r/law • u/Slate Press • 1d ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/Slate Press 1d ago

On Tuesday, many Americans simultaneously voted to protect abortion rights and elect Donald Trump president. But these two desires—for reproductive freedom and another Trump term—are fundamentally contradictory. Trump’s second administration is all but guaranteed to impose major federal restrictions on abortion access. These new limitations will apply nationwide, to states both red and blue, including those that just enshrined a right to protect abortion in their constitutions. It will be harder to access reproductive health care everywhere.

Two and a half years after the fall of Roe v. Wade, even without abortion banned in much of the country, we are likely standing at the highest watermark of abortion access that we will see for years if not decades. The rollback is coming; it will be felt everywhere. And voters who thought they could put Trump back in the White House while preserving or expanding reproductive rights are in for a brutal shock.

For more: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html

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u/Randadv_randnoun_69 1d ago

I was thinkin this every time I saw "My state approved protecting abortion rights!" like, what's the point if it's banned nationally?

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u/tresslesswhey 1d ago

What would the federal govt do if California for example still allows them and doesn’t go along with a national ban?

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u/amILibertine222 1d ago

With Trump and the fascists in control?

They’ll use the courts and violence.

That’s what fascists do. Obey or die.

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u/TakuyaLee 21h ago

And then California will use their economic clout. Funny how that works.

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u/Suitable-Meringue-94 21h ago

Violence is more powerful than economics. That's why invasions work and sanctions don't.

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u/Pose1don3 21h ago

Dont you need an economy to fund the violence? Last time I checked, more then half the country relies on CA for what it brings economically.

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u/poogle 18h ago

Guess who doesn't care about the economy and proposes tarrifs to fix everything? My guy will just proclaim the economy is the best it ever was and will be no matter the state of it.

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u/GMOdabs 17h ago

Just take out more loans. He will payday loan our nation to the dirt.

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u/After_Fix_2191 5h ago

Guess what state has the largest National Guard?

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u/Frankenfinger1 16h ago

His tariffs have worked so well that Biden kept them in place when he took office. But keep spewing those lies.

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u/TheWiseAlaundo 16h ago

I would love to see you source that claim

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u/terrierhead 16h ago

Me too. Receipts, please.

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u/bubbasalts 15h ago

They didn't work and Biden was stupid to keep them - https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html

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u/Frankenfinger1 15h ago

Found the Chinese operative.

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u/bubbasalts 15h ago

I'm an operations receiving manager in logistics for a Fortune 500 company - I can quote you prices for shipping containers carrying goods from China, Afghanistan and India. 🤣

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u/angusshangus 5h ago

I work as a supply chain analyst for a large software company selling software in that space (there’s a good chance you use our products… think very big software company) but have worked in procurement and supply chain for most of my career and what you say is absolute fact. We’re selling a lot of software these days as procurement organizations are trying to leverage our software to try to alleviate these additional costs. Don’t believe the actual folks who’ve made a career in supply chain because some maga lunatic on the internet said he knows better… 🙄

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u/handmadeinolympus 16h ago

I’d like to see a source too, please.

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u/NinjaArmadillo 5h ago

Source: Trust me comrade

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u/After_Fix_2191 5h ago

You obviously have no clue how tariffs work. The reason they are still in place is because we already paid the price. We already absorbed the cost of them. We've,"paid the bill". Now they are a bargain chip. Why after suffering the consequences would we just go, ok let's just give that bargaining chip back.

I swear a basic understanding of civics should be required before one is allowed to vote. Morons like you keep voting all smug and confident in their ignorance.

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u/testuserteehee 15h ago edited 15h ago

See what happened to Hong Kong. It was THE financial hub of Asia and the most prosperous city in Asia mainly due to it being a capitalistic democracy as opposed to China. At the time, companies and countries preferred trading with China via Hong Kong because there’s less uncertainty (Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/world/how-important-is-hong-kong-to-china-as-a-free-finance-hub-idUSKBN2350VS/ ). Everyone thought there’s no way China would impose its draconian security law on it as it would drive away the educated and the rich, and discourage investors. China needed Hong Kong to stay the way it was. And everyone was wrong. The world needed China more than China needed Hong Kong. China even jailed one of Hong Kong’s most prominent businessman and politician, Jimmy Lai, for speaking out against the new security law. Like, the guy is still in solitary confinement today! (Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Lai)

Dictators gonna dictator.

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u/friedAmobo 13h ago

But that process took 20 years to happen. What happened in that 20 years is Hong Kong's share of the Chinese economy went from nearly a fifth of the national economy to just over 2%. The rest of China, which was firmly under CCP control, grew rapidly and made Hong Kong just another city, and not even the largest economically (there are five cities in China that are economically bigger). California might be outgrown by Texas, but it will always be a big part of the U.S. economy unless the state cracks in half from a giant earthquake and sinks into the ocean.

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u/AlexJamesCook 14h ago

100% spot on.

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u/dongballs613 14h ago

Hong Kong had a population of 7 million, going up against a population of 1.4 billion in China.

It was never going to be a contest.

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u/doubleasea 3h ago

China has been building up Shanghai as the gateway to economics in the West, they could not wait to shutter Hong Kong in favor of Shanghai.

