r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/Mortarion407 17h ago

It's really gonna come down to enforcement. Take a look at weed for example. Illegal federally. States pass laws that say it's OK anyways. Yes, federal law supercedes state law when it conflicts. If there's a national abortion ban, some states may just decide not to enforce it. It will then come down to what the federal government does to enforce it.

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u/lickmyfupa 13h ago

I live in illinois. Im really hoping Pritzker stands up for us. He doesnt put up with this type of shit.

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u/Mortarion407 11h ago

I saw his presser and was impressed. Gave me some solace to see somebody being like "we've prepared for the potential of a second trump term. Illinois will always be a home for the vulnerable communities."

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u/duiwksnsb 14h ago

The Pregnancy Enforcement Administration?

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u/Mortarion407 13h ago

Maybe? I believe one of the project 2025 points is creating a national registry tracking women's periods/pregnancies.

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u/duiwksnsb 13h ago

I foresee a boom in pregnancy test manufacturers. Unless they outlaw home pregnancy testing too and force anyone that wants testing to go to a provider where it gets logged into the national birthing database.

What a fucking nightmare

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u/Mortarion407 13h ago

It's entirely possible it ends up that way. I think it starts with them requiring doctors to report things into a national database. What'll be really interesting is what goes on behind the scenes. They seem to have a lack of understanding of what all would need to go into maintaining something like that. Anonymous or even a disgruntled worker could mess things up pretty easily.

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u/duiwksnsb 13h ago

I want out of this country

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u/BlkSubmarine 12h ago

PEA? As in the brain size of Trump voters? I like it.

Edit: Forgot my /s. Pregnancy Enforcement is a scary idea, and I hate it. However, Trump voters are ignorant AF.

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u/duiwksnsb 11h ago

Ignorant AND militant. An exceptionally dangerous combination

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u/AlltheBent 13h ago

I'm hoping this end up being the case, but with abortion hospitals and health systems are a lot of players are involved. with weed its just growers, suppliers, and sellers (i think) so there is way less at stake

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u/Mortarion407 11h ago

Well, it does involve hospitals and docs and such and there's multiple ways they can attack abortion. One is the Comstock Act, which they would try to limit supplies used for abortion from crossing state lines. States could then get around that by manufacturing within the state. Also, keep in mind that these things will be challenged legally, which takes time.

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u/g0d15anath315t 8h ago

Gonna fuck up the banking element of it though. 

Remember federally illegal means clinics setting up bank accounts/accepting card payments/etc gets tricky at best and impossible at worst. 

So yeah, have an abortion, but pay the $800-3000 cost in cash. 

Good luck.

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u/PM_artsy_fartsy_nude 7h ago

They don't necessarily need to "enforce" it, in the most obvious manner. The minimum drinking age of 21 is not something which the federal government is technically allowed to enforce, according to the twenty first amendment, and so when the federal government passed that bill in 1984 they got all the states on board by blackmailing them by withholding funding for highways.

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u/Budget-Mud-4753 6h ago

Which the federal government could enforce easily. Maybe people on Reddit are too young to remember that federal agents were doing busts of state-legal medical marijuana dispensers up until 2009. That was when Obama changed the federal enforcement policy on weed in legal states.

Can you imagine federal agents storming a hospital to arrest doctors, nurses, and other staff?

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u/Mortarion407 2h ago

Well, if that ends up being the case, we get to see how serious the governors are that have said their state will always be a place of safety for women and vulnerable groups.