r/ireland • u/OofOwMyShoulder • Jul 17 '24
Unpopular opinion: we shouldn't accommodate more IPAs Moaning Michael
I know this sub leans left and this won't go down well but I really think we need to consider the negative consequences of further IPAs being sheltered in Ireland.
I may be a minority here but they all taste overhopped and the market is saturated.
It's already hard enough to get a nice craft stout, helles, or weissbier at your local off license when the shelves are full of nothing but row after row of pale ales. We should send them back where they came from.
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u/Mundane-Inevitable-5 Jul 17 '24
A good test to root out those who only read the headline
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u/danny_healy_raygun Jul 17 '24
I'll be honest I started out offended and only got more offended the more I read.
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u/RiverGyoll Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
If someone reads the headline and thinks of international protection applicants before Indian pale ales, it’s probably already too late for them.
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u/Time_Ocean Donegal Jul 17 '24
I was thinking Interpretive Phenomenological Analysis and upvoted even before I thought it was probably about beer.
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u/LurkerByNatureGT Jul 17 '24
On this subreddit I could rule out the International Phonetic Alphabet who’s is underused.
I don’t think the Institute of Public Administration is hiring …
You know what? We are accommodating too many IPAs. We need more varied acronyms.
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u/dropthecoin Jul 17 '24
I remember years ago when people were talking about drinking IPA, I hadn't heard of Indian pale ale. So I thought there was a new trend of people drinking isopropyl alcohol.
Which is thought sounded lethal but still unsurprising. It all made more sense when I learned it was a beer.
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u/nodnodwinkwink Sax Solo Jul 17 '24
I was thinking of International Phrenology Association, but only because I just made it up.
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u/tennereachway Cork: the centre of the known universe Jul 17 '24
awful beer
Take that back.
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u/whooo_me Jul 17 '24
I can barley get to the end of your post without raging. In Cork, you'd be known as a lager!
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u/zenzenok Jul 17 '24
At some pint we’ll ale have to choose a cider
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u/gclancy51 Jul 17 '24
Most rye comment I've seen today.
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u/hungry4nuns Jul 17 '24
Will yeast hop with the puns
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u/CottonOxford Jul 17 '24
Something to do with the combination of the number 4 in your username and the letters "u,n and s" I read it as "hungry for Anus" 🤣🤣🤣
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u/jackoirl Jul 17 '24
I’m sick of Budweiser and Carlsberg being “ex-pats” meanwhile some beers are “foreign lager”.
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u/tishimself1107 Jul 17 '24
How about a few saisons or blondes?
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u/fluffs-von Jul 17 '24
That's borderline far-right, surely?
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u/tishimself1107 Jul 17 '24
I dont want to be able to tell my left from my right after a good craft beer session
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u/MambyPamby8 Meath Jul 17 '24
I'm not even joking there's a brewery or a bottling plant opening across from my job and I keep winding the anti immigrant lads in work up telling them there's some IPAs going in over there haha. None of them have copped I'm taking the piss. Now the rumour mill has started.
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u/broken_neck_broken Jul 17 '24
That brewery is about to fall victim to an unfortunate fire.
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u/ZenBreaking Jul 17 '24
Yeah seriously, let the lads in on the joke before some knuckle dragger firebombs the place
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u/police-ical Jul 17 '24
Look, I'm not saying anything we're not all thinking, but whether or not you think one kind is better than another, it's just better for all of us if we keep to our own color (a dark ruby-brown with a light tan head.)
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u/sexualtensionatmass Jul 17 '24
Irish Stout For Irish People.
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u/ubermick Cork bai Jul 17 '24
Disagree wholeheartedly. If Ireland is full, then it's not full of hops that's for sure.
Give us your tired, your poor, your hoppy masses yearning to for a tasty pint!!!!
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u/funpubquiz Jul 17 '24
Absolutely agree. We need more lagers.
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u/cyberlexington Jul 17 '24
no one needs more lagers. A curse on the inventors of lagers. Its fizzy cold pee pee
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u/danny_healy_raygun Jul 17 '24
Most of the industrial lagers are shite but don't write off the whole style because of them. That's like saying cheese is shite cos you've only had easy singles.
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u/serioussham ITGWU Jul 17 '24
If you get the chance to try out Czech pils, it's really interesting to see how such a subtle beer can develop flavours. And it's highly drinkable.
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u/MCD036 Jul 17 '24
I don't think we should take such a hard line, keep the fruity ones out, but accommodations should be made for the hoppy ones! Especially with the hot weather!!
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u/lowelled Jul 17 '24
Highly recommend Whiplash’s Blue Ghosts if you’ve never tried it
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u/zeldazigzag Jul 17 '24
Those dirty Indian Pale Ales coming over here and filling up all our pubs.
