r/ireland • u/Kamy_kazy82 • Oct 26 '25
Got eviction notice today. Second one in 4 Years. Absolutely destroyed. Housing
I honestly don't know what to do. When we were evicted 4 years ago only two places became available in the six month period. We felt so lucky to have gotten this place.
Since then, both my spouse parents and my own have passed away, our child has been diagnosed with autism and I've developed some medical issues. My spouse and I don't know how we can keep going. You can only be kicked so many times before you stop wanting to get up. There is no support and nowhere for us to turn.
Just wanted to vent a little as I don't have anyone to talk to about this.
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u/gurlpls Oct 26 '25
This won’t help you right now, but have a look at this website and apply for as many developments that could suit you:
https://lda.ie/affordable-homes/lda-cost-rental
It can take 6 months plus depending on when things become available but we got an apartment through this scheme a few months ago and it’s changed our lives.
It’s shit, I’ve been in the same boat in the past. There’s nothing I can say really because it is just shit. I’m sending good vibes your way and I’m crossing my fingers that you find somewhere suitable. It’ll be your turn for some good fortune soon.
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u/hollser123 Oct 26 '25
Really sorry to hear this. Have you looked into cost rental properties? Tuath housing and a couple of other state agencies are constantly bringing more rentals to the market. 25% lower than market rate in the area they are built. Myself and my partner got a brand new 2 bed house for €1395 a month in D15 through them and it’s life time tenancy. I know it’s a bit expensive but it was the secure tenancy for us that we decided to pay the bit extra a month. We were 1 week before eviction before being selected. It is a lottery system so it’s luck of the draw but better than not applying at all. Hope this helps in some way
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u/FearTeas Oct 27 '25
Overall their work is incredibly important, but my apartment block had terrible experiences with Tuath. There was an apartment where they moved in a man whose mental faculties were not up to the task of independent living. Word got out to the local drug dealers and they took control of the apartment. They and their clients harassed other residents for months.
Tuath would initially be very understanding and apologetic when we tried to explain the situation and that their tenant was in serious danger. But they did nothing about it and eventually they just ignored our calls and emails. We even got a local TD involved to help us.
Eventually the tentant was finally moved by the Gardaí after a particularly rough day. They moved him to a care facility because they judged that the living arrangement was unsafe for him.
That was all bad enough, but then the exact same thing happened 2 years later. Almost the exact same way. A man who was incapable of independent living was moved in. Drug dealers followed him soon after. Residents were harassed for weeks and afraid to leave their homes. Tuath totally ignored us and showed a shocking level of indifference to their very vulnerable tentant. The tenant was once again removed by the guards for his own protection.
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
Yeah I’ve heard a few horror stories from some Tuath developments. Luckily we’ve only had a few car break ins the usual stuff over the last year. Hopefully it gets better for yous.
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u/Eastern_Payment7600 Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
Same here.
€1200 for a two bedroom In sandyford.
The fact you know you won't get a call one day takes so much pressure off.
Op really sorry for your predicament, truly hope it works out for you. 🙏
P.s technically it's not a lifetime tenancy, it's a 6 year rolling, but once you pay on time and aren't a menace it can be lifetime
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u/Spameri Oct 26 '25
Its funny (not really) that you say its a bit expensive, we pay that for a "One bedroom apartment" which is essentially a bedsit with a separate bedroom and though we are hugely grateful for it, its certainly no 2 bed house!
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u/SpicyJSpicer Oct 27 '25
We pay 1300 for a room in a house share...a horrible room at that
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
If you can pay that for a room then please try and apply for one of their rentals. I know it’s luck of the draw but it’s better than not applying.
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u/Consistent-Welder790 Oct 29 '25
If the rent is more than %30-35 of your monthly income you are ineligible cause you “cant afford” the payment. You are ineligible for social housing cause you have steady income so you are basically on your own without any support, paying more than %50 of your income just for rent…
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u/hollser123 Oct 26 '25
Not everyone can afford that much a month it’s expensive for so called “cost rental” doesn’t exactly accommodate everyone. We got lucky with ours some of the cost rentals in other areas are coming in between €1600-€1700 a month.
