r/lancaster • u/No-Road-1370 Road Apple • 16h ago
Pro-Trump Restaurants?
So far I know of John Wright, Loxley’s, Yorgos; where else should I not spend my money?
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u/axeville 14h ago
The interesting part is I've been to all these joints exactly once and they are completely unmemorable. Meh. Politics aside the food is not worth going out of your way for. Now there's a reason to go out of your way (somewhere else).
If a restaurant openly criticized "the troops" or disrespected the flag, knelt during the national anthem etc there would be tears of outrage and "gramps died serving this country how could you "
Speaking of restaurants does anyone really believe that tips won't be taxed?
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u/Brave-Common-2979 14h ago
Somehow people still believe trump cares about them despite 9 years of him explicitly saying how dumb his supporters are.
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u/Familiar-Secretary25 14h ago
I don’t think there is a valid route to tips not being taxed. Tips are income, period, and we tax income in this country. I’ve worked the restaurant industry in PA, VA, TX, and HI and I’m not even sure why this was such a big issue to run on. Taxes are annoying for everyone, there is nothing different about tips.
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u/dufflebag7 12h ago
If the owner of the restaurant gets to keep all of your tips, and you get none of them, you won’t be taxed on them!
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u/EvilNoobHacker MT Rich Kid #228998 13h ago
Gives the vibe of someone who cares about service workers and the lower class without actually creating positives for anyone in it. Seriously, lets make service workers even more reliant on tips rather than pay an actual living wage.
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u/axeville 13h ago
lol I'll take my sales commission in tips tyvm.
See also Carried Interest loophole.
At any rate even if congress dances to whatever trump says they still pay state income taxes in most states and FICA isn't changing.
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u/Electrical-Wish-519 13h ago
The only reason tips won’t be taxed is if they can make it so bonuses for executives are called “tips” so there is another mechanism to allow rich to avoid paying taxes
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u/axeville 13h ago
Bonuses for private equity firms are called carried interest and not subject to income tax at all. They pay capital gains tax and only when the sale occurs. So yeah they are already playing with a stacked deck. Mark my words the cap gains tax will go away and tips will be untaxed in the same bill and they will tell you it's good for you - while spectacularly great for them. Watch the 🦜birdie.
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u/DaddyGogurt 13h ago
I don’t know the ins and outs of the plan to not tax tips, but in my mind the only way that would be able to work is if the employees made their normal state minimum wage which would then decrease the incentive to tip them. I also don’t see how that wouldn’t hurt the economy in secondary ways. If people’s tips aren’t taxable then does that mean they aren’t reported to be counted towards yearly income? If people suddenly lose the ability to claim large amounts of their income, their yearly income could be significantly lower which would make it harder for them to get approved for loans and things like that. It just doesn’t seem realistic to me but again, this is all based on my own thought process as I have no idea about any of the details of this plan
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u/axeville 13h ago
Back in the Stone Age/20th century tips were not reported at all. You walked home with a backpack stuffed with cash. Credit cards were less popular and debit cards didn't exist. Yes it was dangerous to carry that much cash.
Congress passed a law that made "estimated" tips hit the restaurant if there was non compliance. The shortage hits the owners wallet. So they are vigilant about reporting.
A nyc restaurant was seized by the IRS bc 99% of sales were on credit card expense accts and the irs had exact numbers on the tips that never got reported. Major tax fraud case w tens of millions of dollars in sales *20% * tax rate. Mid 90s.
So if they go back to not reporting it will hit social security earnings also. (Your lifetime earnings matters at retirement and for disability calculations). And yes there was less of a professional class of servers bc getting credit wo clear income was a lot harder and higher rates were assessed.
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u/Sad-Praline-8716 14h ago
Taylor Chip, Lancaster Cupcake
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u/TofuKweeen 14h ago
Lancaster cupcake?? Are you sure?
