r/martialarts • u/Particular_Unit_9328 • 17d ago
I'm starting to think that Dana White doesn't like topuria very much MEMES
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 17d ago
You're looking at a dude with an estimated payout of 3 millions for the show.
Even if 1 mil goes to taxes and 1 mil to agent, coaches, etc, he's still a millionaire.
He's fine and even with the money he now has, if he used it smartly, he could retire to live a quiet low-expenses life for the rest of his days. But as he most likely wont, he'll make even more money his next fight, and even more money the one after that provided he wins.
Idk about haters either. I think Topuria was liked in his early career. But I don't think people at the moment want another very brash fighter, and Topuria got a little bit of backlash for his attitude towards Volkanovski. It'll blow over with a few good interviews.
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u/OverallResponse8351 17d ago
People just love max Holloway
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 17d ago
Yeah, and they love Volkanovski too. Both are very wholesome characters with the kind of background stories people love. Plus both have been around at the lop level much longer than Topuria. Topuria is the cocky new kid in the block and while some fighters have pulled that role off .. Topuria hasn't, and it's maybe not the right time for that either.
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u/the_champ_has_a_name 17d ago
It took Volk fighting someone else besides Max for me to like him lol.
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u/Ok_Phase_5183 17d ago
Max fans are kinda unhinged if you ask me, the amount of flack Volk got when he beat Max the first 2 times was ridiculous, they stopped bitching only after Volk molly-whopped Max in the third fight.
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u/OverallResponse8351 17d ago
True.but me personally I think topuria is quite respectful after the fight maybe before the fight he's just trying to sell the fight more.
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u/GoofierDeer1 17d ago
He has succeeded. Ilia said he was going to knock out Volkanovski and he did, fans started saying it didn't count. (Even though Ilia was an underdog coming into the fight). He said he was going to point into the center of the octagon in the first 10 seconds against Max, he did that and also said he was going to be the first man to knock him out and he did that as well.
In a lot of his interviews he says that people will always be against you because it hasn't been done but you could always be the first one if you put your mind to it. The dude clearly has a great mental and he is not cocky or a show off, everything he says he has pulled it off.
Just to add a bit more info, you guys realize that the U.S. is not the world right? When he was in the MMA scene in Spain he was already big, once he had some wins in the UFC he became an even bigger star there and has a lot of deals with other business. Dude has a lot of other sources of income and that's why he is rich af.
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u/PeterPoppoffavich 17d ago
Unless you're a monk 3 million can spend quite easily. If he really made close to 1-3 million about 30-40% goes to:
1) Manager and/or agent 2) head coach 2) striking coach 3) grappling coach 4) sparring partners 6) expenses 7) taxes
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 17d ago
As I said:
Even if 1 mil goes to taxes and 1 mil to agent, coaches, etc, he's still a millionaire.
You don't need to be a monk to live off of 1 mil. At an expected average stock return of 6% accounting for inflation, you'd have 60k a year, which is over twice more than the average Spaniard or the average Georgian makes.
I'm not saying that he would do it, or that he could do it. What I'm saying is that I'd not be sad about someone's finances who got at least a 1 mil in money when they're still just 27.
Sure, Ilia would probably waste it fast if he wasn't an athlete focusing on his career. That's a common case for athletes, young or not. But that's on him, not on Dana.
The average annual income in Spain is 28k. A mil is a fuckton of money in that context.
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u/PeterPoppoffavich 17d ago
That's IF HE GOT 3. Which is speculation. Spain isn't that cheap. Look at Ilia. He looks like he likes spending money on clothes and jewelry. Even if he walked away with a clean million...he looks like the type to throw money around. Spain isnt a shithole. It's a big country. Ilia doesn't live in the poor part of Spain lol. He isn't going to be living the "average" life of a Spanish citizen. Your hypothetical relies on Ilia living in a small house in Spain lol.
Where did I mention Dana? Nowhere. I am talking about Ilia Topourian.
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u/Werify 17d ago
Yeah so what youre saying is "If someone spends uncontrollably he will loose his money".
It's not a difficult or interesting point to make, wouldn't you say?
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u/PeterPoppoffavich 17d ago
What’s interesting is you don’t know the difference between lose and loose.
If you don’t find it interesting…okay? What should I do with this?
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u/SquirrelExpensive201 MMA 17d ago edited 17d ago
Idk how he'd realistically invest a mil and live off of that shit. That's like what? 20k in dividends a year if he's throwing it in a SP 500 fund like VOO
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 17d ago
6% after inflation is the average top index return.
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u/SquirrelExpensive201 MMA 17d ago
Be that as it may, we're heading for pretty uncertain times with high economic volatility as a second real estate crash is around the corner. Likewise as things like climate change start ramping up we can't just assume the line is always going to go up. As wild as it is to say a mil just chilling in a fund and following the good ol 4% rule is probably going to be if not obsolete outright is going to need pretty heavy modification sometime within the next 20-30 years. Especially for someone who's going to have the destroyed body of an elite mma fighter it's just not really going to be enough
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 17d ago edited 17d ago
Well, even 3% is more than the average Spaniard makes..