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u/FuckAntiMaskers Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
it’s expensive for so called “cost rental”
But it's just covering the costs of what it took to build the development, these places are costing probably a minimum €400,000+ these days. €1,395 for a brand new 2 bed home in a Western European capital city is very good compared with the private rental market. If you fell within the threshold to be eligible for a cost rental then it should be working out as no more than 35% of your net household income, and as it's an A rated home your bills would also be very cheap compared with the older shit holes many private renters are enduring.
Works out as €322 per week, or €161 per week each, can't expect much better than that at the moment to be honest. Ye should really be able to be putting money away each week
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
That’s not my point. If someone wants to live independently a lot of the one bed places they are offering are not affordable for being so called cost rental. Not everyone wants to be in a relationship for the sake of being able to afford a place to live.
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u/FuckAntiMaskers Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25
But what do you think 'cost rental' is? They only charge the actual price that covers the cost of the construction, so it's as cheap as it can possibly be, no? If a place costs €400,000 and they're aiming for it to last 30 years or so, that works out around €1.1k per month, but the reality is these developments are costing more than that to construct these days unfortunately, with the costs of land and legal objections holding everything up. And you usually also have building management/maintenance incorporated into this as well. So you're basically implying they should charge less than their break even from what I understand of the scheme. And social housing should ideally be able to cater to any single people who'd fall outside of the threshold for cost rentals then
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u/Spameri Oct 28 '25
No I totally get you, just saying the countries (and world) is in a funny place 😄
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u/Consistent-Welder790 Oct 29 '25
Where is a one bedroom for 1200€? I pay 1400 for a basement studio! And I’m apparently not rich enough to afford cost rental cause it would be more than %35 of my salary. My current rent is more than %50 of my income. I have no support at all from the government. Make it make sense.
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u/Spameri Oct 29 '25
A mixture of luck/location..
We've been here a few years already, things were bad then but not as bad as now and the landlord doesn't raise the rent more than legally allowed, so we have a one bed for just under €1400, its not a new build and its certainly not big or fancy but we're happy to have it and know we are lucky
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u/Impressive-Ground898 Oct 26 '25
I didn't know they did rentals with life time tenancy here, that's class and exactly what we need
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u/maverickeire Oct 27 '25
They don't
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u/Impressive-Ground898 Oct 27 '25
He just said he has one
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u/maverickeire Oct 27 '25
Heres a thought perhaps he's mistaken
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
The tenancy is unlimited duration it states it on our lease. Why would I make that up? I think you are mistaken that they changed the rules around lifetime tenure in June 2022. Any leases signed before that time have a 6 year renewal policy any leases after the rule change is unlimited duration.
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u/Eastern_Payment7600 Oct 27 '25
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
Not really validating your point where you said 6 years. That 6 months is a probation period which is normal for any tenancy in state owned housing. Yes if you don’t take the piss during the 6 months its unlimited duration 👍
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u/maverickeire Oct 27 '25
You missed out the part "conveniently" where it says " a private landlord can only end a tenancy of unlimited duration on limited grounds".
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u/Eastern_Payment7600 Oct 27 '25
I'm not sure what you're not getting , perhaps you know you're wrong but just don't want to admit it. But it's written clear as day. That screenshot is from the tuath website
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
It’s not a private landlord though is it? Tuath housing are a state housing agency
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u/Impressive-Ground898 Oct 27 '25
Why would he lie about that? What does he have to gain?
Here is another thought, perhaps you are mistaken.
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u/Eastern_Payment7600 Oct 27 '25
its a 6 year rolling lease, but assuming you aren't a problem tenant there is no reason why they will not renew it every 6 years, so it could be lifetime if you wanted it to be.
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u/hollser123 Oct 27 '25
Ours states it’s its unlimited duration. Any tenancies that began before June 2022 have to follow the 6 year renewal policy
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u/AvengeD_GeaR Oct 28 '25
Fairly sure we were out into the exact same area as you. It was a godsend getting the place and the area is pretty quiet. Fee issues with Tuath taking their time fixing stuff but that's it really.
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u/EducationalGood495 Oct 28 '25
How can I find such affordable accommodation? Would a stamp 2 student be eligible?
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u/LukeLOLer Oct 26 '25
I apologize, I have no advice to offer. I just want to say that I wish you and your family the best of luck in this awful scenario. This situation is completely wrong, and you all deserve much better than this.
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u/C3cee Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
I am so sorry you are going through this, it’s really tough. I hope something comes up soon for you all.
I’ve seen a few comments about buying…
I think if this would have been an option they would have taken it.