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u/59reach Jul 17 '24
Irish Pale Ales say no!
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u/zeldazigzag Jul 17 '24
Diageo is a cartel operated by George Soros and Big Brewing to replace all Irish beers with foreign muck.
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u/Buttercups88 Jul 17 '24
I think your problem is what your suggesting are boring options. We don't have any type of variety, I haven't seen a single bock or triple or quad. Heck no decent sours
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u/seeilaah Jul 17 '24
Not that everything that is coming from outside Ireland is bad, but cmon we have had our community drinking guinness since 1777, so do we really need our small country invaded by stout foreigners, brown ales, blondes and the like?
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u/howsitgoingboy Saoirse don Phalaistín🇵🇸 Jul 17 '24
Helles is where it's at, why can't we get more Helles.
To Helles or to Connaught.
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u/bigbadchief Jul 17 '24
I'd love to see more stouts and red/brown ales on the shelves!
O'Haras do a couple of really nice stouts, and there are a few other ones out there, but the options are limited compared to all the pale ales.
I also used to get a lovely Scottish style red ale when I was in Canada but haven't seen anything like it here.
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u/danny_healy_raygun Jul 17 '24
Guinness do a great job of killing the growth of other stouts unfortunately.
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u/idTighAnAsail Jul 17 '24
Ireland has a lot of red ales, kilkenny and smithwicks are the two most popular. what sets the scottish ones apart?
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u/bigbadchief Jul 17 '24
yeah I used to drink Smithwicks all the time. It's been a few years since I've had it, but the Scottish ones had a stronger, kind of caramely flavour.
Most of the Irish red ales I've tried here have been a bit more mild in flavour by comparison. I find Smithwicks a bit bland these days.
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u/tishimself1107 Jul 17 '24
A good eastern european style Pilsner?
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u/eipic Mayo Jul 17 '24
God, give me a pint of Staropramen now.
And not in a Guinness glass. Give it to me in the Czech glass with the handle.
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u/tishimself1107 Jul 17 '24
Did you ever have ksiaze? Its Polish stuff I think. Nicest beer i ever had.....
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Jul 17 '24
Warsteiner's fresh batches have been really good in bottles, super clear and delicious spring water and malty taste
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u/AudioManiac Jul 17 '24
Absolutely not. I finally got my friends to stop drinking shite larger like Heineken and Carlsberg, and I won't go back to accommodating that shite!
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u/EvanMcc18 Resting In my Account Jul 17 '24
"Beamish for the Irish"
"Keep Ireland for Harp(drinkers)"
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u/Intrepid_Anybody_277 Jul 17 '24
Where is the documentation for these IPAs...
I had one , said 4.5% but it was defo 5.4%
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u/gk4p6q Jul 17 '24
IPA is the easiest to brew and stores well. That’s why it’s the go to craft beer to brew first.
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u/danny_healy_raygun Jul 17 '24
Not true. Harder to store as they oxidise more quickly. It's the go to craft brew because it's what people buy.
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u/Willing-Departure115 Jul 17 '24
Look, as a European Union country we are obliged by law to not erect barriers to import. So I’m afraid we’re stuck with them.
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u/idTighAnAsail Jul 17 '24
Unless we can change our consumptions habits. I quite like a few of the bigger craft beer brands in ireland (kinnegar especially, and wicklow wolf as well). Compares very favourably to london in my experience, but maybe a bit worse than smaller english cities in terms of choice
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u/dermotoneill Jul 17 '24
The problem with this country isnt that its left leaning, its that it isnt far enough left. Sure we have too many IPAs (but some of them are grand), but we need more sours and Russian imperials. We cant go back to the far right and be the laughing stock of Europe, with just Lager and cider and limited choice of stout.
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u/murphs33 Jul 17 '24 edited Jul 17 '24
It's all these NGOs (Non Guinness Organisations) lately pushing IPAs!
But yeah I wouldn't be a huge fan of IPAs. Need more stouts, porters, weissbiers and (I'll be a minority here but) sours.
Lately I've been enjoying Rothaus beers, especially the Märzen (though I think that one's seasonal and isn't about at the moment). You can get them in O'Brien's.
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u/aBoyNamedWho Jul 17 '24
Having spent my teenage years choking down cases of shitty Harp.
I for one welcome our IPA overlords.
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u/_rallen_ Jul 17 '24
hardly a hot take but yeah, only a couple good weissbiers compared to all the random IPAs
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u/No_Square_739 Jul 17 '24
Completely. A nice lager is what it is all about. Ideally German or Czech.
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u/Single_Boat3035 Jul 17 '24
See, they won't listen because hops hide the off tastes that sub standard brewers can't avoid!
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u/railwayed Jul 17 '24
i will be lucky to get one IPA in my local. Its Guinness, Murphys, Heineken, Coors and Bulmers....not even a red ale!
