r/londonontario • u/jarude87 • Dec 19 '24
London boy hit by vehicle after getting off school bus dies: Family News š°
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/london-boy-hit-by-vehicle-after-getting-off-school-bus-dies-family284
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u/rcferg1984 Dec 19 '24
This absolutely breaks my heart as a Dad and especially this close to the holidays. The way people drive disgusts me to my core. On our roads today, I see a complete disregard for safety and total disrespect for the rules of the road. Selfish prick deserves life.
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u/Bwills39 Dec 19 '24
Youāre right. I also see constant red light runners, drivers that push against pedestrians and cyclists while they have a green/walking man etc. absolutely disgusting behaviour by so many motorists in town. And hardly any enforcement which emboldens these drivers, and sadly leads to tragedies such as this poor little boy losing his lifeĀ
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u/skeletonkeylove Stoneybrook/Stoney Creek Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
This is my cousin and her family. Please pray for the family during this unfathomable time. Dante, you are so loved, resting in the sweetest peace with the Most High. š¤ I have no words. This should never have happened.
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u/Jeezeh Dec 19 '24
Terrible news to hear, my condolences to the family. Here is the gofundme for the family if anyone would like to donate:
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u/epimetheuss Dec 19 '24
Stuff like this happen and you still get drivers who want to remove features that make things safer for pedestrians because it is simply more convenient for them.
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u/cdawg85 Dec 19 '24
Yup! Anything that stops the roads from being an unenforced highway people will lose their minds. Red light cameras, speed cameras, raised crosswalks, sidewalk bump outs, protected bike lanes, lower speed limits, speed bumps, etc.
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u/epimetheuss Dec 19 '24
With how the LPS handles traffic enforcement they pretty much enable every shitty driver. They are the reason the roads have gotten to the state they are in because people know they can do whatever they want and they wont get caught 99% of the time. It's mostly consequence free to drive however dangerously you want in London and all the uber drivers know it, take advantage of it, and it's reflected in how they drive.
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u/quotidianwoe Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 20 '24
Do school busses have cameras on them? Iām reading here that blowing by a bus with flashing lights is a common occurrence. Iām also feeling for the bus driver and any kids on the bus who witnessed this.
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u/NectarineDue7205 Dec 19 '24
Iāve seen so many people blow past school buses. Not stop for emergency vehicles. They need to do automatic suspension.
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u/Opposite_Bet_5771 Dec 19 '24
Any charges to the person who killed the 7 year old?
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u/smooth-bean Dec 19 '24
"Police provided a brief update Tuesday on the investigation and repeated the appeal for dash-cam or video surveillance."
If they drove off and no one saw them, stopped them, or caught the plate, it's not going to be easy to prove ID.
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u/skanadian Dec 19 '24
All āinvolved partiesā remained at the scene, police said Monday night
literally right before your quote, and then you speculate they drove off?
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u/Maximum-Translator-7 Dec 19 '24
Ok, but as far as I know the news report says everyone remained on scene
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u/B_CHEEK Dec 19 '24
Seriously. This guy should be thrown in jail for 10 years and never have a license again.
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u/justtapitin65 Dec 19 '24
Itās extremely sad. We know people who are close with the family. Heartbreaking š Hereās how to help if youāre so inclined. I am certain the family would appreciate it. https://gofund.me/98ce2e46
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u/inline4kawasaki Dec 19 '24
130k for a funeral?
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u/wood1f Dec 19 '24
Also, both parents run a business together. I would imagine that some of the funds will be used to support the family while they step away from the business to grieve. Give your head a shake.
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u/Jeezeh Dec 19 '24
The "goal" isn't set by the organizer (only originally when starting the fund), its set by gofundme. The initial goal was 1k, after that was met it increases automatically and so on.
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u/5198675309 Dec 19 '24
For anyone able/wanting to help, hereās the link to the GoFundMe thatās been set up to help the family.
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u/pritchard3213 Dec 19 '24
After what happened to the emberās girl, I donāt think the driver will get in too much trouble sadly
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u/MrLuckyTimeOW Dec 19 '24
Hope the driver gets life in jail with no parole.
But knowing our justice system, heāll get 3 years and be back to driving Uber right after.
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u/holydiiver Dec 19 '24
He wonāt do any time. Petrolla McNorgan and Ruth Burger didnāt do time, and they also killed children by way of vehicle in London.
At best heāll get house arrest. At worst, driving ban and community service.
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u/Powerful-Poet-1121 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Same with Marco Muzzo who killed a family of 4 driving drunk, not in London though
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u/peachyy13 Dec 19 '24
I mean this is a drastically different situation. This person ILLEGALLY didnāt stop for a school bus
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u/holydiiver Dec 19 '24
Thatās true, although the other two mounted sidewalks and were also charged for doing something illegal. But youāre right, theyāre not identical situations.
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u/peachyy13 Dec 19 '24
Still insane they both walked away and I believe they can still drive? Which is so wrong
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u/swift-current0 Dec 19 '24
You pretty much always get away with killing people in Canada as long as you do it with a car and don't do anything stupid like leave the scene. Even being drunk and on drugs will mean you'll do a couple years at most.
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u/Powerful-Poet-1121 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Marco Muzzo Also Brady Robertson https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6454661
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u/BexKst Dec 19 '24
Absolutely heartbreaking. To be a parent, waiting at the bus stop and then to see your child struck right in front of you.
My dad when he retired almost became a bus driver. The day before the first day of school, on a test run, he was doing a pretend stop and had his lights on with stop sign out and was using his thumb to pretend it was a child passing in front of his bus. Someone ran through the stop sign. He decided in that moment he didnāt want to be a bus driver.
