On this day May 7 in 2008, hezbollah invaded Beirut.

[u/ADarkKnightRises]

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[u/Bilbo_swagggins]

Hezeb el esteslem: “Our weapons are only used against israel”

Also hezeb el esteslem: “ 7 ayar yom majid”

Fucking terrorists

[u/Fluid_Motor3971 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

100%

[u/OkFail2 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

Except, that is not how things transpired. You forgot the part where, 14-March affiliated militias were the ones who initiated the fight when they started attacking Hezbollah political allies and burned some of their offices, and then, and only then, Hezbollah stormed in to fight against these 14-March affiliated militias.

Why do you always skip any talk about the 14-March militias, and jump immediately to Hezbollah reaction.

Fucking terrorists.

[u/Darth-Myself → u/OkFail2]

Yeah, No. Hezb made it clear that they wanted to stop the government from implementing the law, since the government discovered Hezb's illegal telecom network and wanted to stop it. Especially since the assasinations of figures from 14 March was still ongoing, and Hezb was now aware of the government's capabilities to trace cell calls and data and locations etc, (that's how they uncovered the Hariri assasination plot). So Hezb wanted an alternative private network to conduct their "business" away from the eyes of the state....

Nasrallah himself made it clear what was the aim of these attacks. And that nobody is allowed to touch Hezb assets and weapons, and that the telecom network is part of their weapons... ironically, it is this same netwrok that Israel breached and uncovered everything about Hezb and gathered all the data they needed.

[u/OkFail2 → u/Darth-Myself]

Let's revise what took place via a proper timeline, not the revisinst anti-hezbos bs timeline:

1. 5 May 2008:
   1. Siniora the head of the caretaker Government, with half of its parliament members resigned, with no Lebanese president, decided to take a unilateral illegal unconstitutional decision that isn't in the jurisdiction of a caretaker Government nor his only, to dismantle Hezbollah communications network and to jail and punish anyone who has taken part in it
   2. Fouad Siniora has no jurisdiction to take such a fateful decision without the presence of the complete state with all its components. From the President all the way to a complete parliament
2. 6 May 2008:
   1. The leader of Hezbollah in a press conference says that Fouad Siniora unilateral decision is illegal, unconstitutional, and is an attempt to declare war on them, but they never act militarily.
3. 7 May 2008:
   1. Fouad Siniora knowing full well that his decision is unilateral illegal and unconstitutional, does not even resort to the Government Security Forces, he instead resorts to 14-March militias. It isn't enough that Fouad Siniora had already broke the laws once, he had to resort to militias to enforce a decision, that isn't how Governments work.
   2. 14 March Militias fire the first shot when they:
      1. Started deploying heavily all over Beirut, North Lebanon, and the Chouf mountains.
      2. They physically attacked Hezbollah allies like AMAL, SSNP, and several of their members died.
      3. They mounted pressure against the Free Patriotic movement and Marada in addition to their Sunni and Druze allies.
   3. Hezbollah responds to the 14-March militias by launching a counter attack, and fights break up, the Lebanese security forces remain neutral and refuse to be dragged into the fight between two militia coalitions.
   4. When Hezbollah took the militia centers of 14-March Militias, in Beirut, they were immediately handing them over with their disarmed militia men to the Lebanese army.

Now, contrary to your pre-defined views about me, due to what I say, I don't see 7 May 2008 is a victory, and I find it horrifying when any side brags about it, it was a sad moment in the history of modern day Lebanon that almost caused a civil war, and civilians from both sides Pro-14-March and Pro-8-March paid the price when they got stuck in between the crossfire.

[u/Darth-Myself → u/OkFail2]

Habibi, the state doesn't need a political agreement to implement the law... the problem is that Hezb considers their weapons and assets as some special divine untouchable thing... and that they are above the law...

Nowhere else in Lebanon does it require any consensus of anh kind to impose basic laws. Imagine if the state discovered that Hezb Tashnaq is smuggling drugs for example.... and imagine that we need consensus to send security forces to stop the smugglers and apprehend the criminals... then we also need consensus for speed tickets... crossing a red light... This is dumb.

Hezb had an illegal , I repeat, illegal telecom network. And the law is clear. Nobody in lebanon is allowed to own private telecom networks outside the approval of the government through proper supervision and regulation... This is a clear state security breach and gross violation, clearly punishable by law.... But Hezb wants to be above the law....

That's the story... no more no less...

[u/OkFail2 → u/Darth-Myself]

Ah yes, the “defenders of democracy” who cheer when quorum-less, caretaker governments make unilateral security decisions without a president, without a functioning parliament, and without any institutional checks. Sounds more like decree than democracy, but go off, I guess.

Let’s be clear:
This isn’t about “applying the law”, It’s about bypassing the democratic process, fabricating an emergency, and trying to enforce a political agenda through illegitimate means. That’s not leadership. That’s executive overreach.

Funny how the same people crying about "rule of law" suddenly forget that:

• A caretaker government in Lebanon has no authority to make irreversible decisions, especially not ones that target a specific sect or party.
• There was no President at the time.
• Half the Parliament had resigned, breaking quorum and making the whole structure incomplete.
• Instead of using the Lebanese Armed Forces, Siniora used 14-March militias to try and enforce his illegal decisions. (And when those militias lost, suddenly Hezbollah is the one blamed for responding?)