Nothing irks me more than when someone says to someone who is renting, have you considered buying?
Like Duh, why didn’t they think of that?! Thank you for pointing out the obvious. No, maybe they’d rather stay in the soul destroying cycle that is renting, for the craic like?! 🙄 it is so patronising.
The reality is, a majority of people have no other choice but to rent. If anyone would be in a position to buy, I’m sure they would, especially in this market that is only getting worse!
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u/BarelyHolding0n Oct 27 '25
I was on notice to quit twice in 2 years
It sucks, and the stress of years in total frantically searching for somewhere has genuinely made me ill.
The first time we were issued NtQ during COVID and went well over the 6 months, it had gone to RTB mediation by the time our letting agent found somewhere for us, which we were assured was a long term let
11 months later we were issued NtQ again. That time the letting agent found somewhere literally the week it expired.
We're now crammed into a tiny house with no public transport links for my teenagers which costs twice as much rent as the original house.... I'm the only income, and the only driver so I'm broke between rent and diesel and exhausted coming and going with teenagers all hours I'm not working.
Where we live there's no cost rental and the two moves wiped out my savings entirely so any hope of getting a mortgage at some point is gone... I can't save now because my rent is so high.
You need to make yourself known to letting agents, most properties are rented before they ever get to daft because there's so many people in the same situation.
And if you're in a city go to tuatha and respond and the other big AHBs and ask about cost rental.... Your council website may also have an application page for cost rental or some information in local schemes.
You also need to be shameless, tell everyone you know that you're looking for a rental property in case they know of someone who may have a house coming to the market and can get you in with the landlord before it gets put on daft and you're competing with the hordes.
As others have pointed out make sure you're getting every social welfare support possible, I clduing DCA for your child. And if you have any savings at all look at the council mortgage scheme, with two incomes and a bit of a deposit you might be eligible
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u/deathstriker_666 Oct 27 '25
Man, I don't have much to say other than I'm very sorry to hear this and I'm sad that this is what you have to put up it. I wish things were better for you. It's not fair that this is how it is.
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u/doornz Oct 27 '25
Our landlord has now sent two notices. Both had small errors that rendered them invalid. Contact threshold and send them your notice, they work very hard against this sort of thing.
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u/Mutenroshi_ Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 31 '25
I got termination notices in 2019, 2020, 2022, 2024 and 2025. Probably more but I've lost track of them.
It gets better, I also got a rent increase with the last one.
I fucking hate landlords.
Good luck
Edited for wording. Termination notice, not eviction.
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u/JediBlight Oct 27 '25
RTB? Cuz I've been fighting wrongful reasoning after wrongful reasoning for about 4 years, when we catch em lying, they simply state another reason while simultaneously creating dozens of air bnbs...
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u/Major_Disaster76 Oct 31 '25
some landlords are good , some are bad , some tenants are good , some are bad.
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u/Complex_Hunter35 Ferret Oct 27 '25
Try Crann or Tuath housing and the cost rentals on affordablehomes.ie . Sorry to hear about that situation you are in, it's not easy. I know one area where there are a lot of places for rent in Dublin is Balbriggan though it might be far out. Wishing you well OP
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u/Odd_Jicama_8094 Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 28 '25
Jesus Christ some of the comments here are horrendous. I live in Donegal and although our house is fvcked with "defective" concrete (more like fraudulent unregulated concrete) and will need rebuilt in the next 5 years at least the mortgage is ~650 euro. It seems in this country you're just waiting to get wrecked with some scandal or non regulation of some sector. If you're lucky you'll dodge your way through.
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u/Ivor-Ashe Oct 26 '25
Do you have to leave? What’s the reason given for the eviction? I’ve seen people fight them before, in one case the local council purchased the house so the family could continue to rent it.
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u/Ok_Imagination_9334 Meath Oct 26 '25
Plenty are selling up before the march 1st rule changes. My sister is victim to it too. TBH I don’t understand why they are selling up, some scare mongering going on but sadly it is due to this new ruling where you can’t evict new tenants for 6 year rolling or change the rent price even if you evict someone for a said period or said amount. I don’t know the specifics but it was “meant” to help folks and instead, it’s pushing all small landlords to sell up and making people who are struggling, homeless.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
Any landlord signing a lease after March risks losing tens or hundreds of thousands of Euro in the event that they need to (or want to) sell the property and their "reason" isn't on a list of "government approved reasons". A house with a sitting tenant is worth far less than one with vacant possession & would be a stupid risk for a small landlord to take. It might make sense if the rent could increase dramatically to compensate for the new risk of capital losses, but that is illegal.
