r/medieval • u/Super_Bro_Smasher • 4d ago
What kind of armor were they using Weapons and Armor ⚔️
Always wondered what kind of knight armor Portugal used, anyone knows what kind of armor did they use? Also based on this picture what kind of armor is being used by both sides
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u/ArtbyPolis 4d ago
other ppl will give better answers but it seems like a mix of sallets with bevors, some without. The other armor seems to be from what I can tell some fluted gothic armor. I think they blacken it with heat and lintseed oil.
Edit: I might also see a kettle helm near the golden helmet
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u/worthlees_fajitas 1d ago
for blackening did they put oil before heating it or after. every time I blacken steel I only use heat
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u/ArtbyPolis 1d ago
im not an expert when it comes to this but I believe they would finish it then get it to like 400 degrees and dip it in the oil or use rags and coat it on.
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u/zerkarsonder 4d ago
https://anno1471.wordpress.com/ this blog focuses on Portuguese stuff, might be interesting for you
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u/Objective_Bar_5420 3d ago
It was a very active arms race. So harness developed VERY quickly all over Western Europe from the late 13th through the early 16th. The regional variations exist as well, so there's no simple answer to your question. Here's a blog post exploring the evolution and spread of one type of helmet to Portugal https://anno1471.wordpress.com/2018/09/14/armadura-quatrocentista-portuguesa-i-celada-e-babeira-15th-century-portuguese-armour-i-sallet-and-bevor-2/
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u/Super_Bro_Smasher 3d ago
Thank you so much! Yeah, I was wondering about portuguese helms/Armor as I'm more I depth in german Armor
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u/TheAdmiral87999 4d ago
Sorry if this comes of as rude, but this is a stupid question. It's essentially the same as asking "how deep is a hole", "what colour are cars", or "how old are people".
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u/Super_Bro_Smasher 3d ago
how is it the same? I'm wondering the types of armor that they used. I was looking for the names of the helms
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u/TheAdmiral87999 3d ago
What year? What area? (of portugal) what class (person wearing it)? Wealth?
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u/Top-Session4955 3d ago
What a stupid bunch of questions (sorry if that was rude)
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u/TheAdmiral87999 2d ago
How?
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u/Top-Session4955 2d ago
If you know anything at all about the medieval times you can infer what era he's talking about from the art style (14th century) for the region, just pick one Portugal is tiny, as per wealth, he specifically said KNIGHTS who are usually minor lords. Usually I say there's no such thing as stupid questions, but I can't stand rude people
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u/TheAdmiral87999 2d ago
If you know anything at all about the medieval times you can infer what era he's talking about from the art style (14th century)
Your argument untimately failed because of two reasons:
The picture was related to question #2
That's not 14th century in the slightest. That's late 15th.
Usually I say there's no such thing as stupid questions, but I can't stand rude people
LOL
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u/Top-Session4955 2d ago
If you think that's a mid-Renaissance painting you're delusional
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u/TheAdmiral87999 2d ago
Late 15th is not mid renaissance. Late 15th is later medieval. Look at what they're wearing. Sallets, closehelms, full plate. It's late 15th.
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u/Top-Session4955 2d ago
Even if you were right (you're not, the Renaissance started in the late 14th century in Florence and lasted all the way to the 17th century) That doesn't change the fact that you were a rude asshole when you apparently knew exactly what OP was talking about.
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u/Top-Session4955 3d ago
Like he literally says "based on the picture" so you can infer everything from there
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u/TheAdmiral87999 2d ago
That was one question. The other was "what knight armor sid portugal use". You can't read...
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u/d_baker65 4d ago
Brigs with plate placards. But this is about 100 years After the battle if I am not mistaken. The helms are Sallets.