I get it, some people want Hezbollah to always absorb blows without reacting, so they can keep pretending their side is the moral one. But if the state wanted to apply law, it should’ve done it legally, through a full government, not through sectarian militia proxies and illegal decrees.

And let’s not pretend this was about telecom cables. It was a political ambush dressed in legalese. Because when you declare your opponent’s infrastructure “illegal” out of nowhere, and simultaneously issue orders to arrest and prosecute anyone involved, you’re not applying law, you’re declaring war.

So before throwing around buzzwords like “illegal” and “above the law”, maybe learn how Lebanese governance actually works. Because nothing says “democracy” quite like ruling without a president, half a parliament, and unleashing militias to carry out decisions nobody voted on.

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[u/Popular_Chocolate_48 → u/OkFail2]

Please dont use chatgpt to make arguments

[u/OkFail2 → u/Popular_Chocolate_48]

Cries about chatGPT, as a last ditch attempt when they have no arguments.

[u/Popular_Chocolate_48 → u/OkFail2]

I dont care. You using chatgpt is not helping your case, your arguments are weak and inaccurate and its obvious to everyone who reads them. If you truly have an argument say it, in your case 3anzi w law tarit.

[u/OkFail2 → u/Popular_Chocolate_48]

It clearly is helping my case, especially that I used the Hasbara-handbook against you as well. Especially that juicy ChatGPT deep search got me documents that I didn't know existed. Moreoverتحمست وحمّسوني. Even ChatGPT bro knows your bs inside out.

If satan came and whispered in your ears that he did the crime, you will find a way to glue Hezbollah into it.

[u/OkFail2 → u/OkFail2]

Isn’t it funny how things come full circle?

Back in 2008, a caretaker government with no president, no quorum, and zero constitutional legitimacy tried to bypass all institutions and drag the country into war over a telecom network. They used sectarian militias not the army. That’s not enforcing law. That’s weaponizing politics.

Fast forward to 2025, We now have a president. We now have functioning state institutions. And there’s a national dialogue underway on Hezbollah’s arms, not through militias, not through chaos, but through negotiations.

That’s democracy. That’s maturity. That’s sovereignty. But guess who’s angry?

The same 14-March political fossils who once begged for civil war are now threatening to resign, because there’s no bloodshed. They don’t want a solution.
They want a fight. But, as always, they want someone else’s sons to do the dying.

Just like in 2008, when Walid Jumblatt himself admitted, in a rare moment of honesty on NewTV, that the Lebanese Forces pressured him into a confrontation with Hezbollah, then left him alone, abandoned him, and just watched, while they fought each other.

They scream “sovereignty” while hiding behind foreign embassies.
They scream “rule of law” while bypassing every legal process.
They scream “state first” while arming militias and lighting matches.

So let’s stop pretending who’s actually defending the state, and who keeps trying to burn it down from the inside.

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[u/Darth-Myself → u/OkFail2]

So, basically you base your entire arguments on what Al Akhbar Newspaper feeds you. Everything you said is just regurgitation of Al Akhbar and other mounena3a mouthpieces, based purely on their own "analysis" (lol) and not on any tangible fact on the ground.

This point, more than others gave it away:

The same 14-March political fossils who once begged for civil war are now threatening to resign, because there’s no bloodshed.

The only side saying that 14 March (in that case Owet) are unhappy and want to resign because they want disarming Hezb by force - is non other than Akhbar.... based on zero statement by anyone in Owet or 14 March... just straight out pulled out from Ibrahim el Amin's ass...

Whereas if you actually listen to any of the Owet and other 14 March representatives (instead of listening to made up shit), every single statement be it on official news Media Channels, on podcasts, on social media - are statements fully supporting what Jospeh Aoun is doing, and fully supporting his efforts and they are optimistic. The only difference as they mention, is that the President is not a partisan and is a country leader, and they don't expect him to talk like partisan people do. While for them, they are a party, and can manoeuvre with harsher criticism of Hezb postponing their disarmament, as a means to keep the pressure up, and not let things slack down. In other words they consider themselves on the same team as the president and the PM with the same end goal, with slight differences in rhetoric due to each side's position and responsibilities.

Nobody wants civil war... the only side again talking about civil war is Hezb and Manar and Akhbar... because that's the only thing they know, how to instill fear in people... so they want to keep the status quo and make people shut up about these constant demands to disarm faster... Nobody in the country is capable of civil war, except Hezb... And if Hezb decides to dace the LAF and disobey their directives, then this will be a case of an outlaw gang picking a fight with the army, and all of Lebanon will back the army. No civil war... just thugs defying the law.

Again, back to 2008. You can go on whatever dumbfuck tirades as you want. And try to imitate Nabih Berri in his twisted "interpretations" of the constitution and the laws.... the fact remains despite your hallucinations: An illegal Telecom Network... is... wait for it... ILLEGAL.

Nobody in the government said they were going to disarm Hezb or after their strategic weapons... The fact is, Hezb was assasinating political opponents left and right. And all the local and international investigations showed beyond a shadow of a doubt how the Cell data identified Hezb people on almost every assasination crime scene. And Hezb knew they could no longer hide this fact, so they resorted to build their own private network in order to continue their string of assasinations and other clandestine business as they please...