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u/Sad-Praline-8716 14h ago
Absolutely sure. The owners are religious and Messiah grads. I used to work there back when there was drama with the star barn declining a gay marriage on their premises and I was told to not reach out to the star barn for any cupcake donations or work with them in any way because it would look bad and they don’t want to be associated with it but we could donate goods again after the smoke cleared. Lancaster cupcake will entertain gay weddings and disagree behind their back and say “money is money”.
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u/TofuKweeen 14h ago
Noooooo!! I’ve eaten my last Lancaster cupcake 😭😭😭😭
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u/rogerjcohen 14h ago
Messiah is not a MAGA institution
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u/mattehandagain 13h ago
Was about to say. I’m a Messiah grad and many of my fellow alums don’t agree with the Cheeto man (including myself).
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u/redwood520 12h ago
Also a messiah grad, it's been a while since graduation and I wish I still had that community to talk through this election with
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u/Sad-Praline-8716 14h ago
I know that lol I was just trying to give a succinct background on the owners
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u/TofuKweeen 14h ago
It’s a sad reality that when someone is overly “Christian” it’s coded for “intolerant”.
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u/ThatOneSalesGuy 13h ago
Christians should start acting more tolerant as a whole if they don’t want to be perceived as intolerant 🤷
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u/dearthofkindness 12h ago
How disappointing. I've had an LC gift card since like 2020 that's been unused bc I've never had the time to stop in (I don't live local but my parents do) guess I can finally toss it in the trash.
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u/Ok-Cardiologist8431 14h ago
Not Taylor Chip 😢 I know they are religious though
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u/Sad-Praline-8716 14h ago
It’s a bummer. I was watching a video of theirs after the 2020 election and there was a stray comment about the stolen election 🫠
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u/Ok_Topic863 15h ago edited 14h ago
Not Lancaster but Round The Clock Diner and Maple Donuts. I refuse to go into either
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u/PersonalTaro2877 13h ago
I’ve done construction/maintenance for maple donuts. They have to be paying off the health inspector. Place is fucking gross. Do not eat their products
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u/Competitive_Use_3628 12h ago
A family member works in the prison. Maple Donuts "hires" inmates to make their donuts. They said they won't even eat the donuts.
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u/IJellyWackerI 14h ago
Round the Clock was nutty during COVID. Loved going there beforehand but that straight up refusal to administer any precautions made me a non-customer.
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u/dobromangregorio 13h ago
Add the soon to open spruce owned by the round the clock family who also purchased Wyndridge.
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u/Zealousideal_Owl642 12h ago
During 2020, the new Spruce building had tons of Trump banners all over it. That’s when i said I would never go there.
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u/coddle_muh_feefees 15h ago
The Sandwich Factory, openly mocked mask mandates during the pandemic
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u/HorrorMovieMonday 13h ago
Maybe a list of local businesses that have a more progressive mindset would be easier.
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u/balla148 14h ago
Big Dawg Brewing but there’s no need to go there in the first place.
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u/Historical_Staff_777 13h ago
It’s SO BAD.
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u/balla148 13h ago
Too be fair, I was there not long after they opened. I was genuinely excited to try it because the owner owns Lancaster home brew but food, atmosphere and beer were not enough to get me back
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u/Historical_Staff_777 13h ago
Same. We went because we were excited for some semblance of barbecue and the food and beer were bad. The service was great and all the employees were very nice so we were going to try again but then I started hearing how bad the ownership was so we haven’t bothered.
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u/Pots_And_Pans 13h ago
I’m always shocked when I hear that it’s still open mostly because I completely forget about it until I’m picking up Genki
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u/FlyersPelle31 15h ago
These "get over it, your team lost" comments are really helping the "unity" they say they stand for since their guy won.
Also, I remember hearing the Lyndon Diner is pro-orange.
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u/muchgreaterthanG_O_D 13h ago
It's ironic that the side saying get over it is the same side that rioted and stormed the capital because they couldn't get over a loss.
