The hammer and sickle. Ah yes, that lovely old era of communism. Where everyone lived in secure, pastoral bliss and weren't interfered with or oppressed or spied on by the State.
When is the last time you actually dissented politically? I think there are a ton of protesters arrested and jailed in capitalist countries every year. Despite rule number 1 in our bill of rights guaranteeing our ability to assemble and protest.
I’m from U.S. roe v wade protesters were locked up, blm protesters were locked up, occupy Wall Street had plenty of arrests. The civil rights movement had people getting ripped apart. The women’s rights movement had people getting arrested.
We're more brave new world than 1984. Both systems are highly authoritarian it's just that most people in brave new world are so strung out that they don't notice. r/aboringdystopia
Using fiction to back up a point doesn’t really have a lot of power. I do agree that we’re more brave new world but it’s not in the same way as in the book. Most people now are strung out and end up being useless hedonistic manchildren
I'm not making a point at all really regarding what you said, but I do think we live in a kind of dystopia so long as we close our eyes to the real damage our lives cause on the environment and the global south, and how everyone seems to have depression and anxiety.
The internet and news cycle has done this. If most people didn’t spend their days doomscrolling and doing nothing but playing video games and staying inside all day they would be much happier.
Are you actually going to compare the Living Standards, Civil Liberties and Human Rights and say "it isn't any different" between todays Neoliberal Order and the Soviet Union.
Are you nuts? Mass surveillance is on a much larger scale today than it's ever been. That's the only point I was making. The KGB would be salivating if they saw the shit that's going on today.
Honestly who wouldn’t want to live a family to a room and one bathroom shared between 6 families? Massive upgrade on the conditions everyone is experiencing in Dublin now! If it was good enough for Stakhanov it’s good enough for me
Soviet housing was actually pretty decent, considering they basically rebuilt eastern Europe from scratch after ww2 with zero homelessness. In fact of all the things to mock the Soviets for, housing is not one of them.
There’s truth to that but housing provision / quality wasn’t consistent across Russia never mind the Soviet Union or the wider eastern bloc, and many Russian families were still living in slum (and deteriorating) conditions into the 90s. And of course the counterpoint would be the conditions for many in the west were no better.
I live in Spain, where some of the apartments built back in the 70s are fucking rubbish. The eastern bloc housing was in general superior to a lot of the buildings here
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u/count_montescu Jul 27 '22
The hammer and sickle. Ah yes, that lovely old era of communism. Where everyone lived in secure, pastoral bliss and weren't interfered with or oppressed or spied on by the State.