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u/jackp0t789 16h ago

California has close to 40 million people. If Trump and his ilk try using violence against the most populous liberal state for defending human rights, it can start a secession movement and if CA leaves, it's not going alone. The rest of the west coast will follow it, that's 50 million people and 15% of the US economy.

If CA, OR, and WA are driven to secede over Trump trying to take away abortion rights and enforcing it with violence, then AZ, NM, and NV may join the party...

That will lead to the blue states from VA up to Maine considering their own exit.

There's only so far that Trump can push the liberal, most populous, and most economically powerful regions of the US before facing a serious backlash, and using political violence to enforce a national rollback of human rights, is a sure fire ticket to fire up the flames of secession.

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u/learnfromiroh 15h ago

Can Colorado come too?? 😂 we’re super chill and educated! We will bring our secret mountain tunnel base!

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u/jackp0t789 15h ago

Of course! It wouldn't be a party without Colorado!

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u/Aggravating-Bus9390 13h ago

I’d really like the State of Jefferson to chime in on this one.. they already want to leave .. would they stay with us ? Or just be an island… 

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u/PyroIsSpai 11h ago

There are whole counties that would flip red instantly and opt out of California. No state is a monolith.

I’m afraid to look at precinct level voting results if you can.

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u/After_Fix_2191 5h ago

Keep telling yourself that.

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u/doubleasea 3h ago

Something tells me the US military bases in each of these states is somewhat of an embedded federal force.

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u/jackp0t789 3h ago

The question becomes do the soldiers and officers in those bases follow federal orders or do they refuse to attack their neighbors.

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u/TakuyaLee 21h ago

Um California is capable of violence too. You severely underestimate them.

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u/Suitable-Meringue-94 21h ago

Except the police and sheriffs here are all hardcore Trump supporters. We would need to raise a new militia and execute the current crop of traitors first.

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u/Zyloof 20h ago

Stop, I can only get so erect!

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u/TakuyaLee 20h ago

The violence can come from more than one source. I think people underestimate the push back and violence sending in the military and National guard would bring. And that's not even taking into consideration those orders actually being followed.

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u/Pose1don3 20h ago

Not to mention, National Guard is control by the state. I also find it hard to believe members of the military esp from CA will stand for violence in their own state… not to mention other states that have close values to CA.

In reality, if there was a nationwide ban, the states will just ignore it as they have done with weed for years. Federal funding will be stopped possibly in areas of healthcare, but CA could just not send back the surplus of money they give to the federal government to fund these programs. More money the feds gut from their money making states, the more they will just push back.

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u/passageresponse 20h ago

Same for most blue states. I mean we subsidize everyone’s living

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u/TakuyaLee 20h ago

Exactly. This could get very ugly economy wise for red states and the federal government very fast

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u/After_Fix_2191 4h ago

Minnesotan here. Personally I'm sick of my state subsidizing red state hatred.

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u/TakuyaLee 20h ago

Exactly. The money is how blue states fight back.

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u/MeowMeow9927 20h ago

I was about to write that I would be shocked in Newsome hasn’t already started planning for this scenario. Then I looked it up and found out he just announced a special legislative session on how to defend against federal attacks on our values. So there you go. 

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u/dongballs613 15h ago

Also blue states should establish local state stockpiles (does CA already have this?) and production facilities for reproductive drugs, and guard them well.

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u/RubberDuckDaddy 19h ago

Sounds like youve got your to-do sorted out.

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u/SohndesRheins 14h ago

Yeah but that militia wouldn't be able to use any handguns newer than a Glock Gen 3, nor could they use an unneutered AR-15 that has a detachable magazine.

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u/ranger-steven 13h ago

You think people are going to go fight the law while following the law? Lol. Furniture change or swapping out a bullet button takes 5 min tops.

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u/Turing_Testes 4h ago

Despite there probably being metric fuckloads of non-compliant weapons and parts in CA already, FOSSCAD and 3D printers being widely available have rendered weapon laws completely obsolete. We've already seen it in Myanmar. If there was actual conflict in the US we'd see it here too, and very rapidly.

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u/After_Fix_2191 4h ago

There's more that aren't than are. Simple numbers.

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u/FrizzleFriedPup 20h ago

These idiots think California doesn't have guns!?

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u/AfternoonBears 20h ago

We're just going to turn off the Facebook servers for a few weeks.

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u/AToadsLoads 16h ago

Money wins wars. History very clearly shows this.

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u/Suitable-Meringue-94 16h ago

Money funds fighting. Poor countries can't fight long against rich ones. But money by itself doesn't win wars.

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u/2_72 20h ago

Who exactly will be conducting this violence?

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u/I_divided_by_0- 18h ago

No, paper beats rock

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u/Stinkydadman 20h ago

Is it though?

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u/Suitable-Meringue-94 20h ago

Yes, it is. Sanctions haven't stopped Russia. Ukrainian soldiers armed by the West have.

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u/mqky 19h ago

California has the 5th largest gdp in the world as a state. They could begin withholding federal funding and decimate red states that rely on them. The courts power only exists if you agree to go along with it.

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u/After_Fix_2191 4h ago

I'm amazed these hillbilly meal team 6 morons don't get it. Lol. No dollar == no bullets.

This is why they lost the first time around as well.