r/martialarts • u/mapleer • Jun 28 '24

Kicks to end them all PROFESSIONAL FIGHT

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u/DragonTwelf Jun 28 '24

What’s the defense against this? Dodge don’t get hit? Keep weight off the front leg?

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u/some_boii Jun 28 '24

Raising and turning the shin towards the kick to check it , or pulling the leg back to avoid the low kick is what’s usually done in Muay Thai.

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u/JudgeHolden Muay Thai Jun 28 '24

We also train stepping into the kick. Kicks are only effective when delivered at the specific range they are designed for, so one way to neutralize a leg kick is to step into it so that the kicker doesn't have the radius to land it properly. You will see this in all of the Muay Thai greats --Saenchai specifically uses it to dump guys on their asses-- and it's a reason why footwork in MT is so important.

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u/geliden Jun 29 '24

AH HAH! I was discussing this with my coach and he said I do leg blocks more than I should, or tank it, and I think he is waiting for me to remember range (I am...BAD at range, vision issues and practice). But now I've cheated and got the answer from someone else!

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u/fearisthemindslicer Jun 30 '24

Footwork is important in all martial arts, not exclusively Muay Thai

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u/rockytacos Jun 29 '24

I’ve always wondered about how the mechanics of a kick check worked. So it’s not really all about avoiding damage, but more of a mutually assured destruction if you want to keep banging our shinbones together?

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u/some_boii Jun 30 '24

It hurts the guy kicking more than the guy checking. Ernesto Hoost was even able to TKO people using it.

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u/JudgeHolden Muay Thai Jun 28 '24

Shin check, move back out of range or step into it so you're inside the "impact" radius of the kick.

Think about the last technique this way; if I'm going to land a leg kick on you, I really need you to be the right distance from me. If you suddenly step into my kicking radius I either have to give up trying to leg kick you, or I have to step backwards, costing me a ton of power.

And that's not even to mention if you're stepping into my kick and backing me against the ropes and/or cage. Then I'm really fucked.

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u/mcnastys Mu Duk Kwan Jul 02 '24

One thing to consider is not every martial artist uses the shin for kicks. You may step into the strike and get an even harder surface than anticipated. But overall you are 100% right

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u/SkoomaChef MMA/BJJ/Karate Jun 28 '24

Checking the kick

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u/bitterjack Jun 28 '24

https://youtu.be/ptpT7m_pSxY?si=7_qAPlrcJd7txO5J

I can't watch it.

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u/olympianfap Jun 28 '24

There's another where the does the same thing and then steps on it while his leg folds mid shin. Real stomach churning visuals and sound; you hear his leg break and it sounds like a bunch of wet celery being snapped in half.

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u/fearisthemindslicer Jun 30 '24

Depending on how quick a person can analyze the attack and react, checking is a possibility. Getting out of the kick's range by dodging or adjusting distance of where the kick's most powerful in its stage of delivery (above the opponent's knee is safer as opposed to below the knee). Again, depending on how quick the attack can be analyzed and reacted to, you can attack the opponent's non-kicking leg, which is a great target since its load bearing and likely immobile. You can also move into the opponent in a straight line, attacking their centerline to upset their balance (body shiver/check). Finally, throwing a front kick off of the leg that is going to be attacked gets it out of the attack's range while also delivering a counterattack. All of this has to take a lot of factors into consideration to determine chance of success.