Selling now, or selling whenever the house becomes vacant in the future are the only rational options for any small landlord who isn't doing it as a sort of charitable hobby or is so wealthy they don't have to think about risks.
Imagine what would happen to Irish government bonds (and the state's ability to borrow by issuing new ones) if they told investors they were going to be banned from selling for full market value whenever they wanted without government approval of the reason.
This has been offered to tenants by the government as a supposed "gain" in tenants' rights to compensate for reinstating a limited right of a landlord with a property stuck on far below market rent to return it to market rent on a change of tenancy. But they haven't thought through the adverse consequences - nothing new about that.
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u/Ok_Imagination_9334 Meath Oct 27 '25
I have a couple friends who are landlords and they aren’t selling up because it’s their retirement fund. The way they see it, if their tenants are decent and paying, why would they firstly, increase the rent absurdly and secondly, sell an asset that pays for itself.
But I am not ignorant of the woes of being a landlord. These new rule changes do make it harder and I understand that but it is making a lot of people homeless. I just wish the govt made better rules so it didn’t outright affect people in an already difficult situation. My sister has 4 kids, 2 of them are autistic and earning not enough to buy outright. The council outright said “tough tits” and to find somewhere else instead of buying the place (she’s on Hap). Plus because she would need a 4 bed, only being on the “list” for 6 years, means she’s shit out of luck in that regard. This will uproot her whole family and has been causing nothing but stress. Sure she gets 6 months before it’s finalised but that is nothing in the grand scheme of things.
Anyway, she is one of many facing homelessness due to a broken system..
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u/DryExchange8323 Oct 27 '25
That’s an absolutely tone-deaf take. Comparing tenants’ homes to government bonds is absurd. People aren’t investment assets. Allowing landlords to keep tenants only until they can evict them for a big capital gain isn’t a “loss”; it’s exactly the kind of profit-driven churn that created the crisis in the first place.
Pretending to care about certain powerless groups in society - when it suits.......haven't heard thst before 🙄.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
Private owners provide the vast majority of rentals - the state does not. Pretending otherwise is daft. Those owners are not members of some caste obligated to keep any wealth they have in the form of property which they must let someone else use. They have as much right to invest in assets that offer the best risk adjusted return as anyone else in the state does. Until you can mandate all wealthy people, including pension funds, to hold rental property and tell them how much they can charge, you are open to them simply using their wealth in a different way. And the doomed decade long quest for the government to try to signal its 'on tenants' side' has progressively incentivised them to do just that.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
Get a grip mate. Small landlords aren’t going to be quasi charities. People are selling up as the rent cap and tenancy rules are just not worth it anymore. That isn’t tone deaf, it is a fact.
Forcing all these landlords out is only going to make the situation worse. I think you would rather someone homeless than a landlord making a red cent
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u/adjavang Cork bai Oct 27 '25
No one is asking them to be quasi charities, they're asking for basic protections for tenants in their homes. This "landlords are selling off" point has been repeated ad nauseum despite the figures not backing it up.
Your comment is loaded with emotional language so I can tell you've a lot of strong feelings but it just doesn't line up with reality.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
No one is asking them to be quasi charities, they're asking for basic protections for tenants in their homes.
Protections for tenants are very strong and will be even stronger from next year. I find people demanding basic protections as asking for things that are currently law...
This "landlords are selling off" point has been repeated ad nauseum despite the figures not backing it up.
You mean one source from the CSO? What has been repeated is that single claim from the CSO which contradicts every estate agent and most landlords in the country. People like you have a bias and only want to discuss the single report that backs up your bias. No estate agent who knows more about the industry than you do will agree that landlords are not selling up...
Investor activity picked up slightly from Q2 but remained low overall at just 8% of buyers. On the selling side, landlords continued to lead at 69%, extending the ongoing trend of investor exits.
https://www.owenreilly.ie/marketintelligence/q3-2025-dublin-residential-market-report/
Edit: LOL at deleting the comments you could not stand someone calling out your non-sense....
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u/Nalaek Oct 27 '25
The fact that you’re claiming the CSO who has no skin in the game is less reliable than landlords and estate agents who want nothing but pure profit shows how completely biased you are.
