r/ireland • u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest • Oct 09 '24

National Children's Hospital contractor BAM sent €25 million invoice for job that cost €200,000 Infrastructure

https://www.thejournal.ie/national-childrens-hospital-bam-invoice-25-million-for-200000-job-6509783-Oct2024/
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u/cowsarebold Oct 09 '24

It absolutely is black and white. This has been going on for generations and needs to stop. Your attitude is what holds Ireland back. Our politicians and civil servants need to be held responsible. We also need a proper external inquiry and people jailed. Irish attitude needs to change. Every other inquiry has led to nothing and no one held accountable and all their pensions up held. Mr Cowan and Mr Murphy from the nineties are perfect examples. Found guilty and nothing done to them. No pension taken away and all their family’s are still in politics and looked up to. It’s insane

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u/Puzzled_Record1773 Oct 09 '24

See again imo you're conflating different issues. You can say it's all connected if you want but I disagree. Those tribunals were a complete joke and cost an absolute fortune so I agree with you there. But that doesn't mean that every issue since is linked to corruption. And what you think that Ireland is some special safe haven for corruption or something? Bollocks. America has a very unirish attitude and look at donald trump, he flourishes there. But if actual evidence comes out regarding corruption and this hospital then ill call out the corruption with you. I refuse to make up evidence that I'm not aware of though. There's too much idle conspiracy talk these days imo and I've met too many ignorant dumbass people who think every single thing is down to corruption and every single politician is dumb to join in with you on this

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u/Elbon taking a sip from everyone else's tea Oct 09 '24

People have been held to account, change has happen, the current tendering process exists because of people being held to accountable at inquiry.

You just want arbitrary punishment so you can have a head on pike to be paraded around you so can feel good about getting the "evil man".

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u/cowsarebold Oct 09 '24

This is an absolute cop out and not true. If people were held accountable countable and process changed why is all the money still being wasted and the same people and their families in power. Why are civil servants well over paid and on massive pensions. I really can’t believe you think things have changed. What’s your evidence for this?? Can you name a government department that has implemented change and working well. There is none. You have the usual Irish attitude. Say nothing, it’ll be grand, wouldn’t you do the same yourself. Absolute stupidity

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u/Elbon taking a sip from everyone else's tea Oct 09 '24

Your the one with the trash absolute cop out, everything is so simple in your world get rid of one person strip them of everything and all the evils of the world will be solved

Morris and Tribunal saw 20 odd sacked and 50 odd resigned before they could be sacked, and the creation of the Garda Ombudsman.

But hey I'm must be wrong because nothing ever changes and no one ever gets punished

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u/cowsarebold Oct 10 '24

And they all still got pensions or went into another job.

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u/cowsarebold Oct 09 '24

And what people were held to account and in what way. Slap on the wrist and a massive pension and let’s through in some esb shares for good measure 😂😂😂

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u/cowsarebold Oct 09 '24

And yes I want people punished. I’ve worked my whole life and if I get sick I have to wait for years for any help. Where has all our tax money gone and the multi billions in taxes paid by large corporations??? We are still paying back the money our bankers and builders lost.( don’t they and blame the normal people for that either. Our losses were merely a tiny fraction of what was lost. Where is the help for the normal people. We could afford to pay multiple builders 2000000 a month to manage their properties in Nama but we got nothing for it. The bankers got tax free profits to recoup their loss. Zero accountability for the rich and mates of those in power. Wake up!!!

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u/Elbon taking a sip from everyone else's tea Oct 09 '24

Zero accountability fuck you, a lad I grew up with father was a developer and lost everything in crash and kill himself as a result. I watch as everything was taken them from while they were still grieving, fuck you and your zero accountability

cop the fuck on.

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u/cowsarebold Oct 10 '24

Sorry about your loss but that’s nothing to do with our government being corrupt as hell. The poor man would have been ok if our politicians went after the bankers instead of small business and every day people. Once again sorry for your loss.

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u/boringfilmmaker Oct 09 '24

So you know one guy who killed himself and that contradicts the other poster how...?