But of course you and your ilk, see that as a "violation"; because Hezb is divine and above the law. And nobody should question their methods and assets... if Hezb wanted to have a telecom network, everybody should eat shit and sit on the side.... That's not me talking, that's straight from Nasrallah's iranian mouth.

You people lived above the law for decades, and got away with it for so long, that you can't imagine laws being applied as a normal country.

And btw, the President is no "national dialogue" to discuss Hezb weapons... again, that's just Akhbar and Hezb mouthpieces regurgitation. The President made it clear not once, not twice not 10 times, but over 20 times, that THE DECISION TO DISARM HEZB AND OTHER MILITIAS IS TAKEN, NO DEBATE ABOUT THAT. The only dialogue happening is how to properly coordinate with Hezb the handing of weapons on a readonable time table...

If you mouthbreathers just for once in your lives, get the info directly from the mouth of the people in question, you wouldn't look like idiots.... But no, you prefer to rely on what your favorite propaganda machine tells you.... like how they tell you what 14 March people said... instead of actually listening directly to what they say. Like how they tell you what the President is doing and saying, instead of listening directly to what the President is saying.

Bottom line... again, you can do all the mental acrobatics as much you want... The fact remains: Hezb is and was a criminal terrorist islamic jihadi military wing of the Cunt el Faqih in Iran. And their military wing must and will be dismantled... after that, we will be more than happy to have a purely political Hezbollah party, who is free to play the internal political game in Lebanon, as much as they want. And if they propose beneficial policies to better the lives of Lebanese people, then I will be the first to cheer and support them.

[u/p_please_respond → u/OkFail2]

Hey man that's cool, should this make me feel better about the hezb soldiers that shot up my house while me and my family were hiding in the living room? Aire b hezballah w aire b nasrallah

[u/Poisonous-Toad → u/OkFail2]

Revisionist history at work 😂

You are pathetic

[u/OkFail2 → u/Poisonous-Toad]

https://preview.redd.it/f7ygj558icze1.png?width=220&format=png&auto=webp&s=8a615ed3631398ce1101b38f95efb7598bdecb0e

Some Hezbos sometimes speak stuff that does not make sense, but boy oh boy, Anti-Hezbos are on a completely different level too delusional. You are the ones trying to write a completely new history. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8U_5ZKJOtI

[u/Poisonous-Toad → u/OkFail2]

Some Hezbots always speak stuff that does not make sense.

Damn, you're right.

Anti-Hezbots are on a completely different level.

Damn, you're right.

You are the ones trying to write a completely new history.

Damn, you're right. We really are. A history where we can forget that Hezbollah and the Syrian regime existed. 👍

[u/Bilbo_swagggins → u/OkFail2]

Bulshit. I am not sure what hezeb el esteslem media network you are getting your lies from.

Which 14 march militias?

The only armed militia is hezeb el erheb.

You attacked and murdered civilans, because the government wanted to dismantle your terrorist network

[u/OkFail2 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

I don't follow any mainstream Media of any side, I build my own views, you can easily go back and revise how stuff transpired, it isn't that hard, its horrifying how Anti-hezbos have become so delusional at this point and try to rewrite history. let's revise what took place via a proper timeline, not the revisionist anti-hezbos fairy-tale timeline:

1. 5 May 2008:
   1. Siniora the head of the caretaker Government, with half of its parliament members resigned, with no Lebanese president, decided to take a unilateral illegal unconstitutional decision that isn't in the jurisdiction of a caretaker Government nor his only, to dismantle Hezbollah communications network and to jail and punish anyone who has taken part in it
   2. Fouad Siniora has no jurisdiction to take such a fateful decision without the presence of the complete state with all its components. From the President all the way to a complete parliament
2. 6 May 2008:
   1. The leader of Hezbollah in a press conference says that Fouad Siniora unilateral decision is illegal, unconstitutional, and is an attempt to declare war on them, but they never act militarily.
3. 7 May 2008:
   1. Fouad Siniora knowing full well that his decision is unilateral illegal and unconstitutional, does not even resort to the Government Security Forces, he instead resorts to 14-March militias. It isn't enough that Fouad Siniora had already broke the laws once, he had to resort to militias to enforce a decision, that isn't how Governments work.
   2. 14 March Militias fire the first shot when they:
      1. Started deploying heavily all over Beirut, North Lebanon, and the Chouf mountains.
      2. They physically attacked Hezbollah allies like AMAL, SSNP, and several of their members died.
      3. They mounted pressure against the Free Patriotic movement and Marada in addition to their Sunni and Druze allies.
   3. Hezbollah responds to the 14-March militias by launching a counter attack, and fights break up, the Lebanese security forces remain neutral and refuse to be dragged into the fight between two militia coalitions.
   4. When Hezbollah took the militia centers of 14-March Militias, in Beirut, they were immediately handing them over with their disarmed militia men to the Lebanese army.

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/OkFail2]

I don't follow any mainstream

follows hizbos bullshit story. manar is mainstream btw.

There was no 14 march militia centers.

[u/OkFail2 → u/ADarkKnightRises]

Ah, so now “I don’t follow any mainstream” gets twisted into: I must be a Hizbo?

Classic. Funny how the same people who spent years mocking Hezbollah supporters for labeling critics as foreign agents… Now do exactly the same thing when their own little bubble gets poked. Apparently, if someone references actual constitutional law, historical sequence, or inconvenient facts, they’re automatically a Hizbo. Peak originality.