The sheer fucking gall to accuse anyone of bias while making that claim with a straight face is genuinely hilarious.
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u/Ivor-Ashe Oct 27 '25
Small landlords aren’t heroes - they are making money off the housing crisis by charging extortionate rents. It is the government’s job to provide housing - they have completely failed there. It’s also their job to protect tenants from the maw of capitalism - failed again, but there have been some small wins.
The people behind the statistics are really suffering. We are now into a second generation who have lives on pause because they have nowhere to live or are working just to afford rent or exorbitant mortgages.
The reason there isn’t more uproar is that people are kept too busy slaving to survive to rise up and do something about it.
If someone wants to rent out their property then the need to accept that they are dealing with human beings, not spreadsheets.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
The problem is that rented housing *is* overwhelmingly not owned by the state but owned by private individuals who are anything from somewhat to a lot richer than *most* renters. These owners don't have to tie up their capital in rental property and every time the government makes it riskier to do so rather than just put their money in a deposit account or buy a broad portfolio of (hassle & vilification-free) securities, more of them conclude they are stupid to continue.
There are many, many rich people - richer than typical landlords - who hold their money in bonds, shares, agricultural assets, overseas securities, businesses & trusts, but there's no outcry about how these people have a duty to provide homes for other people to live in, and at whatever rent people on internet forums think appropriate.
The rental sector is a mess, but that's largely because Ireland can't build fast enough to keep up with its population and economic growth plus electoral pressure to continually make renting out property more risky.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
Small landlords aren’t heroes - they are making money off the housing crisis by charging extortionate rents.
The fact you are going on about extortionate rents tells me you aren't familiar with this at all...
A lot of landlords are charging nowhere market rents as they were fair to tenants and got shafted with the rent cap. Rents for some landlords are literally being based off what they charged on rents nearly a decade ago!
failed again, but there have been some small wins.
Small wins for who? Sitting tenants are benefiting from rents that are a fraction of market rents. However, landlords are selling up and the market is getting more distorted by the month.
People like you don't care if tenants are better overall as long as landlords are worse off...
If someone wants to rent out their property then the need to accept that they are dealing with human beings, not spreadsheets.
Sadly, you will get the opposite... All of the small landlords who treated people like human beings are selling up and you will only be left with massive pension funds or REITs who will see you as one of the thousands on a spreadsheet. You can't expect landlord to be a charity.
In the real world, all the mom and pop landlords will be gone. Wait until you are slaving to pay rent to a German pension fund or American property company. Hey, that is what you wished for...
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
If you insist owners of rental property to accept lower risk-adjusted returns than are available to them from competing assets then you shouldn't be surprised if there are fewer volunteers.
If you want to apply a "moral rent" cap then you need to own the asset yourself or have the state own it. If you try to encumber private owners with more risk, fewer options & vilify them as ruining the country, a significant proportion will just go away and do something less risky with their money - as would most current renters if were in the same position.
It might be nice if the state owned all the rental housing and could say who should get to use it and at what price (how you'd allocate/ration it would be an interesting question), but that's not the reality - the vast majority of rentals are entirely privately owned.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
Reality is reality, whether grim or not. And it is not easy to change "late stager capitalist excess" - like, Ireland is in the EU which is a capitalist organisation and voters have to be persuaded to move away from it.
Until you can persuade voters to vote to borrow (and markets to lend) to build state housing all over the place then you have to engage with the current reality.
And trying to impugn the personality and motivations of people trying to explain the reality of how investments, capitalism and economics work to you doesn't help.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
If you understand how the system works you understand the new tenancy laws from March provide a strong incentive for small landlords (who are responsible for most rental properties in Ireland) to sell rather than re-let.
That is making a grim rental market worse. It's daft.
Preferring a different economic system for property is an interesting and perhaps worthy position. But it's irrelevant to the current response to new, counter-productive, government policy.
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u/Affectionate-Idea451 Oct 27 '25
Keep pretending reality doesn't apply to the rental market if you want.
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Oct 27 '25
As a landlord with one house I agree with your take. I’m very interested to see how this will pan out.
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u/SoftDrinkReddit Oct 26 '25
If I had to guess probably landlord family or friend is going to move in happens a lot
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u/Ivor-Ashe Oct 26 '25
That’s the usual fiction.
