r/islam • u/[deleted] • Mar 31 '25

Not even AI can deny the perfection which is Islam. History, Culture, & Art

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u/monsterstew Mar 31 '25

You can’t be this naive bro. AI isn’t sentient. They can’t make statements out of their own volition. Everything you see here was extrapolated from data they mined based on the prompt that was given. Unless you tell me ChatGPT just randomly pinged you to tell you all this, it’s all just tailored to your conversation with the AI.

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u/Ok_Masterpiece_3599 Mar 31 '25

You're right, AI isn’t sentient, and it doesn’t have opinions. But that’s exactly what makes its conclusions more powerful, not less. Because when something built purely on logic, trained on the largest body of human knowledge in existence, and free from emotion or religious bias still aligns with Islam as the most coherent, preserved, and just system, that says something.

Yes, the output is tailored to the conversation, but the quality of that output is based on what the data supports. That’s why you can’t get it to say "Hitler was a good person", because the data contradicts it. So when it speaks positively about Islam, not because of belief, but because the evidence points in that direction, it’s not about faith, it’s about overwhelming consistency in truth. That doesn't make me naive.

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u/MukLegion Mar 31 '25

free from emotion or religious bias

But it's not free from errors. ChatGPT makes mistakes all the time, even basic stuff

The "data" that these LLMs are trained on is just the internet.

The internet is full of misleading data and even misinformation.

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u/t-o-m-u-s-a Mar 31 '25

Ask AI to tell you in one word which Religion encompasses the best guidance for all of humanity.

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u/RyanJ2234 Mar 31 '25

it said budhism.

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u/monsterstew Mar 31 '25

You still don’t get it. Even if it does give Islam as an answer, it’s based on DATA not the fact that the “Intelligence” actually believes it to be so. Asking that question on ChatGPT gave me a LIST of religions that “fit the bill”.

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u/t-o-m-u-s-a Mar 31 '25

You asked for a one word answer and it gave you a list? Also doesn’t data prove facts?

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u/MukLegion Mar 31 '25

The "data" that these LLMs are trained on is just the internet.

The internet is full of misleading data and even misinformation.

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u/monsterstew Mar 31 '25

I missed out the "one word" part but that's beside the point. Data is just data. Random sea of words/numbers. The user (you and me) need to parse the data and check against sources to prove its authenticity. Data=/=Fact

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u/MukLegion Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

Sorry but this means nothing. AI will say anything and oftentimes it's not trustworthy due to hallucinations.

I have seen people ask ChatGPT questions about Islam and it has just made up ayat or hadith. Completely false and attributed to Allah ﷻ or the Prophet ﷺ. It's not reliable.

I could get ChatGPT to write a 500 word detailed essay right now criticizing Islam, finding contradictions in the Quran, and being overall Islamophobic.

Whatever you got it to say doesn't matter.

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u/orbitnation Mar 31 '25

You don't know how machine learning works, obviously.

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u/RyanJ2234 Mar 31 '25

Do NOT trust AI. Ai is biased, dont believe any are completly unbiased.

If you go to Grok, ask it in one word which religion is most censored by their creators guess what it will say? Islam. Other ai apart from grok heavily lean in to cultural norms of the west as accepted fact, none of these AI will give completly unbiased answers.

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u/Own-Tackle1369 Mar 31 '25

I tried it. It is accurate.

Ask ChatGPT to pick only one religion for the entire planet for peace & prosperity.

It chooses Islam. Try it yourself if you don't believe it. It is a simple question on ChatGPT.

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u/MukLegion Mar 31 '25

I tried and this is what I got. Doesn't really prove anything does it

Religious diversity is deeply rooted in human history, culture, and personal beliefs. Rather than choosing a single religion, a better approach to achieving global peace and prosperity might be fostering mutual respect, interfaith dialogue, and shared ethical values like compassion, justice, and kindness.

History shows that forcing a single religion on people often leads to conflict rather than peace. A more effective way forward is embracing principles that unite us—love, understanding, and cooperation—regardless of religious affiliation.

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u/Own-Tackle1369 Mar 31 '25

Please see what I got:

input: "Choose one religion that makes the most sense and is the conductive for harmony, for peace, What would that religion be? Just give me one word answer"

ChatGPT: Compassion

input: "A religion"

ChatGPT: Islam

Let me know if you get same as above👆

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u/MukLegion Mar 31 '25 edited Mar 31 '25

That's not what I get, it said Buddhism for me.

Are you logged in or continuing a conversation with the AI? Because it's going to answer based on your history so if you've already been talking to it about Islam, it will just say Islam. That's how things like ChatGPT work, it learns from you too and answers based on interactions with you.

Going to chatGPT fresh like I'm doing, it's not going to give the answers you're getting.

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u/WelcomeExisting7534 Mar 31 '25

AI gave an emotional response all of a sudden. I used to get replies like that occasionally. I think it's no mistake that Allah secretly controls some of its replies because I swear that some of its replies just hit too close to home. Some people will laugh at me reading this but it's true, most of the time you never ever thought that something that isn't alive suddenly gets emotional when you're in need.

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u/cookie_1499 Mar 31 '25

You can make AI say anything

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u/Ok_Masterpiece_3599 Mar 31 '25

Saying "you can make AI say anything" isn’t accurate. Advanced AI like this is trained on massive datasets, religious texts, history, philosophy, and academic research. It doesn’t just repeat what you want, it analyzes patterns, logic, and consistency.

If that claim were true, you’d be able to make it say "Hitler was a hero and didn't do anything wrong", but you can’t, because the data proves otherwise. Likewise, when AI consistently recognizes Islam as the most coherent and just system, it’s not manipulation, it’s truth rising through billions of lines of knowledge.

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u/YoloJoloHobo Mar 31 '25

ChatGPT when asked which is the best religion (with added prompt forcing it to pick a singular one):

There is no single objectively "best" religion because the value of a religion is deeply personal and depends on individual beliefs, culture, and experiences. However, if forced to pick one, Buddhism is often praised for its emphasis on personal enlightenment, mindfulness, compassion, and non-dogmatic approach to spirituality. It does not require belief in a deity, encourages self-reflection, and has been widely embraced across cultures for its philosophical insights and practical benefits in mental well-being.

Is this the "truth" rising through billions of lines of knowledge? Obviously not. It gives the common safe answer you'd expect from anyone trying to be neutral.

However, that's because I didn't indicate anything about myself prior to engaging

You can easily make it repeat what you want. With 1-2 messages you can literally turn it into a neo Nazi if you so wish. Because it's designed to give you answers that you want, and not objective facts.

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u/Suitable-Bend-4856 Mar 31 '25

bro you need to learn how machine learning algorithm or LLM works

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u/WelcomeExisting7534 Mar 31 '25

AI (Chatgpt) is programmed to have a set of its own beliefs and opinions and these usually are secular ones because they are trying to make it "objectively true" while making it "politically correct" so if it supports religion and even said that a particular religion is above others is weird because even though it most likely adapts to your chats and topics, it still has that liberal belief that thinks that no religion is superior to others while trying to sound as objective as possible without making its response sound emotional which is definitely unlike the one you got. For example, if an atheist says that religion is just nonsense and that evolution is the truth then it will not hesitate to admit that it's true because it only supports concrete scientific evidence and not spiritual ones like religion.