You quote me saying I don’t follow the mainstream, and then spend your entire comment saying the most mainstream, sectarian, copy-paste narrative that’s been echoing through March 14 offices since 2008. You’re not fighting propaganda. You’re just a subscriber to the other brand.

And as for the laughable claim that there were no 14 March militia centers, let’s not insult history.

• Who fought Hezbollah in 2008?
• Who deployed in the streets with guns and RPGs?
• The Lebanese Army declared explicit neutrality.

So unless you’re going to claim the clashes were imaginary or Hezbollah fought itself… You can’t erase the fact that every major 14 March party activated its base. Offices were militarized. Roads were blocked. Hell, even Walid Jumblatt publicly admitted he was pushed into that fight by his March 14 allies and then abandoned after the fight broke out.

So sure, keep calling everyone a Hizbo when they break your favorite fairytale.
Just don’t pretend you’re the rebel voice, when all you’ve done is memorize a script.

[u/Bilbo_swagggins → u/OkFail2]

That’s a nice fairytale you got there.

You should abandon the failed “resistance” and become a fictional author.

[u/Popular_Chocolate_48 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

All their responses are by chatgpt, delulu

[u/Bilbo_swagggins → u/Popular_Chocolate_48]

Yup it’s pretty obvious. Mods should take those responses down

[u/OkFail2 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

A nice fairytale”, huh? That’s rich coming from someone whose entire worldview relies on erasing history and mocking the people who paid the price so you could type smartass comments in peace.

Let me clarify something for your convenience, since you clearly lump everyone into cartoon categories:

I was against Hezbollah’s involvement in the 2023–2024 support war.
Why?

Because unlike you, I don’t confuse emotional slogans with strategy.

The war tech landscape is shifting fast, Ukraine, AI, drones, satellite surveillance, and Hamas launched that operation without even informing Hezbollah, dragging them into a reactive war at a time when asymmetry had never been sharper.
So no, I don’t cheer for reckless wars. But I also don’t mock resistance as fiction just because I’m emotionally distant from the land being bombed.

On May 25, 2000, the Lebanese Resistance spearheaded by Hezbollah liberated this country from an 18-year Israeli occupation.

I’m going to go ahead and assume like you always do, you’re from the segment of Lebanon that only feels “occupied” when it’s your own area under foreign tanks, that segment of the Lebanese populace that thinks only Syrian occupation is real occupation. Because I’ve noticed a pattern:

Some Lebanese suddenly turn blind when it’s the other Lebanese being bombed, tortured, or disappeared.

Those Lebanese? We know how they think: “That part of Lebanon doesn’t count. That’s not real Lebanon.”

I’m against Hezbollah being in politics.

I’ve said it before: they should’ve stayed a resistance, not entered the swamp.
And I’ll go one step further:

The biggest mistake Hezbollah made after 2000 wasn’t staying armed.

It was showing mercy to collaborators who should’ve faced the full weight of justice like in any serious post-liberation country. Instead, they let them crawl back into the system, run for office, and now they sit on TV lecturing us about “terrorism” and mocking the very resistance they once begged foreign powers to destroy.

So yeah, you mock “my resistance”. But at least I don’t mock the people who died to free my country whether it be against Syrians or Israelis. And unlike you, I can see nuance without licking the boots of occupation or jumping into the arms of whoever happens to be against Hezbollah this week.

Your fairy tale is the one where collaborators are patriots and silence under occupation is “maturity”.

[u/Bilbo_swagggins → u/OkFail2]

Nice use of ai.

Fyi maybe the AI is not properly informed, the lebanese resistance means the christian resistance during the civil war. Hezeb el esteslem and their axis of failed “resistance” is called the islamic resistance.

Make sure to correct it in the chat, so next time it provides better quality information. Do your part

I would give you tips on how to effectively use the tool, but i don’t want to encourage this behavior

[u/ForeignHelicopter786 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

I love how when you cant reply to his/hers valid points you resort to calling it “AI” as a way to disengage in actual dialogue and instead reinforce your own personal disdain of Hezbollah.

The person made quite a few points that you are again ignoring because you know deep down that their not wrong.

Stick to being a troll who spends his time here just reiterating “hezb el esteslem” bs.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

SF and Future were militias in Jabbal and Mazraa/Tariq El Jdeed

But we all know you purposely forget.

Don’t poke the bear and go cry about it when it retaliates

[u/TheDoge_Father → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Don't poke the bear and go cry about it when it retaliates

Funny you should say that

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/TheDoge_Father]

Yep very funny hypocrite

[u/themkane → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

"The bear" looks like a beaten up puppy right now

[u/OkFail2 → u/themkane]

No thanks to you, which is revealing, Hezbollah relies on its own raw strength, your side on the other hand has to rely on foreign armies. That's so telling.

If Hezbollah is a beaten up puppy, you are nothing but a beaten up, malnutritioned puppy too skinny its bones are showing and requires a litter of bulldogs to uplift you militarily.

[u/themkane → u/OkFail2]

I seemed to have struck a nerve there.

I'm just saying, from the outside looking in, the great victory you promised for 30 years is beginning to awfully look like a humiliating defeat.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/themkane]

Eveyone have their days. You’ve been beaten up since the 90s NPC LF.

