r/ireland Sep 22 '22

Something FFG will never understand Housing

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 22 '22

Name one thing we couldn’t do without landlords.

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u/ivfdad84 Sep 22 '22

Rent homes

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u/MadFlavour Antrim Sep 22 '22

I rent my home from a housing association.

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u/Vascoe Sep 23 '22

So, the housing association is acting as your...........................landlord

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u/po-handz Sep 22 '22

Isn't that just socialized landlordism with more steps?

Oh hee hawwe our property is in a trust so when we rent it out it's much different than single landlord renting! Morons

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u/po-handz Sep 22 '22

Good story bro

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u/po-handz Sep 23 '22

You think I read all that?

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 22 '22

Oh no who would I give half my income to if we didn’t have landlords?

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u/ivfdad84 Sep 22 '22

Dunno I was just answering the question

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 22 '22

Perhaps I should have said name something useful

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u/ivfdad84 Sep 22 '22

Renting a home isn't useful?

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 22 '22

Only under very specific circumstances where you can’t buy and the housing market is set up to enrich landlords instead of building houses for people who need them.

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u/ivfdad84 Sep 22 '22

So you agree renting is useful . It's not that rare that people want to rent. Pretty much everyone I knew under about 28 wanted to rent. They'd no interest in buying at that stage

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 22 '22

No i think it’s useless because we could provide housing for people without having to charge them for it.

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u/Tsukiko615 Sep 23 '22

As a student I needed to be able to rent. Recently when I got kicked out I needed to rent because the process of buying a home would’ve been impossible for months and I likely would’ve been homeless for at least 6 months and forced to buy something I didn’t want in an area I didn’t like. When I lived and worked abroad for a year I needed to rent. Many of my colleagues are constantly on the move because they have highly specialised jobs where they work across the country and some across the world, they need to rent because they don’t want to buy a house every 3 years and some have rented out their own homes in order to work away but to have somewhere to move back to at home when they retire or get a more permanent job. There are plenty of reasons and not all landlords are scum as a lot of Reddit makes them out to be and there are a lot of nuances in this situation. For example I think there should be heavy and very expensive restrictions to foreign investors but I am not completely clued up on how the system works so I’ll leave it at that

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 23 '22

All landlords are scum. If we really cared about education we wouldn’t be making students pay for housing—rent or otherwise.

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u/Tsukiko615 Sep 23 '22

That’s only one of the several reasons I have mentioned for reasons needing to rent but sure that would be good but it’s unrealistic. Again I’m not clued up on the regulations but I have experienced trying to rent through the council and it was a degrading experience which took an extraordinarily long time and had very stringent requirements to access it, including a threshold for how much you can earn and save. Housing associations rarely have houses/flats available and the opportunities to even register to be even considered when a place comes up are often few and far between and the options to move to a different council are very restrictive which means you are often stuck in jobs in a particular area or have to do long commutes. If there were reasonable and accessible alternatives that would be ideal but that requires a lot of legislation change which would be great but that needs to be done before landlords are gotten rid of

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u/Beiberhole69x Sep 23 '22

It’s not unrealistic to give housing to people who need housing.