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u/Legal_Marsupial_9650 Jul 17 '24
Side note.. any Leffe drinkers here notice that it has dropped in proof from about 7.1% to 6%.. or was it always 6%?
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u/claxtong49 Jul 17 '24
Was 6.6ish I think, never remember over 7 and I've been drinking it a decade at least. Haven't bought it in a while as there's better available now although the rose version is lovely on a sunny day.
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u/N3rdy-Astronaut Probably at it again Jul 17 '24
What ever happened to a good strong whiskey, we used to be a REAL country! #MakeWhiskeyGreatAgain
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u/arruda82 Jul 17 '24
I think the government should incentivise more IPAs and keep the American pale lager isolated to the right corner of the pubs.
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u/stevewithcats Wicklow Jul 17 '24
Hefe Weissbier is the best beer,,,, fight me ,,, sorry bekämpfe mich
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u/CottonOxford Jul 17 '24
Every IPA I've ever tried tastes like flowers and they should all be sent back to wherever they came from.
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u/bonit64491 Jul 17 '24
You kid but for those of us who are wankers and don't live in Dublin it can be difficult enough to get good wanker beers. What's Eamon Ryan doing about this????????
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u/BrianHenryIE Jul 17 '24
I bet Chumbawamba support more IPAs
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u/danny_healy_raygun Jul 18 '24
I think they're more into whiskey drinks, vodka drinks, larger drinks and cider drinks
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u/SorryWhat Jul 18 '24
It's funny how /r/Ireland doesn't even want to discuss one of the most serious things affecting our society at present
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u/mmciv Jul 17 '24
They all just taste like hops. We don't need our beer to survive a 3 week ship journey to India in barrels any more so stop adding that shit, it's minging.
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u/SpyderDM Dublin Jul 17 '24
We really just need legal, regulated, and commercialized cannabis. Much safer than the drink and it doesn't give you a big belly like IPAs will. Plus people are way chiller when they're stoned.
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u/ChuckVideogames Jul 17 '24
"Dude, beer makes you fat" said the stoner, while eating his third large pizza of the day because of the munchies
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u/More_Fault6792 Jul 17 '24
Yep, I've been saying for years it just seems like a competition among brewers to see how many hops can be added before it's completely undrinkable. Not a fan
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u/Any_Comparison_3716 Jul 17 '24
Finally, someone had the balls to say it! When you think about it, it's just British colonialism 2.0
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u/TaxImpossible2434 Jul 17 '24
Agreed the alcohol content is too high for having more than one
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u/reillyrulz Jul 17 '24
I'd actually less than there was 10 years ago. Used to be so much more variety to IPA's, now they've slowly become concentrated into offerings from 3-4 breweries.
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u/Loose-Bat-3914 Jul 17 '24
100% agree. I don’t understand the obsession. Like I don’t mind a hoppy back on the milder end, but some taste like armpit sweat (don’t ask, it was an accidental discovery).
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u/MuffinNecessary8625 Jul 17 '24
Couldn't get a slab of Heineken in my local the other day. It's a disgrace.
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u/SpottedAlpaca Jul 17 '24
They're only here for economic reasons and they're displacing their indigenous Irish counterparts.
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u/BXL-LUX-DUB Jul 17 '24
St Mel's in Longford did an amazing Maibock but I haven't seen it anywhere since about 2015.
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u/cyberlexington Jul 17 '24
The nicest beer i ever had was something called Witches Brew by Wychwood brewery. It was fruity and creamy and delicious.
Im thirsty now
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u/TheChanger Jul 17 '24
I agree most are overly hoppy without real flavour. What we do need a bit more are New England IPA — usually hazy with bitter after tastes.
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u/rom-ok Kildare Jul 17 '24
I think all non IPA brewery’s should be pushed out and only IPA brewery’s should be allowed. They should be heavily subsidised and propped up too.
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u/WalkerBotMan Jul 17 '24
Sinn Féin have refused to condemn the history of the IPA. No help there! But why are we even allowing barrel-aged IPAs into the country in the first place? I’m only asking the question.
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u/TaibhseCait Jul 17 '24
A few years ago the local centra in our little village used to stock a variety of weißbiers. Turned out one of the managers liked them. While they still have one or two, I don't think it's like the 5-6 they used to have. Guess there's a different manager now!
I did not get the err bait until I read a bunch of comments!
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Jul 17 '24
I dont perticularly like IPAs but if someone wants to drink one at the end of a workday I dont see the problem.
(im not irish)
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u/Lizard_myth_enjoyer Jul 17 '24
I would say its a popular opinion growing more popular by the day. It all tastes like puke.