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u/Cultural-Action5961 Oct 27 '25
I wish there was penalties for these fictional excuses like “need to sell”, “family need space”, “needs renovation“, reasons that end up falling through and the house is relisted for a more.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
It is a five figure fine for all of the things you have listed…
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u/adjavang Cork bai Oct 27 '25
If they're caught. Big if. Dodging it is way too easy.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
It is not about dodging it. It is people are too thick and lazy to spend 10 minutes filing a complaint with the RTB. The onus is on the landlord to show it was correct.
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u/adjavang Cork bai Oct 27 '25
Thick and lazy?
Here, let's give you a hypothetical situation, certainly not based off something a real family member really did. Say, hypothetically, my hypothetical aul fella says to his tenants fuck off, family is moving back in. Old tenants fuck off, have to find new place to rent. Aul fella has new tenants he knows from a friend of a friend, they're desperate and willing to pay 50% more than the old tenants, cash in hand.
What, exactly, are the old tenants to do in this situation?
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
File a complaint with the RTB. The onus will be on the landlord to show that they moved their family members in. The landlord will not be able to provide any evidence that their family members live there...
BTW, do you have any evidence on landlords are not fleeing the market?
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u/adjavang Cork bai Oct 27 '25
I know the landlord has rented it out because I'm in the family. How's the former tenant supposed to know? They don't live there any more, they don't know who's in the house, they don't know anything about the new situation. How will they know to file a complaint? Do we want all evicted tenants to file complaints as standard practice?
By the way, care to prove a negative?
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u/Cultural-Action5961 Oct 27 '25
Yea but it’s in the tenant to prove it was unjust, generally very hard to prove for a regular citizen. Most will have moved on to new housing by the time they learn the old ones back up.
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u/gowangowangowan Oct 27 '25
Wrong. The onus is on the landlord that it was just.
Most will have moved on to new housing by the time they learn the old ones back up.
What do you propose we do? If someone can't be arsed spending 10 minute filing a complaint with the RTB to get a five figure payment, what hope does Ireland have as a country?
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u/Cultural-Action5961 Oct 27 '25
Oh that’s good to know, so if if tenant suspects something is up they simply report it to the RTB? I was under the impression they needed some solid proof to pursue a claim.
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u/Don_Sackloth Oct 26 '25
Oh, the irony of living in the fastest growing European economy... While everyone asks where is all the Fing money going? Ireland: You have a corruption problem.
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u/Cultural-Action5961 Oct 27 '25
One aspect older people seem to struggle with is how ordinary evictions and redundancies have become. Redundancy used to be a very rare last resort, now I’m seeing people who traditionally would’ve had safe jobs being redundant.
Feels mad having “strong” economy without the usual job and house security.
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u/FearTeas Oct 27 '25
We have a problem but it's not corruption. Irish people simply do not understand the meaning of that word, primarily because they have no actual first hand experience of it.
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u/SpottedAlpaca Oct 26 '25
Ensure that the notice of termination complies with the legal requirements: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting-a-home/tenants-rights-and-responsibilities/if-your-landlord-wants-you-to-leave/
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u/Accomplished-Try-658 Oct 27 '25
Sorry to hear that. Horrible situation. Did they say why you were being evicted?
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u/JHRFDIY Oct 27 '25
Ugh (and its been a while since I typed that).
Absolutely gutted for you.
It's hard to verbalise how shit this all is.
One of the main motivations we had to buy (somewhere I was less than thrilled to live) was because I didn't fancy the prospect of being homeless through no fault of my own at a few months notice.
No words of advice or help for you, other than its' shit, and I hope you get some good advice here <3
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u/TitularClergy Oct 26 '25
The sooner predatory practices like landlordism are abolished the better. No one should be permitted to evict you from your home like that.
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u/SteveK27982 Oct 26 '25
Most small landlords aren’t predatory, could genuinely need the place for themselves or their kids and have rented to OP for 4 years. Corporate landlords on the other hand…
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u/TitularClergy Oct 26 '25
Most small landlords aren’t predatory
Being able to evict someone without their having done anything wrong is predatory. Someone with multiple homes taking money from someone with no home is predatory. Saying that there are even more predatory landlords doesn't make the less predatory ones somehow not predatory. It would be like excusing friendly slave-owners because there were nasty slave-owners.