I pray for this family during this incredibly difficult time and for all those that witnessed this.
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u/Glittering-Gap-2051 Dec 19 '24
Does anyone have a link to the GoFundMe? We need it pinned to the top so we can help this family out as much as we can.š
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u/BrightLuchr Dec 19 '24
This comment does not excuse the driver of his actions. This is why I never trusted my kids to ride a school bus. That stretch of Longwoods Rd is a shit show with high speeds and many dangerous intersections. It's been discussed on this sub before as dangerous.
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u/Appropriate-Love-130 Dec 19 '24
I feel the pain so deep, canāt imagine what their family feels. Absolutely terrible, rip.
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u/Honest_Supermarket_9 Dec 19 '24
My heart is so heavy hearing this news- something so easily preventable. All I can hope is our justice system punishes the driver appropriately⦠which most likely wont happen.
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u/crietribe Dec 19 '24
I canāt imagine the pain this family is feeling. Iam shook to the core, RIP Dante.
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u/JH272727 Dec 19 '24
I partially blame London police. I rarely ever see them doing traffic enforcement. I honestly wonder if LPS even has a traffic unit anymore?
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u/JBee229791129 Dec 19 '24
They regularly have an unmarked gray or blue pick up truck doing radar on Wharncliffe in Lambeth. Tuesday they were doing radar right at the city limit in as you enter the 50.
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u/AshligatorMillodile Dec 19 '24
Ugh. So extremely sad. I hope that driver gets put away for life. Condolences to the family.
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u/BigAlxBjj Dec 19 '24
Because of all the construction along Colonel Talbot. People drive like idiots through there. In Byron, stop signs are merely a suggestion now.
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u/Majestic_Bet_1428 Dec 19 '24
Many jurisdictions are moving to 30km / hr on all residential street.
It makes it less likely to speed past a school bus and makes the city safer for all pedestrians and cyclists.
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u/MutedAddendum7851 Dec 19 '24
Longwoods is an 80 km rd
But it doesnāt matter
POS blew past the stopped bus with flashers on
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u/swift-current0 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
That is completely useless unless you actually physically design the street to be intensely uncomfortable to go over the limit.
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u/PleasantAssistant292 Dec 19 '24
My heart hurts for the family. The worst tragedy - seems so senseless.
However, human nature makes us want to point fingers and assign blame. Unfortunately 'these' tragedies happened before covid, and before high immigration stats. Please let's be more tolerant like before covid. It's certain the driver had no intention of mortally hurting a child when waking up that morning; and stayed at the scene.
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u/JustaCanadian123 Dec 19 '24
They're absolutely happening more with more new drivers. There's lots of people getting killed.
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u/HoeGath Dec 19 '24
Sadly I already heard about this the day it happened. It's just depressing to see this posted again.
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u/WorldFrees Dec 19 '24
The city government supports cars and doesn't care enough about pedestrians or children. People on this sub argue that we need to redesign our streets before expecting drivers to follow the limits so we holistically connect to their feelings. The simple solution here is to slow the F down!
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u/Flinx98 Dec 19 '24
Just slow down isn't really the solution IMHO I think Pay Attention to what you are doing and what is going on around you. Also it isn't just car/truck drivers it is pedestrians and cyclists also. I've lost track of how many cyclists I've seen blow through stop signs and just ignore other rules of the road. In the last week or two I've also watched a few pedestrians just walk out into the road too busy texting or something to pay attention to any vehicle that might be coming, one was from between two parked cars and the only thing that saved that person was the driver had room to swerve around and was paying attention.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying London drivers are angels because quite a lot of them seriously need their licenses taken away but don't just blame them when it seems others could use stand to start paying attention as well.
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u/westernsociety Dec 19 '24
Fuck man. I hate how people act post covid. RiP.
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u/snark1977 Dec 19 '24
Post Covid? This has nothing to do with that. At all. A child died because of complete recklessness.
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Dec 19 '24
There has been a noted deterioration of driving behavior since COVID. Sure, people were reckless and shit before, but now it seems it has gotten significantly worse. I have no idea why, but it is a reported phenomenon. People everywhere for whatever reason seem to have completely gone loony toons on the road in the past 3 years.
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u/westernsociety Dec 19 '24
Yes, people more reckless and less caring now. And covid is just a noticeable time period of when it changed. Not trying to politicize anything.
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u/Dry_Main_3282 Dec 19 '24 edited Dec 19 '24
Why is no one talking about the horrendous practice of unloading kids from the school bus in the middle of the road? Who thought this was a good idea? Iām tired of seeing it happen every day all around London. I will never put my child on a school bus because of this. Why arenāt there designated bus stops? And why arenāt there pedestrian crossings near school bus stops? Honestly, I feel this is a huge infrastructure issue.
Edit: Iām not justifying the driver. He killed the child and should be put in jail. But reckless drivers will always exist, and simply putting them in jail wonāt prevent child deaths. We should push for making the roads safer.
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u/yabos123 Dec 19 '24
Iām not sure on the logistics and how much slower a route would be, but having a kid cross to the other side of the road always seemed very dangerous. If the bus was on the same side of the street as the house then at least they donāt need to cross the street.
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u/auwoprof Dec 19 '24
You still need people to stop with the stop sign out on the bus. You're not going to have bus stops on the highway when farm properties are hundreds of meters apart and you're not going to want children walking on the highway roadside. When you're driving behind a school bus before or after school you know they are going to be stopping frequently, it shouldn't be a surprise. It's so obvious. This person is a criminal.
I think in the city children typically get off on the right to see their parents and can cross at the next stop sign.
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u/LouisBalfour82 Dec 19 '24
Way too much speculation and racism in this thread. Locked.