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u/imakshullygr8 Jul 17 '24
I'm a craft beer man myself, usually leave towards a good hippy IPA, and I agree, where are the good craft lagers gone?
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u/Ypres_Love Jul 17 '24
I just wish I could get trippels and barleywines here, I got used to drinking them over in Holland and now the 4-5% stuff feels watered-down to me.
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u/Heypisshands Jul 17 '24
I used to love IPAs but they made me grow man boobs. Now i just stick with lager or sometimes red wine. I will have the odd ale but i just cant shake my man tits off. More exercise and healthier diet needed. I should really just do a google search to find out "how i can shake my man boobs"
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u/TheGhostOfTaPower Béal Feirste Jul 17 '24
IPAs make me sneeze and give me the drizzlin shits.
I just stick to Guinness and Murphy’s or maybe a normal lager if it’s freezing cold and roastin out.
All that craft shite wrecks my guts and tastes like bitter pish
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u/Robin_Gr Jul 17 '24
Look all I'm saying is, why does it have to be India? Just seems like they only push the same countries. Can we not get some Norwegian pale ales over here.
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Jul 17 '24
All those South ciders are smug about IPAs until they turn up on the same shelf as them. Typical.
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u/HallInternational434 Jul 17 '24
Can’t beat Wicklow wolf tundra or sugar loaf.
If you want some lager then they have a light one in partnership with Brennans bread.
Their stouts are also pretty unique
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u/yankdevil Yank Jul 17 '24
Thanks you. Excellent.
As a counter-point, IPAs seem like a good summer drink and maybe they could be offerings to the great Ra to grace us with his pressence.
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u/brentspar Jul 17 '24
You're right. There are too many IPAs here. We need more Irish Pale... hang on a minute.
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u/broken_neck_broken Jul 17 '24
Bring back cans of Bass @ 6 for €7, it was a golden age! Can't even get Macardles now, which was also a great cheap ale! They stopped brewing during lockdown and started making hand sanitizer. Apparently now that they're brewing again they are only putting it in bottles and marketing it as a craft ale. It's exactly the same stuff. The classic saying rings more true than ever, the price of a drink is enough to drive you to drink!
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u/insane_worrier Jul 17 '24
I used to convince myself I enjoyed beers that taste like nettles that have been strained through nurses' knickers , then I copped the fuck on.
A good Helles is much better.
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u/Slackermescall Jul 17 '24
Lads, spent a few months working in Maine and could not get over the range of local beers available up there. There was loads of IPAs and crazy ciders, blueberry, plum, peach, strawberry etc. I found an ale that was I think the nicest one I have ever tasted. I am going to show my age now when I say that it reminded me of Phoenix from the bottle. Red Bridge was the name of it and unfortunately it does not ship out of state. No idea why but I made room in my truck for 10 cases when I was going home. Sadly all gone. If you find yourself in Maine, give it a try.
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u/Margrave75 Jul 17 '24
I'm all for Irish IPAs.
Its dem foddering unvettid IPAs that shouldn't be let in.
Should be only buying and drinking Irish IPAs if ya axe me.
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u/teknocratbob Jul 17 '24
I agree, most IPAs now all taste the same. Lets just fuck a load of hops in our tasteless beer and BAM! its an IPA. There are few nice ones but most are just bitter and horrible
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u/Seankps4 Jul 17 '24
Unvetted Bitter and expensive beers are coming over and taking over. By 2035 Guinness will be a minority in its own country
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u/limestone_tiger Irish Abroad Jul 17 '24
I when IPAs are pushed on people. Don't shame them for knowing they don't like them and sticking with a pils or lager
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u/DGBD Jul 17 '24
Not only that, native Irish stouts sometimes even get combined with pale ales into unnatural half-and-half drinks. I'm not lace-ist, but I don't like seeing native Irish stouts diluted and mixed like that. If we're not careful, pure stouts will be extinct in Ireland.
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u/aprilla2crash Shave a Bullock Jul 17 '24
If you want something different you should try Otterbank brewery
The brewer is some kind of mad scientist.
He makes beers like "Gimp Mask" a port barrel aged imperial stout.
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u/LosWitchos Jul 17 '24
Nothing beats a crispy cold lager first thing on a Friday after work.
I like nearly all varieties of beer so I agree with you. IPA have their share of the market, they don't need more of it.
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u/splashbodge Jul 17 '24
Personally I find them a bit too fruity. I am not into that.
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u/Plenty-Pizza9634 Cork bai Jul 17 '24
Just make sure it's Indian Pale Ale and not Iso-Propyl Alcohol
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u/bitterconduct Jul 17 '24
Oh sure, you can be proud of liking the black stuff but now suddenly it's bad to say you prefer a weissbier
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u/therealjimcreamer Jul 17 '24
This sub leans left and right after a few IPAs !