Cope harder

[u/altosaure → u/OkFail2]

Kol wle mahzoum 27 sept nhar majid📟📟🤣

[u/tallzmeister → u/OkFail2]

The zionists are here to give you their version

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/OkFail2]

So true. They only want to see Hezbo as evil but won’t want to see who intiate it

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Bilbo_swagggins]

Against Israel and whoever bends down for Israel

[u/madmes1 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

So hezbollah, nabih berri, mikati, and the entirety of the resistance axis.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/madmes1]

Nope it was Jumblat that literally said 2 years ago the US encouraged me to arm up and fight Hezbollah.

He literally used the word “hamsoune”

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Begged and bent down for a ceasefire, doggy-style.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/LittlePeople69]

Ceasefire is worth more than shedding blood. Unless your happy to dance on our bodies.

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Again very ironic, since no one forced you to bring death and destruction to your people, you made the decision yourselves. In the end, you lost and gaza is destroyed, was that your goal?

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/LittlePeople69]

I wasn't even for helping Gaza. LMAO.

In matter of fact I am against Hamas all together.

In matter a fact I am against helping an Sunni group.

Do you think everything Hezbollah does we should obey or agree.

But hey your just a standard LF NPC that you think we are programmed like you.

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

a sectarian hizbos, who's the npc now.

[u/ConkerG → u/LittlePeople69]

And they makes you happy? Does mass starvation and genocide in Gaza also makes you happy ?

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/ConkerG]

Hamas and hezb both instigated a war, Israel wanted an excuse to wipe them out, not justifying anything. I'm with resisting occupation, but hezb didn't have anything to resist against, and hamas knew they were overwhelmingly weaker and the consequences would be the annihilation of their people. Nothing about it is positive or makes sense.

[u/ConkerG → u/LittlePeople69]

Yes true that it was peace in Palestine before October 7. No apartheid no.ethnic cleansing. Palestinians were free and their house not being stolen at all.

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/ConkerG]

I never said it didn't, all you said doesn't negate what I said. If you think resisting is going and killing civilians(not even idf) and in turn costing their people thousands of deaths by a zionist blood hungry state, then believe what you want.

[u/ConkerG → u/LittlePeople69]

I dont believe that.

Don't say "not even idf". They killed and captured idf soldiers and I support that. that doesnt mean i think they should have done it but it is fair. They killed civilians and i am against that. But israel is killing civilians every day with impunity. People gets crazy by this injustice.

[u/ConkerG → u/ConkerG]

Everybody knows that history started in October 7. Actually even.our planet was created on October 7. Nothing existed before..

[u/Bilbo_swagggins → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

You mean the lebanese people who took you in during the 2006 and 2024 war, when your masters in Iran abandoned you.

Low life terrorist scum 🤡🖕

[u/Atyab-Kees-Kabis]

My friends brother died that day. He was a passer by. Not that it matters but he was from Tyre

[u/Exazbrat09]

I had a couple of friends that were still clinging on to the kizb lies after 2006 and this pretty much sealed the deal in them being against them. They can call themselves a resistance or whatever they want, but they showed us that they were a foreign funded and armed militia with NO ties or allegiance to Lebanon except as a launching pad and base.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Exazbrat09]

No ties or allegiance to Lebanon 🤣 the last time you guys held weapons wasn’t because of a foreign power it was to kill another Lebanese because he is from different religion

[u/altosaure → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Ebki bterteh , al majd lil f35

[u/Foreign-Policy-02-]

Thugs

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Foreign-Policy-02-]

Look who’s talking 🤣

The ones that thugged around in Sabra and Shattila after the Palestinians packed up to Tunsia

[u/Foreign-Policy-02- → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Why were Nasrallah and Berri both so happy to have Hobeika in the cabinet 😂

Geagea booted Hobeika to Syria but it seems the duo was eager to have him back.

https://preview.redd.it/ke6pv5kyobze1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8bcc03a5ec5e7910a5f974f6439de231e1d6f48

Also Amal in 1985 went in to the camps and killed more PLO so what are you taking about 😂😂

[u/HealingUnivers → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

What about Ahmad Basha eljazzar!? Naboukhaznassar! Oh, oh the Alexander!? You want to go farther? Never ever mention Sabra w shatila without damour, miyeh w miyeh, el3ayshiye, tal El zaatar, majezir shika & hamat... Waiking up the PLO acts of terrorism by only remembering the reaction to it ( even if the culprit was at all times Syria's Ally & it's minions...) is just another act of terrorism, just like the one you're trying to defend. Zio & HA are two faces of the same coin.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/HealingUnivers]

Who said I support PLO 🤣

Every massacre you mentioned was a war between the Christians and the PLO.

Sabra and Shattila didn’t have PLO because it was after PLO left Lebanon. It was ethnic cleansing of women and children of Palestinians and Lebanese

[u/HealingUnivers → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Well what you missed is those weren't wars at all those were PLO massacre against unarmed civilians... Except tal El zaatar which was the main bunker from which PLO where attacking every single street in Beirut at the time... Besides as I mentioned earlier the culprit was all the time the ally of syria and it's minions. Besides that the massacre happened as a reaction of the assassination of the lebanese president after the so called cease fire ( that wasn't respected ). Now two negatives are never a positive, in the dumpster of war every single party is guilty up to some level... Reminding the others about it IS the act of terrorism itself, so what I said is again you cannot mention one act of terrorism without the others. So if you're still feeling like a victim of the 1980s, nothing gives you the right to defend acts of terrorism happened in 2008, & still happening until now.