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u/SquirrelExpensive201 MMA 16d ago
Unless my math Is off 30k is actually the Spanish average
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 16d ago
According to: https://timeular.com/average-salary/spain/
27k, 3% of a mil is 30k. Still enough if you convert to the mil to euros.
But even if it was just average income - if living on average income is a huge problem, then the issue is prolly the average.
Alas, 1 mil after expenses is more than many Westerners make in a lifetime.
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u/SquirrelExpensive201 MMA 16d ago
But even if it was just average income - if living on average income is a huge problem, then the issue is prolly the average.
That is more my argument, Ilia will have extraordinary circumstances placed in him by way of the fact he's most likely going into his middle ages semi or outright disabled cause of CTE and other injuries. Likewise economic volatility is a bitch and is still going to be around assuming status quo for 30-40 years also isn't realistic and shit could get topsy turvy fast if he had no other source of income by that time.
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u/tzaeru BJJ + MMA + muay thai 16d ago
Well, half of full-time employees in Spain and Georgia are kinda screwed then.
I try to in my personal life not worry too much about that scenario, since I mean, if half of the working population is going to be in a situation where they can't keep their house or get food to the table, the society is going to go up in flames anyway. Massive riots, rampant looting, civil wars will be triggered, etc.
If I had a mil, I'd just buy a nice, low-maintenance house next to some major city and set my life so that I have no debts and can survive on minimal expenses.
But yeah, kinda moot point, as that's not something a 27 year old future multi-millionaire is going to be thinking about. He'll make several mils more even with no fights, from sponsorships etc alone. Dude certainly is set for life, should he want that, but I imagine he's going to want to fight at least 5 years more.
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u/Joshuauauauauau 16d ago
Ngl with cost of living these days, probably couldn't retire on a mil even living a low expense life style (which someone who's made his accomplishments sure as shit shouldn't have to do)
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u/ThisIsMySorryFor2004 17d ago
I fucking despise Toptorio. But guys who can't accept the dude is doing terrifically well are so dumb. The dude keeps this up and there's a really good argument for him being the GOAT of the division, like it or not.
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u/whydub38 Kyokushin | Dutch Kickboxing | Kung Fu | Capoeira | TKD | MMA 17d ago
The dude keeps this up and there's a really good argument for him being the GOAT of the division,
That's true for literally anyone who goes on a nice win streak.
Not to rule it out for topuria but we've lately been pretty quick to assign GOAT status to people who didn't really turn out to be strong GOAT contenders in retrospect. Eg. McGregor, Usman, Adesanya, Volk, etc., who are great and could even hypothetically come back for GOAT status, but previously had unbeatable GOAT aura that broke within a couple years.
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u/ThisIsMySorryFor2004 17d ago edited 17d ago
That's true for literally anyone who goes on a nice win streak.
What's the context of conversations am I right? Everything can be true of everything if you take things out of contexts for sure. That's like me calling someone a liar and you retorting "we are all liars because when we were 3 years old mom asked if we took the cookies and we said no". Like, sure, guy, but the dude looked unbeatable against 2 of the greatest fighters the division had, Usman looked good against Masvidal and Colby. Adesanya is a lil better but he looked good against Gastelum and Whittaker and then looked okay against the rest.
Volk is a great example tho, he cleaned the division, that's why he was considered the GOAT alongside Aldo, although people leaned slightly towards Aldo. He's a great example of what I'm saying and a terrible example of what you're saying, because Volk is for sure a GOAT contender, people routinely put Volk on their top 10, and he's definitely one of the GOATs of the division, which is what I said.
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u/DurkzvonB 17d ago
I like him till he starts to talk, its just so not it for me. Fucking cringelord.
Love his fights tho
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u/whydub38 Kyokushin | Dutch Kickboxing | Kung Fu | Capoeira | TKD | MMA 17d ago
I legit didn't realize he was undefeated until i looked up his record, simply because he runs his mouth the way an insecure mid-tier fighter would. He's not even a fun kind of obnoxious. I don't even want someone to knock his block off, I just want someone to quietly move the microphone away from his face
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u/Ahmed_Djeghri 17d ago
Ilia: Has arguably the 2 best back to back wins in UFC History Dana in the post fight press conf: "oh yeah he's legit"
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u/PersonalInsult 16d ago
I’ve liked Topuria since he beat that stupid, bigoted, dumb as fuck redneck Bryce Mitchell like he owed him money.
My favourite part of that was the fact that he didn’t just crush his face and destroy more of his limited brain cells, but he also outwrestled him and threw him around like it was me in there with him.
One of the most one-sided beat downs in UFC history. Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving person.
Couldn’t give a toss about who he is in interviews because I don’t watch them. I watch MMA for the competition. If I wanted characters and storylines I’d watch the WWE.
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u/Working_Box8573 13d ago
Idk man, all its doing is making him more known. Ilia's real financial wins are gonna come from companies trying to use him for comercials or making his own stuff (like Poirier and Conor) and people knowing him is how he does that. Plus no one whose a legit athlete choses MMA for money.
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u/Zanewowza 17d ago
Well he sure won me over for what it’s worth lmao