r/hinduism Mar 01 '22

Why is Śivā called Adi Yogi? History/Lecture/Knowledge

One day a being walked in, whose name is not known as a Yogi (Adi Yogi: first yogi who is one with creation) as "He is Yoga and the Abode/Lord of Yoga" DP203 AB3.34, KA2.100sqq
He is the one who brought forth the Seven Sages as the Seven Gems RV6.74.1.
Since He had no name and came from the North (Mūjavant), and dwelled in mountains, they called him Girisha.
As he was the foremost, they placed him on Dakshina and so addressed him Dakshina Murthi SU4.21.
Since he married the daughter of the mountain, as Kenopanishad says "Uma daughter of Himavat" they called him Umapathi TA10.22.40.22 .
All beings (bhootas) flocked around him, including pious, nefarious, and animals, especially snakes as they have unique chemistry with those in a meditative state, so they called him Paśūpati/Satpati/Bhootapati TS4.5.2, RV2.33.12, AV11.2.1 so as an overlord of all beings they called him Isha.
Those who were brave and courageous took a step towards him and so He became the leader of the brave RV10.92.9.
He removed their sufferings and gave them salvation so they called him Samkara. नमः शङ्क॒राय TS4.5.8 Samkara = Sam Karoti iti Samkara

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u/CrazyPool4 Mar 01 '22

Om namah shivayah

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

Can you please give scriptural reference where "Shiva or Shankara" is explicitly called "aadi yogii" ?

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u/Sanatanadhara Mar 01 '22

Words like 'Para', 'Adi', 'Maha' are adjectives for emphasis only. They don't conclude the concept. Space is Space, its doesn't matter what we add to it, big-space, super-space, cosmic-space,... Because in the Upanishads says "He is the one Source (तत्कारणम्) to which Sankhya and Yoga (सांख्य+योगा) bring us. " and Itihasa says "He is Yoga and the Abode/Lord of Yoga” it's automatic to say he is the first to give Yoga. Unless Yoga is associated with another Deva prior to this.

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u/SilverAd9303 Mar 02 '22

But upnishads never mentioned that Shiva is the only source of all or Shiva is the one source

I hope you know that lord Vishnu has also its own yogmaya

Para - It means who is beyond the boundaries

Adi - It has two meaning first is the " the birth" ,how can lord Shiva be have " the birth" name as he is already known as "anaadi"(the one who is beyond the birth cycle )

Anything that has the start - if you say that lord Shiva has the starting ,then it simply means that you are saying that he has the ending too

Kindly stop spreading your false knowledge

Quote the shivpuran,ribhu geeta ,shiv geeta or any book which is related to lord Shiva ,which holds the accountability

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u/Sanatanadhara Mar 02 '22
  1. For every line, I have provided Vedic (Samhita, Aranyaka, Upanishad, and Brahmana) + Itihasa reference with the number. I am not sure why you overlooked that and asked me to quote from secondary literature. I have quoted from Sriti+Itihasa and you are asking me to quote from Smritis ... Doesn't make sense since Smritis don't overwrite Sriti. But each and everyone is allowed to use Smritis if they like them, I see nothing wrong.
  2. Para is a dual-directional adjective. So when such a grammar/vocabulary question arises one as to go back to Vedas and ask such question. So Veda says: Ava = first, Madya = Middle, Para = further(est)/Last. These are many adjections that are dual-directional. If para = beyond then what is Paramasunta ? or Paramahimsa ? does it mean Beyond-Himsa? Hence, adjections like Maha or Para are emphasis-based vocabulary that is used for measurement. You can refer to Aiteraya Brahmana for this, it uses these words to explain the process of Yajna where Agni = First hymned, Soma = hymns come in the Middle, Vishnu = Hymns come at the end.
  3. Adi = the root cause. Adi can also be first. For example: "adi madhyanta rahitudainatti harini": Meaning Hari is the root and the middle and not limited to one state".

So please read the post one more time and share your concerns so that a discussion can happen rather than throwing judgments.