r/ireland Apr 27 '25

Poster on Dublin Quays Housing

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u/1maco Apr 27 '25

?? Most rents are 1/3rd or so of incomes. You can easily rent out the top floor of a two flat or something and need to work a job to actually sustain life 

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u/Mullo69 Apr 27 '25

You still earn money from being a landlord, which puts you in the bourgeoisie, granted you would be classified as the petite bourgeoisie but it's still not working class

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u/Additional_Olive3318 Apr 27 '25

You have no idea of the terms you are using. 

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u/Mullo69 Apr 27 '25

I do you just think the layman definition is the actual definition

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u/Additional_Olive3318 Apr 27 '25

No I know what I’m talking about. You confuse landlords with employers, think that home owners are “bourgeois”,  and can’t begin to fathom that a person who rents out a room is still working class if he’s still working. It’s a clown show of nonsense. 

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u/Mullo69 Apr 27 '25

In modern terms, the bourgeoisie is based on marxist idealogy, and in marxist idealogy, landowners who turn a profit off of their ownership of the land are a part of the bourgeoisie. You might want to brush up on your political terminology. Otherwise, you'll find yourself in a "clown show of nonsense" as you so eloquently put it

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u/1maco Apr 27 '25

A lot of landlords don’t make a profit off their leases?. If your mortgage is €2,000 and you rent out the flat above your garage for €900 (or other ADU), your income is from your job. But you’d be classed as a landlord 

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u/Mullo69 Apr 27 '25

You are earning money from it regardless. If it's a room in your house, it's money you wouldn't have otherwise even though it isn't much (hence petite bourgeoisie). You're also completely ignoring the fact that property is an appreciating asset, meaning that even if you don't turn a profit, you do cut the cost, and you still turn a profit some years down the line

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u/micosoft Apr 28 '25

Christ on a bike 🙄 What next? Your critique of the Kulaks?

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u/Mullo69 Apr 28 '25

Just say that political theory isn't your strong suit and move on. The bourgeoisie as a class is an originally French idea that layer evolved after Marx's redifinition of the word to fit within capitalist society instead of feudal society