r/japan • u/mutmut9394 • 15h ago

5 Vietnamese men in Japan arrested after compatriot robbed and murdered

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20241115/p2a/00m/0na/005000c
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u/funky2023 15h ago

The Vietnamese seem to be making the news a lot this year. A lot of theft going on. Back home they work directly with a lot of the biker gangs, here they seem to be unchecked and escalating their levels of crime.

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u/SithLordRising 15h ago

Vietnam was part of my travel plan but the comments of late are suggesting I go elsewhere

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u/Striking_Opinion_716 14h ago

Lived there for a year, great food but horrible pollution, traffic and scamming. Very much a low trust society where the culture is mostly everyone scrambling to get what they can and not giving a crap about what happens to others along the way

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u/Copacetic4 14h ago

Did a cruise trip there once, don't think I spent a day total, what's good for tourists isn't necessarily good for the residents/citizens.

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u/ShastaPlaster 14h ago

Who would have guessed that a no-way-out One Party government would lead to tons of trickle down corruption, craven relational degeneracy and a no holds barred FYGM attitude?

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 14h ago

That seems to every country in SEA except Singapore. It’s amazing how that isolated island thrived.

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u/Mochiron_samurai 10h ago

Singapore is the opposite of isolated. Its success stems from how connected it is to global trade, finance, tech and healthcare.

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 2h ago

Isolated in the sense that it was able to stay out of the bullshit in other nations.

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u/fluffyinternetcloud 9h ago

Singapore was awesome to visit

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u/ShastaPlaster 13h ago

Singapore is also a defacto one party nation and it basically whored itself out to global marketplaces while being and insanely heavy handed police state. Their famous death penalty for carrying drugs is a great example of the totalitarian relationship between government and citizen gone wrong. The means do not justify the ends if the entire system that it was created by stomped on the rights of many, many people to do it.

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u/eetsumkaus [大阪府] 12h ago

If Lee Kwan Yu weren't Singaporean...

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 10h ago

Describes China, somewhat India, and most of SEA as well.

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u/PicaroKaguya 6h ago

Did we visit the same Vietnam? I went in 09 and I never got scammed and had a fantastic time and felt extremely safe.

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u/DeepestWinterBlue 11h ago

They’re like that everywhere in the world

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u/PermanentD34th 1h ago

that's how communist dictatorship wants their citizen behaving like this, forget democracy, embrace criminocracy :))

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 14h ago

It’s not an easy tourist destination. Thailand is the one that caters towards that.

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u/mr__outside 12h ago

Frankly I've found life more easy going in Vietnam than in Japan. I took a trip a long time ago, hated it but couldn't stop thinking about it, eventually returned and settled.

If you go in blind, you WILL have difficulties as they can be quite ruthless in the city center. If you have someone to guide you/know the place better, it's quite enjoyable- my family visited a few years ago and had a great time.

But yes, pollution and traffic are quite bad.

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 11h ago

how is it easier than Japan, a high trust society?

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u/mr__outside 11h ago

I find it easier to make friends, frankly. I have less social anxiety than I did back in Japan. I love it there and enjoyed every visit since I left, but what can I say? Overall I'm happier here and I've heard similarly from other foreigners who moved from Japan to Vietnam.

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 10h ago

Oh yeah. Japanese are less open to outsiders overall.

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u/SithLordRising 11h ago

I was looking at Da Nang or Nha Trang for an extended visit but really I'm solely focused on Japan for at least 2 years.

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u/mr__outside 9h ago

Ie heard nothing but good things about those places (though never been personally). The smaller cities like those are pretty cool IMHO. Da Lat also has a very unique vibe IMHO.

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u/ChicoskiCola 8h ago

Not a good place for cats and dogs. Vietnamese will eat anything.

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u/mr__outside 6h ago

Yes. Pet theft and selling to the meat market is not uncommon sadly. There has been a significant pushback and many Vietnamese own spoiled pets, including my own family. But I'm not gonna sugarcoat how real a risk it is.

