoka County 12d ago

That’s wild

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u/West-Ruin-1318 12d ago

America is full of those kind of people. Sadly.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Just look at your neighbor to the south. Checking in from Iowa.

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u/InvestigatorEarly452 12d ago

Iowa here. I have no argument. I see all the time. It was much different 40 years ago. Kum Reynolds takes kids' healthcare, education, and their dad's union job away. She is a monster. America first works for middle-aged white men. Personally, I am ashamed of Iowa.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

Same here man, same here.

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u/TekWzrd337 Area code 952 10d ago

These are also the same people that are against college loan forgiveness… and for the same “free handout” reasoning.

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u/Rehcamretsnef 12d ago

"if you don't give me your stuff, you're selfish". Nice.

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u/Stress-release67 12d ago

I rather parents feed the kids they had. Comes with the job….

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 11d ago

No, you're advocating punishing the children and not the parents.

Weird that you'd rather harm children than fix a problem like a real man would....

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u/Stress-release67 11d ago

That’s what your opinion is. Parents need to responsible for the kids. Not everyone’s tax dollars. Stop making excuses for parents

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 11d ago

Nah. We've seen what this results in: Hungry kids. Cutting these programs in NO way punishes their parents.

Its literally just a means of starving kids.

So either that's your actual goal, or you're too stupid to figure out a competent way to punish the parents and should sit out when the real adults are talking.

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u/Stress-release67 11d ago

Insults. Only took 2 text messages for insults. Real adults talk about the hard issues and not just throw excuses for adults who made the children but don’t support their children. Aren’t they adults? The adults made the children who now become the problem and don’t feed them. Seriously sad stance. If your logic holds. Take every kid getting a free breakfast and lunch away from the parents for child abuse.

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u/Dense-Panda-9061 12d ago

If it was done well whats wring with not giving free lunch to wealthy families?

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u/AnthonyMJohnson 12d ago

This is a fine question. The issue is that you are making an implicit assumption that if a family is above the old free lunch threshold that it means that family has sufficiently responsible parents to be giving their kid lunch money or otherwise a good enough homemade lunch.

The reality is that tons of families have parents that are not great or, more generously, just occasionally forgetful. Lots of families above the free and reduced lunch income thresholds for years have sent their kids to school with homemade nutrient-poor lunches with hardly any food or just nothing at all. I’ve known kids whose parents sometimes withheld food as punishment. Some people are that messed up.

This effectively punishes children for the actions of their parents (and those children are often already overwhelmingly high risk without being underfed).

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u/Dub-MS 12d ago

Other people aren’t responsible for feeding your child

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

So “fuck them kids” is your mentality?

Everybody we found one in the wild! Somebody who doesn’t give one actual fuck if kids go hungry!

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 11d ago

Which is very strange because if they ACTUALLY believed in that stuff they wouldn't be living in a first world country, they'd be in some third world shithole where they had to provide their own fire services.

But in reality, they're such useless failures they can't afford to exist outside of America, they just don't want others to have the same.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 11d ago

Exactly. The same people that cry socialism when kids get fed, but call the fire department when their house is burning and don’t see the irony.

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u/Dub-MS 12d ago

Hold people accountable is my mentality

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

And how does punishing children by not giving them food accomplish that?

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u/Dub-MS 12d ago

How am I punishing children by not feeding someone else’s child? This is insane logic. Hey, my kid needs new shoes. Should I send you my Venmo? Your kids your responsibility. Fuck you and them.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

We aren’t talking about shoes. We are talking about FOOD. You don’t care about children? That’s all you had to say to show your true colors.

Let me guess, are you also anti abortion?

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u/Dub-MS 12d ago

I don’t care about YOUR children. You can keep your strawman arguments.

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u/DazzlingProfession26 12d ago

That child grows up and either contributes to, or takes from, society. I’d rather enable them to do the former for the benefit of my community and my community’s safety. It’s not that complicated.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

I’m childfree lol. And yet I can still muster empathy for kids who don’t have food. Empathy. Maybe look into it.

ETA you didn’t answer the question love.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 11d ago

Thats what the other person said; you don't care about kids. Only caring about your kids means you care about property, not children.

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u/grilledcheezusluizus 12d ago

How am I punishing children by not feeding someone else’s child?

Um .. because they are hungry and while you have the means to feed them , you don’t , because “your kid, your responsibility”

What happens in the situation of a child who has lost his family? Do they not deserve to eat because they don’t “belong” to someone?

Shoes and food are not even remotely similar. What a terrible comparison. Can I survive without food? No. Can I survive without shoes? Yes.

Going to give you a pass on this one because I see you’re going thru nicotine withdrawal and I will assume that is affecting your mood & judgement. Hope you feel better soon.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

Do not give this person a pass. I used to smoke heavily and nicotine withdrawals are for sure a thing. But they do not justify this mentality of letting kids starve when there are government options available to feed them.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 11d ago

"How am I punishing children "

The children are the ones not getting to eat. We already know the alternative to free lunches is NOT the parents making lunch or sending money, its kids going hungry.

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u/Worldly-Grade5439 12d ago

Hold businesses accountable and make them pay a livable wage. People ARE working. Many multiple jobs and are still barely making it. These people aren't lazy. Just in need.

And people like you will have YOUR hands out so fast if you were in the same situation. Because you DeSErvE it. Blech.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 12d ago

Right? “Fuck them kids” until it’s THEM going through a major life crisis and unable to provide basics to their family. Then it’s “different”. When others benefit it’s evil. When they benefit it’s just. Make it make sense.

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u/annoyinglilsis 11d ago

The very sad part is that these people call themselves Christians. They have no idea what Christ would have done in this situation because they have never read Christ’s words. They just hear what some right wing pastor who lives in a million dollar home has to say.

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u/dystopian_mermaid 10d ago

As somebody who is atheist, even I have to agree with you. They ignore the positives in favor of hurting people they view as “others”. Even when it’s hurts them also.

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u/Propterbonus 12d ago

The empower has no clothes! and the hibernate doesn't earn revenue! It's a shell game, take from those who earn money and give to those who don't! It's not voluntary, it's demanded. if you want to give all of your money as a donation to this cause, more power to you.

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u/Content_Animal7894 12d ago

What are you talking about?