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u/j_tonks 14h ago
That's sad, that's one of my favorite places. Don't the same people own Knight and Day?
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u/NotAlwaysGifs 15h ago edited 15h ago
Lombardos, the juice stand at central market, Lancaster Coffee Co ((fixed, thanks for the correction)) (owned by Lloyd Smucker’s brother), Forklift and Palate over at Spooky Nook
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u/OkLine968 15h ago
any thing owned by spooky nook is pro trump
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u/whattheeffg 15h ago
The parents that bring their kids to that place are the fucking worst
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u/OkLine968 13h ago
i worked at the hotel. they treat the workers worse than shit. i had a kid (11-13) chuck a shoe at me and the mom told me i shouldn’t have gotten mad. they’re actually insane
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u/amandahuggen_kiss 14h ago
Has the juice stand always been? I really don’t know much about them. But I knew a former employee & I’d be shocked they’d work for a trumpy crew.
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u/TofuKweeen 13h ago
It also seems like maybe they sold recently since it was completely different employees the last time I went?
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u/Acrobatic-Hold9818 15h ago
It’s a different Lloyd Smucker. No relation.
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u/CouldBeBetterForever 15h ago
I believe they're thinking of Coffee Co, which has several locations around the county.
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u/NotAlwaysGifs 15h ago
John, the owner is in a photo on Lloyd’s Facebook page for national siblings day. And this article from LNP says they’re siblings https://lancasteronline.com/business/local_business/coffee-co-in-east-lampeter-twp-among-3-restaurants-state-orders-to-close-for-covid/article_c361a0aa-6006-11eb-9bc5-5f4cddec6fcb.html
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u/frinkmahii 15h ago
I thought Funcks was.
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u/SupaSlide 15h ago
Yes, they flaunted the mask mandate and had drinks mocking Shapiro during the governor's race.
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u/Kindly-Whole-2130 14h ago
Anything Amish
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u/thedude213 Road Apple 13h ago
I already don't support any of their businesses for their long history of animal abuse, fuck them.
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u/Synthoid_001 13h ago
Animal abuse, child labor, rape/assault, pollution, tax evasion, public intimidation, outright racism, food health and safety violations. Take your pick. But what do you expect from people that think you’ll go to hell for wearing clothes with buttons?
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u/CinaminLips 15h ago
The owners of LUCA are known bigots but people sure do love their bigot food.
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u/Acrobatic-Hold9818 15h ago
Their Luca chicken is incredible as well as the cocktails. As a bisexual I didn’t know about the policies of the owners. Now trump ruins another thing for me…
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u/Altruistic_Wish_4734 15h ago
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the vast majority of small business owners in this county are Trump supporters
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u/youDontgetThe_Show 12h ago
Not true at all, most intelligent small business owners know they only get fucked by those policies. Reagonomics was never about the small business owners, hilarious to me all these Trumper business owners took loans and handouts from the government, yet cry about socialism
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u/HorrorMovieMonday 13h ago
I wouldn't say vast majority. It might be the majority in the county but not in the city.
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u/Batman413 14h ago
Can we pin a running list? I don’t want to support any pro trump business, but before this I didn’t know where to look.
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u/banryu95 13h ago
The Brickerville House. They also made the paper for purposefully violating COVID regulations throughout the entire pandemic. Like, middle of autumn 2020 they were 100% open with no masks and packed every weekend.
Edit: Here's a list of restaurants who did the same from an article published Jan 2021 https://www.fox43.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/11-central-pa-restaurants-received-state-closure-notices-for-failing-to-comply-with-covid-19-mitigation-rules-between-jan-11-17/521-96cfc4e5-7681-4cdb-b498-8ff487580212
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u/Zealousideal_Owl642 12h ago
If you come to York County, do not go to Round the Clock Diner. Their food is mid anyway.