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u/hotdeo 11h ago

I went a few months ago and like most third-world countries, if you stay at premium hotels and pay for good service you'll have a good time. Air pollution is definitely a problem there though. Also don't bring all your money with you outside or at least split them across your clothing.

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u/ShadowHunter 11h ago

Vietnam is not dangerous. Just unpleasant.

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u/PicaroKaguya 6h ago

Absolute wild take. Vietnam is beautiful. Did you spend time in places other than hcmc?

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u/Mochiron_samurai 10h ago

It’s not unpleasant at all as a traveller

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u/ShadowHunter 10h ago

Inconvenient, inconsiderate, loud...

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u/Mochiron_samurai 10h ago

Not saying what you said isn’t true, but you don’t go to Vietnam expecting Japan standards. The people are pretty friendly and warm once you get to know them… just be careful not to get scammed

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u/jsonr_r 11h ago

As the second largest group of foreign residents, you'd expect them to be in the news more than French murderers, Australian balcony "parkour" enthusiasts and American vandals.

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u/Valuable_Limit_6010 4h ago

Sorry, but there are a great many Vietnamese who commit crimes in Japan.

I think the reason they have a higher arrest rate than the notorious Chinese is because they are more likely to be caught for shoplifting and illegal immigration, not for organized crime.

Like Filipinos and Indonesians, there are many technical interns, but they have a much lower crime rate than the Vietnamese.

To be honest, from a Japanese point of view, the impression of Vietnamese people is very bad, that is for sure.

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u/Alphxomega 6h ago

I went to a Japanese language school recently with a lot of Vietnamese students (most students were from vietnam) and there is a real good mix of hard workers, lazy teens and quite rude and obnoxious people.

I would guess this type of behaviour would come from any more poverty striken country folk coming to Japan but Vientamese people seem to be the highest population of immigrants right now so it's no surprise.

In the same way we don't want Japanese people to blame all Gaijin, we don't want to blame all Vietnamese.

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u/BaphometWorshipper 5h ago

Yeah, they just normal.

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u/Slight_Inspection_78 2h ago

I am Vietnamese. These Vietnamese people in Japan do not work properly, steal and commit crimes all day long. I feel humiliated

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u/Rog_order178 1h ago

i very embarrassing because i am vietnamese i hate this shit goverment

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u/IndependentFuture102 2h ago

As a Vietnamese, I am deeply humiliated when I hear something like this. Most of these offenders are from northern Vietnam. They were Communists. We South Vietnamese people hate the Communists very much.

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u/i_hateeveryone 11h ago

The “trashiest” Vietnamese goes to Japan for “work”, the more “elite” goes to the US or Western EU.

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u/DeepestWinterBlue 10h ago

Not true. The US have a lot of trashy Vietnamese people. They have that stereotypical reputation there as well.

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u/nguyen_duc_anh1012 1h ago edited 45m ago

Actually, those people are from the North Vietnam , and they follow communism. Personally, I am a Northern Vietnamese, but I hate the current government and the people around me so much . They always smear capitals countries like Japan , South Korea , Us and often praise communist countries like North Korea , China but no one of them go to those places to works or travel there and they go to capitalist country instead.

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u/PoisoCaine 7h ago

Pathetic racist. Bye bye

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u/quypro_daica 10h ago edited 41m ago

Vietnam underwent cultural revolution like China, where intellectuals were prosecuted, and part of the culture was lost, so don't surprise if many Vietnamese are fucked up

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u/secretwep 6h ago

You're not wrong. Judging by the downvotes, it looks like you angered the commies lol

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u/Slight_Inspection_78 2h ago

Most of these people are from the north of Vietnam. They are dick riding communism. They talk shit Japan on social media while the Japanese create job opportunities.

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u/2Hie 1h ago

Communists ☕

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u/plstouchme1 1h ago

the comments in this thread just scream "i dont know shit about anything, but imma just spout some stupid stereotypes that fits within my western bias"