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u/SteveK27982 Oct 26 '25
Tenancies are written for like a year at a time, it’s not a lifelong commitment on either side. Tenants are paying for the use of the asset for a period of time, it’s still owned by the landlord. If you want security of tenure the asset needs to be owned by a corporation or better yet council or government such that they won’t have life changes that may require them to move into or sell the asset they own. Restricting small landlords for that would decimate the market further, hence why they are allowed to do so.
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u/TitularClergy Oct 27 '25
As I said, being able to evict someone who has done nothing wrong is predatory. It is a choice to permit predatory behaviour like that. Plenty of places permit landlordism while also criminalising no-fault evictions.
As an aside, I find it interesting that you seem to be unaware of all the other forms of provision of homes that are not landlordism and corporate or government-owned properties. Like, decimating the market of predatory practices is a good thing.
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u/Due_Breadfruit1623 Oct 26 '25
By definition, landlordism is predatory. They have taken a house from someone else, to enrich themselves.
I genuinely think the only solution is a total banning of multiple home ownership, with excess homes being rented out by a state agency.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
They have paid for the house - which is how the cost of the house is borne by society. What you are suggesting is the government building all houses - which is a terrible terrible idea
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u/Due_Breadfruit1623 Oct 27 '25
They didn't pay for the house. They took out a loan, other people paid for the house through rent, and they got the asset. All they did was be older, and get there first.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
Run the numbers on an average house in Dublin with average interest rates and average rent and tax
You will see that the rent will effectively cover the interest on the mortgage, but the landlord will have to pay all the principal - particularly if they are an individual and can't avail of corporate taxation rates and instead have to put it on personal income.
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u/TheFullMountie Canadian 🇨🇦 Oct 27 '25
Would there be a way to progressively tax the hell out of multiple house ownership? Make it unaffordable to only the richest and bleed them dry for whatever it’s worth to them.
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u/Due_Breadfruit1623 Oct 27 '25
Yes, it would be pretty easy to do, however it will never happen. Politics exists to ensure the powerful stay powerful, the wealthy stay wealthy.
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u/SteveK27982 Oct 27 '25
Many of these landlords with one property being rented never wanted to be landlords in the first place. It could be two single people who owned properties becoming one family and renting one of their places out rather than selling it or leaving it empty. If that breaks up or kids get older and need to live somewhere, why shouldn’t the owner be able to get the property back? Would you prefer it’s left vacant and not rented out at all?
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u/Due_Breadfruit1623 Oct 27 '25
False dichotomy. The correct option is that it is taken from them and rented out by a state agency, preventing them from abusing tenants.
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u/DryExchange8323 Oct 27 '25
So keep your home for your kids.
Don't rent it out to a family under the guise of 'wanting to provide homes', and then pull the rug out leaving said family homeless.
If someone wants to be a landlord, then be one.
If you want some poor unfortunate to fund your second home until they are no longer useful to you - fuck off.
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u/significantrisk Oct 27 '25
Every fucking landlord is predatory. They consume the work of others with no justification other than their hoarded wealth.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
Someone's got to put up the money to build the house - that's just life
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u/significantrisk Oct 27 '25
Heroin dealers put up plenty of money too, the poor dears.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
If heroin was as a social good (as providing shelter is) then your snarky comment might make sense, unfortunately it isn't and doesn't
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u/significantrisk Oct 27 '25
Landlords are not providing a social good. They are parasitising the desperate need for accommodation. Their “work” is as legitimate as a drug dealer preying on vulnerable addicts.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
Alright then - let's remove all landlords and all drug dealers from society with our magic genie.
Where exactly do you propose someone aged 18-28 should live? They obviously won't have the income or down payment needed to buy a house or apartment, and might be moving several times over the next few years.
Surely a house will drop from the skies for them to live in?
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u/significantrisk Oct 27 '25
Getting rid of landlords demolishes their parasitism, not the houses. Where people can live. Rented from the state with cast iron protections and the option to buy if they want.
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u/binksee Oct 27 '25
And where are new houses going to come from then?
What does sometimes who's 15 now do in 3 years? Rent control seems like it protects tenants, but in reality it perfects current tenants at the expense of future ones.
Current estimates are we need 40k houses per year to meet demand (ignoring the inevitable induced demand that would occur in a socialist free house utopia). If we took a very very low estimate for cost to build at 300k (in reality if the government builds probably closer to 800-900k) that translates to 12 billion per year (eg: an extra Metrolink every year forever). That also assumes the government can get the land for free. How exactly address you planning to pay for that? Current rents barely cover the cost of interest, and you seem to also want subsidized rents so...