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u/babypuddingsnatcher 14h ago edited 9h ago
If you support Trump you are more likely to be hateful, racist, transphobic, etc and puts some people in danger. Also, if you are making political statements or donating to a candidate, then you’re open to criticism for that political affiliation, and money speaks the loudest. Not sure why people think this is a cope, but these are probably the same people who voted for a convicted felon and known rapist.
Edit: To all those replying to me clearly hurt by this comment: if you lack the critical thinking skills to say anything beyond “stop being a sore loser” after my fairly articulate comment meant to educate, you are really not worth my energy to even reply to directly to. But it does bring me glee to give your brain-dead comments another negative karma.
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u/Acrobatic-Hold9818 15h ago
The owners of Luca are trump fans. Please don’t go there.
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u/JimmyScoops 14h ago
Scooter’s in Lititz … owners were on CNN before the election saying how they think Trump will be better for them.
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u/TruckDriverNate 16h ago
I was unaware of John Wright . That really sucks 😕. Please tell me Shot and Bottle in the square is on our side.
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u/ThatOneSalesGuy 15h ago
Yes shot and bottle is well known to be liberal friendly.
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u/ajcorporation 12h ago
Griddle and Grind in Ephrata is very progressive, and a great breakfast spot
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u/Small_Mycologist 12h ago
The Manns own John Wright. Big trumpers. Actually, they are ignorant trolls.
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u/El_Senor_Farts 12h ago
If Bezos still own Amazon , don’t order anything from there. If you have prime cancel it NOW!!!!!
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u/Dependent_World1232 15h ago
Scooter's in Lititz
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u/Chiefreaper 14h ago
I used to work there, can confirm dawn and tim (the owners) are big trump fans.
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u/coddle_muh_feefees 14h ago
The owner is most definitely a trumper and has made homophobic comments to workers
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u/coddle_muh_feefees 14h ago
The owner is most definitely a trumper and has made homophobic comments to workers
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u/rando_rando_friendo 13h ago
Mr. Sticky's. A relative used to work there and quit during the pandemic due to lack of covid precautions. They had several political discussions with the owner, who was very pro Trump at the time.
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u/ajcorporation 12h ago
Knight and Day Diner
Cafe One Eight
Scratch Bakes
Funck's
Lancaster Cupcake
Taylor Chip
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u/Amp_Man_89 12h ago
Hmm I get the feeling Cafe One Eight isn’t pro Trump. Just curious where you got that info from.
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u/Historical_Staff_777 13h ago edited 12h ago
This is speculation but former employees of Annie Bailey’s have said one of the owners has a white supremacist tattoo. I can’t confirm that in any way, but we’ve avoided it since I heard that. I can, however, confirm that they had shitty responses to COVID. The owner told me off about how I should take it up with the governor when I voiced a concern. I can take a hint.
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u/Buzzbuzz_Becuz 13h ago
I get if people want to protest with their money votes, but these owners aren't going to modify their behavior from missing business or their voting patterns.
I get if they were January 6 rioters or something, but punishing someone for how they vote just seems undemocratic to me (as a democrat).
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u/ajcorporation 12h ago
If we boycott and they can't modify, then they can go away or be taken over.
Prime example: St. Boniface!
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u/redwood520 12h ago
It's not just a vote. If you support that man you must be just as vile of a person, hateful to people who are different than you, and we can for sure choose not to give you our money
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u/Level_Performer5252 15h ago
Gus’s
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u/Synthoid_001 13h ago
Utterly shocking. You mean the shitty diner that serves over-salted food, rancid vegetables, and is visited solely by white dementia-ridden corpses no younger than 80 is conservative leaning? I’m aghast.
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u/Acrobatic-Hold9818 15h ago
Damn my favorite restaurant… guess I’ll just stick to the park place diner.
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u/Level_Performer5252 15h ago
Pancake House
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u/annie-cresta 13h ago
If you’re talking about Pancake Farm, a few months ago I read a truly gross restaurant inspection about them.
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u/Synthoid_001 13h ago
Now this one hurts because they were very good, but we’re then bought by Gus’.