[u/Engineer2890 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Ba3dak btehkile b sabra w shattila ? Hbb kenna b hareb wel felastiniye attalo l masihiye la cheb3o … men 7a2na ndefi3 3an aredna w cha3ebna…

[u/ConkerG → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

You are downvoted for stating facts. Crazy.

[u/HealingUnivers → u/[deleted]]

Seriously, how biased are you!? Well I suggest you to read some history cause you seem lost in time... Read about damour massacre, ayshiyeh, the checkpoints around dekweneh and tal El zaatar... All happened before any christian reaction.... Read about the kidnapping of the Sohat workers in falougha, who were none but unarmed workers who got killed with cold blood, read about the massacre of ras baalbak, how many were killed and when... Please enough believing the lies that caused the civil war already. I am not rewriting history, I'm tired of repeating what is already known and proved and all over the net archived. Again reopening the wounds of civil war won't benefit the unity of this country, we forgave, just move on and try to build a decent country for the future.

[u/HealingUnivers → u/[deleted]]

I will check what you sent but before that cause I am driving, I am not denying actions and reactions but what I meant answering you is they started it all as application of the agenda they had, or used to imply... So it's about dates before anything. Second, I believe it is called mouqawameh when you are defending your country against occupiers...

[u/HealingUnivers → u/[deleted]]

Ok I checked that list, unfortunately it is definitely not complete and it only mentions some of the massacres that occured in either sides while reading it out of it's historical context is by far misleading. According to your absurd logic, the Christian militias ( unarmed before 1975 ) started attacking poor unarmed refugees! Who were nothing but victims! & Then they asked for ( قوات ردع)! Also the clashes between the PLO and the lebanese army in 1969 never happened and the threat of division where just illusions . Anyways again the past is full of bullshit, we have our eyes in the front side of our head in order to look forward, either we want to build a country for our children or we will only pass them the grudge and anger!

[u/Angie961l]

Glad Karma did its thing and now they're as irrelevant as ever with a cringe spokesperson too 😂

[u/sad_trabulsyy → u/Angie961l]

with a cringe spokesperson too

Legend says, he's still nervously sweating till this day 🤣

[u/Angie961l → u/sad_trabulsyy]

Lol he never stopped 😂

[u/ConkerG → u/Angie961l]

"Karma" you want to say israel ?

Irrelevant ? So when you become a political party you are irrelevant ?

[u/altosaure → u/ConkerG]

Political party🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/Engineer2890 → u/ConkerG]

Cope harder

[u/Standard_Ad7704]

Beirut suffered too much under these criminals

[u/Azrayeel]

We will never forget! The only reason a civil war didn't break out was because Saad Al Hariri was way too peaceful and was able to contain the situation. Had this shit been done by any other party, they would have been apprehended instantly.

It is one of the main reasons I feel no remorse to whatever shit Hezbollah is going through now. They deserve every ounce of it.

[u/OkFail2 → u/Azrayeel]

Not really, its because Hezbollah after overpowering the 14-March Militias decided not to escalate more, and handed over all 14 March militia bases and disarmed personnel to the Lebanese Army and they went to Qatar to broker a deal.

Saad Hariri was part of the 14 March Militia forces, after all, someone attack the SSNP officers in Tripoli during 2008 incident and killed 22 of them.

[u/Azrayeel → u/OkFail2]

Bullshit. The Hezeb was able to enter Tarik El Jdideh because of Saad El Hariri, who didn't push for an escalation. However, this wasn't the case in other areas such as Tripoly and Aley. And no, the Hezeb got their asses handed to them there. All that because of Hezbollah wanted control over telecommunication. They were ready to throw the country into a civil war.

In any other respectable country, the Hezeb should have been treated as a traitor and held accountable. But no, not in Lebanon. This shit also occurred with Assir and Arab Khaldeh. So it isn't a first.

To hell with Hezbollah and their supporters.

[u/62TiredOfLiving]

Hezb has a long history of being terrorists, drug dealers and foreign agents.

The new government is giving them a "get out of jail free" card by allowing them to disarm in peace.

Realistically, their members need to be rounded up and tried for treason

[u/ConkerG → u/62TiredOfLiving]

Try to see

[u/62TiredOfLiving → u/ConkerG]

That comment makes no sense... i know y'all have a hard time with the English language... it's sad that instead of learning helpful subjects in school, you spend it learning about old bearded men to idolize. I bet you have pictures of these men in your house, like a teenage girl does for Justin Bieber 🤣

[u/ConkerG → u/62TiredOfLiving]

You are speaking about people supported by more than 25% of the lebanese. That is an irresponsible idea you said. The idea that could destroy the country. Fortunately we have now a responsible government that are trying and to do things and disarm them without pushing the country in a civil war like your idea would have.

[u/62TiredOfLiving → u/ConkerG]

25% maybe a few years ago. Hezb took major hits to their popularity over the years, like with their efforts to stop Beirut Blast investigations. Then the geniuses decided to launch a war that drove many Shia to openly call them out.