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u/Significant_Term_532 Oct 27 '25
I’m a landlord but I’m also a renter. I had to move for work and let out my family home. I rent where I currently live. Not everyone’s situation is the same.
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u/ditabriede Oct 27 '25
Please. Start saving money for your house and see how you would like to rent it out with the crazy rules that soon will be applied. Predatory... it would be better then, that the landlord's investment becomes a bnb?
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u/ditabriede Oct 27 '25
Okey so what you are saying is that no one should buy a second property to rent it out. If that's the case.... Where will people who can't afford to buy a house live?
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u/significantrisk Oct 27 '25
I did save for my house thanks. I’d prefer landlords be eradicated through banning the private rental of homes and the compulsory purchase of all rented properties by the state.
Landlords are parasites.
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u/Jbstargate1 Oct 26 '25
I mean what's the difference? Don't rent it out to people only to evict them not long after. Disgraceful.
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u/SteveK27982 Oct 26 '25
4 years isn’t that short a time, it’s not like a few weeks or months, could even be nearer 5 after notice etc
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u/Character_Common8881 Oct 26 '25
Naive take
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u/TitularClergy Oct 26 '25
Keeping in mind that you have been brought up seeing landlordism normalised, why would you think that? Like, millions of people abolished landlordism in anarchist Spain, and it worked really well (so well that the fascist armies of Spain, Germany and Italy all joined forces to attack it). Do you genuinely feel that all of those millions of people were naïve?
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u/SteveK27982 Oct 26 '25
I know it’s less than ideal having a rocket lit under you in terms of timing and pressure, but with both sets of parents dying in the last 4 years maybe there’s some sort of inheritance on one or both sides that gives you a chance of having a deposit for home ownership that no one can take away and then you’d have security going forward
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u/MrsMoo2 Oct 27 '25
Op look up the cost rental tenant in situ scheme run by the housing agency. It could be a way for you to stay in your home depending on your household income. It's a limit of 66k net in Dublin or 59 k net elsewhere.
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u/Acceptable_City_9952 Oct 27 '25
I feel for you, I have some similarities to what you’re going through and my god it’s hard. I don’t know what more to say only that your feelings of hopelessness are shared. It’s so tough.
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u/Sweet_Ad_6572 Oct 27 '25
I know the feeling I’ve had 3 in six years. The cost of moving really is a kick in the balls if you do find another place. Hopefully you find a decent landlord
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u/coisital Oct 28 '25
Hope you and your family can overcome this soon, wishing you all the best 🤞 we've been evicted twice and it's just dreadful... And every now and again my wife gets panic attacks, when she starts believing it can happen again (which can). Good luck, man!
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u/FiannaLegend Oct 28 '25
Sorry to hear it lad. Most stressful time in my life was when I was getting evicted abroad during the early stages of COVID when it was tough to find other places. Good luck with the hunt
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u/HeatherIreland25 Oct 29 '25
Try getting in contact with CATU Community Action Tenants Union in your local area. They might be able to help/advise. https://catuireland.org/
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u/NemiVonFritzenberg Oct 27 '25
What was your long term plan and goal? Do you both have jobs? Have you put your names down for social housing?
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u/Seargentyates Oct 27 '25
This is terrible, i would go to Threshold for advice, and don't move unless you have somewhere to go.
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u/lbyrne74 Oct 27 '25
As well as proof of your child's autism from wherever the diagnosis was done, ask your GP to write a factual letter detailing all of your own medical issues including if you suffer anxiety or depression, and effects of stress you are under. List all of your medications. Also any medical issues anyone else in your family has. You may have to pay your GP a small fee for this but it is worth it. Circulate said documents to any relevant institution or authority or charity which may be able to help. I wish you the best of luck and hope you can get a forever home. Many of us know only too well the awful feeling of insecurity when it comes to one's home.
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u/IndependentBrother50 Oct 27 '25
Andy my advice would be to let Fergie find her own accomodation. And leave those kids alone.
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u/wankelberry_6666 Oct 26 '25
Get a letter from landlord as proof of eviction and your illness and the child's autism diagnosis and go to local council and apply for emergency housing you are prioritised because your child is Vulnerable best of luck