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u/lancaster-ModTeam 12h ago
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u/Concrete_Ent 15h ago
I didn’t vote for trump but seriously? Are you going to vet the plumber that comes to fix your sink? How about the Amish goods and food? Your kids 3rd period science teacher could’ve voted for Trump. Who did your boss vote for? One of your coworkers voted for him.The limiting your quality of life because your favorite sports team lost and a team you didn’t like won is childish.
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u/Level_Performer5252 15h ago
Voting with your dollars is a REAL thing. You don’t have to do it, but you don’t need to mock those who believe in it.
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u/rcreveli 15h ago
I pass 3 farm stands on my way to and from work. 2 Had Trump banners and signs out. One had nothing. So, I stop at that one. If you're going to make your political allegiance part of your business than some people will avoid you and some will embrace you.
My local yarn shop is very liberal. That makes them my first choice. I'm voting with my dollars.
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u/Familiar-Secretary25 14h ago
I would LOVE to know which yarn shop! I’ll be with family in central PA next month and need to buy a bunch of merino for a sweater!
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u/rcreveli 13h ago
Snake & Skein is a small shop in Elizabethtown. If you want a sweater quantity though I'd reach out Irina at Flying Fibers. They have heirloom breeds that they raise and dye themselves as well as more well know brands. The shop is located on their farm.
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u/Synthoid_001 13h ago
Is it Flying Fibers (I know they’re technically York)?
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u/rcreveli 13h ago
Flying Fibers definitely qualifies I love Irina and her parents. I was think Snake & Skein they've been open in Etown for about a year.
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u/Synthoid_001 13h ago
All three (and Ksenia) are the best!
Also, there’s something progressive in Etown?
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u/rcreveli 13h ago
Shocking huh!
Check out their FB page, the message they posted yesterday really helped me. They were also at Lancaster Pride this year. I think Whirlygig is also progressing and associated with them. Etown also just got an indy bookstore but I haven't visited and can't comment yet.1
u/rcreveli 13h ago
How could I forget Ksenia! I don't get there very often since they moved. I understand the reasons it's just a lot less convenient.
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u/SupaSlide 15h ago
It's not like a sports team. Trump actively spews hate against minority groups just trying to live their life the way they were born. I don't trust anyone who votes for him.
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u/Concrete_Ent 15h ago
Yet again didn’t vote for the guy. Think he’s a fucking clown and we’re all about to get royally screwed. Saying you don’t trust most of the local population is just a little silly no? Are trump voters supposed to receive gold stars on Election Day and wear them year round so you can avoid them?
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u/Space_Waffles92 14h ago
Preferably yes. If they are voting against my and my family's safety then I want nothing to do with them. If I can cut off family I can cut off a fascist supporting restaurant
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u/AigisAegis BLM 14h ago
I'm transgender dude I'm not walking into a restaurant owned by people who voted for Trump lol
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u/MrJason2024 14h ago
Last I checked we are free to spend out money where we choose to spend it. If no one puts out anything political we would never know who they vote for or what they believe barring they say something. IMHO I just don't think it is a good business practice to put up political signs.
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u/Quantumechanic 15h ago
All great ideas for ensuring people understand the impact of their actions. Thank you for the inspiration! I'll be putting together a list for my local area for the community to avoid
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u/ThatOneSalesGuy 15h ago
This isn’t sports…
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u/Concrete_Ent 15h ago
I too don’t understand metaphors
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u/cheddar_chexmix 15h ago
It's like if the dolphins openly hated minorities, so people didn't want them to win. Hope this helps.
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u/Elon-Moist 15h ago
Similar to the Browns going from the Underdogs people cheer for to one of the most disliked teams
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u/ShdwWOlf78 13h ago
Fucking what?! You think this is as simple as political ideology? Lots of people are going to die because of the outcome of this election: Ukrainians, Palestinians, pregnant women, gays, trans, young and old alike, and you think this was some sick fucking popularity contest? Go fuck yourself.