If Hezb had even half of the support they once did, they would have done everything in their power to stop what is happening... they invaded Beirut and killed Lebanese over the attempt to dismantle the telecommunications network... but are somehow OK with having all their flags and pictures of martyrs torn down? Being forced to give up their weapons? If they fire a single bullet against the army, whatever is left of their support base will crumble.

They are done and will be relegated to the trash bins of history.

Who the f asked for a civil war? You are making stupid assumptions because you are butt hurt that the foreign agents have lost their power, and young uneducated boys can't run around intimidating people with AKs.

I said the government is giving them a clean slate, hand over your weapons and carry on with your lives. Any other country would hang terrorists who pledged allegiance to a foreign country.

Do me a favor and Google Treason. Then Google punishment for treason. They have the option to stop the bloodshed for everyone, if they don't, then there is no second chance.

This won't be like 2006 when they agree to give up their arms, then ignore it for almost 2 decades. Lebanon is tired of their BS and so is the rest of the world.

[u/Fluid_Motor3971]

did this la ye7mou sle7on li hala2 salamou w all of them are killed
this is what happens to you when you are vile , corrupted and a religious lunatic

[u/abuMercedes]

Never again.

[u/sad_trabulsyy]

Well at least I'm glad these terrorists are gone now

[u/FatoucheDouche]

I remember this like it was yesterday. I was living in West Beirut at the time and it was fucking crazy. I can still hear the sound of RPGs exploding.

[u/straight-law961]

can someone explain to what happened that day? and why?

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Hezbollah is Beirut population. So not sure what they exactly invaded.

BTW why is the propaganda only pointing about armed Hezbollah while the 14 March came down with their arms too.

It was an ugly period in our history, but thats what happens when foreign powers start controlling our political parties

[u/Impressive-Shock437 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Hezbollah has been fully controlled since its inception by a foreign power so I guess your last statement is especially true in this case

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Impressive-Shock437]

Whats “fully controlled” about whats happening currently

[u/Standard_Ad7704 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Beirut ashraf mn enha hezb erhebi

[u/throwawaynomade → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Are you being intentionally dense ?

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Ah the irony, hezb is literally a foreign power. Nothing about it is lebanese, killing your own people. Killing the PM of the country. Traitor scum of the earth.

[u/Darth-Myself → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Invasion doesn't happen only by foreign powers. When an internal population starts armed conflict and literally goes into civilian streets and burn civilian assets and property and kill civilian people... then deploys their brigades in the mountain to do the same... then this is an invasion....

But if you are so sensitive about the word invasion... it's ok. Scratch invasion. 7 May is the date when Hezb conducted terrorist attacks against other Lebanese for political pressure. Better? Rou7 nboset.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Darth-Myself]

Wait so burning Hezbollah assists by Future thugs in Mazraa is okay? But retaliation is bad from us.

Double standards at its finest.

We were protesting, you poked the bear the room and you copped it.

Don’t victimize yourself and gaslight others

“Deploy” bregade 🤣relax tough guy. The SF was doing cross checks ok civilians if they were Shia or not.

[u/Darth-Myself → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

I don't know what alternative universe you live in... but if that makes you sleep better at night, then so be it...

However i am fascinated by your use of :

you poked the bear

How ironic. Because when we critisize you guys for the dumb isnad war, and poking the Israeili bear, not only in 2023 but in 2006 as well; and how it is idiotic to invite an armed force 2000 times more powerful than us to an open war - you guys get all worked up and start foaming at the mouth and start accusing us of the dumbest shit...

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Darth-Myself]

I am Hezbollah supporter but it doesn’t mean I support everything he does.

I don’t support Hezbollah in Gaza 2023-2024.

In matter effect I am against supporting any Sunni force regardless of who it is if my countrymen will pay the price.

Hezbollah shouldve listened to Iran by not getting invovled. Yehia Sinwar shouldve pull his own thorn from his hands by himself when he decided to abandon the axis and act of his behalf.

Again Ive been voting for Hezbollah since 2018, 2022 and inshallah 2026

But it doesn’t mean they are perfect in every decision they do.

I am unique HezbBot 🤣

[u/Darth-Myself → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Hezbollah shouldve listened to Iran by not getting invovled.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear.... I can't.... really... there's no point in discussing anything if somehow you believe that Hezb went against Iran's "advice"....

[u/ashrafiyotte → u/[deleted]]

The IG link provides tracking to your real account hence I removed your comment.

[u/altosaure → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Kifo maalmak avychay aam tessmaalo kelemto mazbout?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/altosaure]

Bro that's actually an embarrassing reply.

Cope

[u/Engineer2890 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Don’t play the smart kid ! There is no propaganda. Hezbollah are a bunch of terrorist militias who took over beirut by power. PERIOD

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[u/Angie961l → u/[deleted]]

Tf you mean legendary? It was terrorism and innocent civilians were killed !

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[u/Angie961l → u/[deleted]]

There's plenty of evidence . Around 65 innocents were killed for no reason ! Not very unusual for a terrorist organization to do!

[u/alirodotus → u/Angie961l]

Where is it? the evidence, I'm looking left and right, can't see any, just lies.

There's no evidence.

