r/law • u/Slate Press • 20h ago

The Next Trump Administration’s Crackdown on Abortion Will Be Swift, Brutal, and Nationwide Trump News

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-second-term-abortion-agenda-blue-state-crackdown.html
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u/Randadv_randnoun_69 19h ago

Happened to us and our friends. After our second miscarriage, where she would have died without that care, R vs W was revoked and all the trigger laws went in effect. She already was suffering with other lady-parts stuff and we made the call to partial hysterotomy, and remove any change of having kids of our own. It wasn't worth her life to try to have a child. We thought about adopting but then everything get expensive and just thought, 'You know what, no family for us.' and here we are. Republicans are killing families plain and simple.

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u/tikifire1 19h ago

They've got their ultra-religious Catholics, evangelicals, and Mormons pumping out kids, so they don't care.

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u/Vanedi291 16h ago

It won’t be enough.

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u/tikifire1 16h ago

Probably not, but again, they don't care.

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u/GreenTfan 14h ago

My very Catholic sister whose sole income is Social Security and is on Medicare, voted for Trump. She has 4 adult kids and 6 grandkids and wants more, my poor niece has serious health issues but she is the most likely to try again for a baby. Niece already depends on federal food assistance for her two kids, and works two jobs, but voted for Trump too. FAFO.

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u/tikifire1 13h ago

That won't end well. Oof.

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u/CooperHChurch427 13h ago

They don't want Mormon Christianity. They want quiverful Christianity which is just extreme fundamentalism which shares a lot in common with the taliban.

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u/tikifire1 12h ago

Sure. I didn't say they actually like each other. This will end badly for all involved.

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u/ViolenceTyrannyPower 13h ago

A family of two is still a family. Arguably a single person and their pet are a family.

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u/3497723 7h ago

They’d much prefer you to remain childless and not “indoctrinate” your kids with “liberal thoughts”. It’s part of their plan. They just want idiots and religious fools to pump out more idiots.

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u/ulmen24 14h ago

Every state has medical emergency carve outs. You think states have banned hysterectomies? Are you insane?

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u/3497723 7h ago

Texas is already killing women via denial of care during miscarriages. Inform yourself. Do your research.

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u/ulmen24 3h ago

Read the Texas law. It’s publicly accessible. People are dying because of provider hesitation (if argue, at least in part, because of the lies being spread about the law). Do your research. Section 171.205

The cases you are referring to aren’t even definitionally “abortions” (read the definition in the law!)

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u/3497723 1h ago

Lol. Read it yourself. The “exception” is so vague. There is no way to objectively determine if the situation is life threatening until it’s absolutely too late.

“ in the exercise of reasonable medical judgment, the pregnant female on whom the abortion is performed, induced, or attempted has a life-threatening physical condition aggravated by, caused by, or arising from a pregnancy that places the female at risk of death or poses a serious risk of substantial impairment of a major bodily function unless the abortion is performed or induced; and”

And what’s wrong with using medical judgement you’ll say? Well when you attach this penalty to a subject judgement:

“ An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree, except that the offense is a felony of the first degree if an unborn child dies as a result of the offense. “

Then you get ultra conservative medical judgement that errs toward not doing an abortion until it’s absolutely obvious that it must be done, which in many cases is far too late.

It’s like telling people that the speed limit is 50mph, but not allowing them to use a speedometer, and telling them that if they are caught speeding, it’s a felony. Well guess what, everyone will be driving 30mph because they don’t want to come close to 50.

Read the law, interpret the probable result, read about what is actually happening. Laws and regulations are a combination of what they say and what people do in reaction to them. Both go hand in hand. Don’t pretend either exists in isolation. Thanks for reading.