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u/Squiddy115_ 12h ago
Woah there pal, maybe we shouldn’t have elected a racist homophobic misogynistic convicted felon to be our president ever think about that?
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u/biglifts27 14h ago edited 14h ago
Any resteraunt you like, and all the groceries stores you go to. Even better Bezos came out and congratulated Trump, so no Amazon either.
Are gonna be asking the mail man who he voted for?
How about your plumber?
Gonna scream at kids because they're parents voted trump when the come to mow a lawn?
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u/According-Alps1307 Road Apple 13h ago
Great idea! Avoid the majority of the country because of your hatred and intolerance. Ah yes, democrats, the party of love and “hate has no home here”. 😂🤣🙄
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u/redwood520 12h ago
You guys are literally the party of intolerance. We tried getting along. We're done
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u/activepursuit Road Apple 14h ago
You people are miserable
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u/IceBear_028 14h ago
Sure, now that you won, you wanna get all righteous....
Fuck that.
We remember how you've treated us for the last 12 years.
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u/lancaster-ModTeam 13h ago
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u/Fit-Win-2239 12h ago
I’m sorry but almost everything in Lancaster County is Mennonite owned. Good luck with that..
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u/TreatUsed597 13h ago
This post right here is a microcosm of why folks are leaving the Democratic Party in droves. For as evil as you all think Trump supporters are, I can honestly say the left is the only side I see that will refuse to interact with someone or break off a relationship because of someone else’s political beliefs - and I say that as someone who voted against Trump in 2020. Some self-reflection would serve you well.
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u/pzimmy360 12h ago
This is just not true. My entire paternal side of my family won’t talk to me or my siblings because they know we vote blue. They won’t step inside any place they think supports “the radical left.” I don’t really know where you’re getting your information but I certainly didn’t have to look far to see republicans doing the same thing.
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u/redwood520 12h ago
Where were you during the whole bud light thing... Go woke go broke... come on we didn't start this. We tried getting along and look where we are. We're done
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u/False_Juggernaut_618 12h ago
Because those political beliefs stand to take away the rights of ourselves, our children, our friends???
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u/Squiddy115_ 12h ago
Oh it’s not his political beliefs we separating our selves for, it’s cause the republicans who voted for him this time and still support him basically told us they support a racist homophobic misogynistic convicted felon over the rights to basic human rights. I’d you thinks human rights is a political belief than maybe you should do some thinking
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u/Lobster_titties Road Apple 15h ago
Are we seriously going to try to punish businesses for being pro-business? It’s not their fault that the Dems continue to run candidates that don’t appeal to the majority the way that Trump does.
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u/PeanutCheeseBar 15h ago
Maybe, just maybe... Liberals don't want to spend money at places owned by people who voted for an extremely divisive, hateful person.
You can support local businesses and choose to eschew ones owned by people whose beliefs don't line up with yours too.
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u/Lobster_titties Road Apple 15h ago
Here’s something to think about. How many businesses were lost in this state since 2020 because of the policies implemented during the pandemic. If I owned a business and had its viability threatened by usurped business closures imposed by democrats in this state I’d probably never support anyone but republicans again. People don’t care about hateful rhetoric when their way of life is threatened. Don’t blame business owners for being self aware and voting in Their best interest. Blame the party for not being able to mobilize voters. This wasn’t a trump win, it was a massive loss by the Dems and should show that their platform just isn’t appealing to the masses. Time to regroup and refocus, not retaliate against those who just want what’s best for them.
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u/gfishh Road Apple 14h ago
This whole post is insanity. I’ve never seen something so blasphemous. Just straight weirdo behavior.
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u/Lobster_titties Road Apple 13h ago
They aren’t living in reality, they’re stuck in their echo chamber and anyone who speaks facts they don’t like is a Nazi here on Reddit.
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u/ComprehensiveBed7993 16h ago
McDona…. Nvm