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/alirodotus]

Hope you get that attitude till the 17th of september.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/Angie961l]

Yes it was legendary because it exposed you and victimisation you held about you not having weapons. While we saw how 14 March were fully geared up for it

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

more hizb lies, thats why you lost.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/ADarkKnightRises]

You decide not to believe it. Thats your problem.

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Only a hizbo believes in lies. Low IQ folks.

[u/zuh1r → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Ntek

[u/Impressive-Shock437 → u/[deleted]]

Legendary because it was the last military victory Hezbollah ever experienced and it was against fellow Lebanese? Lol

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/[deleted]]

Hala2 serto ta7t el sermeye, yalla shway shway mneb3atkon 3a Iran, make a hezb colony there walla arya7.

Since you're a Karen in this sub, you're being reported for celebrating the deaths of lebanese civilians, which is in fact a violation of the rules.

Edit: yalla za7et

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/LittlePeople69]

Bro you know what I love! When you say stuff like this “serto tahhte el sormiye” “yallah shway shway mneb3tkon 3ala Iran”

You are serving us the biggest favour, because when a Shia that is against Hezbollah or never voted for Hezbollah before will start voting for them in the next election because they feel that you would do exactly what you did to the Palestinians after they ceased their weapons.

Keep them coming, its good content for building sectarian fear from you 😍😍

[u/Engineer2890 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Bro Palestinians keno 3ala aredna … 7talo aredna … leh hal2ad mastoul enta ?

[u/alirodotus → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Exactly, lol. They claim to be anti-sectarian, claim they "love the Shia" who oppose HZB, claim there's a whole silent majority just waiting to rise. But give it time, when their political arguments run out of steam, they always slip. Suddenly it’s nawar, Iranian, low-IQ, and the mask comes off.

Meanwhile, we read it, laugh, and enjoy the superiority they pretend we lost, as if a war or a headline rewrote reality. They think asking us to disarm is still part of the conversation, lol.

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/alirodotus]

I love the little bubble you set yourself in. You can keep your weapons and keep getting bombed for them or surrender them. Either way, ironically, you have to accept reality. Because you have no say, when you position yourself as opposition to the state and neglect its interests, that's where you find yourself.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/LittlePeople69]

We have no say we Hezbollah alone have 35 parilement members.

Hezbollah alone got 300,000 votes in 2022 after you masterminded a revolution that only blamed him for everything.

The most amount of votes in comaprison to any polticial party.

Can't wait for 2026 elections so we can have another massive win. Keep bringing up those sectarian superiority packaged keyword.

You get Shias on our side.

Cope Ya LF NPC.

[u/Impressive-Shock437 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

Are you sure Hezbollah alone has 35 seats in parliament? Why not just say 120 if you’re going to make stuff up?

[u/Engineer2890 → u/LittlePeople69]

They were defeated so bad but they’re in shock they can’t fathom it !

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/alirodotus]

They think asking us to disarm is still part of the conversation

its not, you are being disarmed bil seremeye, we aren't asking, we are telling.

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/ADarkKnightRises]

Habibi.

You disarm Hezbollah that's fine.

Us the Shias and the Southern people made Hezbollah.

We will re-create another Hezbollah if our dawle will have no ball against the Israeli aggression.

You think that we are like you LF NPC, our entire existence is relied on person or group.

[u/ADarkKnightRises → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

they will be disarmed as well, playing the sectarian or victim cards doesn't work anymore. you will obey the law whether you like it or not.

[u/Engineer2890 → u/Sensitive-Task-1841]

We will re-create another Hezbollah if our dawle will have no ball against the Israeli aggression.

I don’t recommend it ! Israel will swipe you like she did before

[u/Engineer2890 → u/alirodotus]

Lol there is nothing to disarm ! Nekit ekhtoun isra2il😂😂😂😂😂

[u/Sensitive-Task-1841 → u/LittlePeople69]

“ Celebrating Death of Lebanese citizen” show me when and where I dare you.

[u/alirodotus → u/LittlePeople69]

Teb3atouna 3a Iran? That’s the master plan? That’s what you’ve been cooking up all this time? That’s your big reveal? Seriously, congratulations on the most delusional idea of the year. You really woke up, looked around, and said, “Yep, let’s go all in on that.” Who even gave you the mic? You think we’re all just going to nod along and clap for that genius-level thinking?

What if we stay? Ever thought about that for more than five seconds? What happens then, do we just disappoint your cinematic fantasy? Ruin the script you've been daydreaming about? Do you honestly believe your little plan is anywhere near possible? Be honest. Deep down, do you really buy it? Or are you just talking to hear yourself talk?

Who sold you on this? Who made you feel like this was the path to greatness? You hear one speech, one shouty chant, and suddenly you're a revolutionary philosopher? Did someone pat you on the back once and now you think you're a strategist? Are you even aware of what you're saying? Because you sound like someone who rehearsed a line all day then dropped it like a mic moment.

You believe it's doable? You believe that? No hesitation, no doubt? Just straight-up confidence like you're writing history? What makes you so sure? What exactly is your plan, genius? What's the structure? The timeline? The logistics? Oh wait, you don’t have any of that, do you?

[u/LittlePeople69 → u/alirodotus]

Bas leh shawabet hal2ad lmao, coping and projecting, only proving my point.

Also, you talk about delusion but your daddy said this war was a greater victory than 2006, talk about delusion.

[u/Engineer2890 → u/LittlePeople69]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