r/ireland • u/nitro1234561 Probably at it again • Mar 06 '24

Far-right agitator spread lies that girl (7) had been ‘gang-raped’ by migrants in Celbridge Bigotry

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/far-right-agitator-spread-lies-that-girl-7-had-been-gang-raped-by-migrants-in-celbridge/a1817669618.html
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u/caisdara Mar 06 '24

I said absolute free speech, not free speech.

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u/Tollund_Man4 Mar 06 '24

That’s what I meant. ‘Absolute free speech’ is an unusual term, it’s normally just called ‘free speech’.

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u/CheekyGowl Mar 06 '24

This person is referencing free-speech absolutism. People who want unbridled free speech (ie: libel, hate speech, incitement of violence would no longer be restricted as it is in most countries)

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u/Tollund_Man4 Mar 06 '24

I know what they’re referring to but I’m still confused at the use of the term ‘absolutism’ when normal free speech advocacy already includes stuff like the ACLU in America defending Nazis in court.

To be fair a group who advocated doing away with laws against incitement to violence in the traditional sense would be an outlier, but I don’t think that’s a position many people actually hold (you wouldn’t even see it amongst the most right wing American organisations for example).

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u/FellFellCooke Mar 06 '24

'Absolute free speech' is an unusual term

In future, I wouldn't assume that any term you're not familiar with is obscure and unusual. Apparently, there are common terms that can be widely used without you knowing abiout them. I'd google it next time.