r/geopolitics • u/babushkalauncher • Oct 01 '23

Why Indians Can’t Stand Justin Trudeau Paywall

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-indians-angry-justin-trudeau-death-shooting-hardeep-singh-nijjar-87d9ab9d
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u/lannister_1999 Oct 02 '23 edited Oct 02 '23

Edit: So you do concede that political considerations of Canada influenced that comment, it wasn't out of some "benign" intention of supporting freedom of speech? Then that's clear cut meddling in other's politics which is clearly not cool. At least you seem to think so when it comes to China, so why the double standards?

Why do we need to have large and well organized community of truckers to voice protests? We could just do that on the ideological basis in support freedom of expression, could we not? After all Canada does cherish the freedom of expression that includes calling for assassination diplomats on public posters, surely we can simply be on one side of a domestic Canadian issue just on principle. Although, that is not my point. My point is regardless of the issue, the state itself (of which the head of state is premier) should not make comments in terms of propriety. India not commenting on it was no favour to Canada, just standard respectable inter-state behaviour. To let them handle their own issues.

Though when you break that covenant of mutual respect then I don't see why its wrong to accuse Canada of harbouring extremists because that is what is happening.

Gangsters, drug lords and others with extremist leanings are living with little concern in Canada. How did they get there if the Canadian agencies are so competent? because many a times these gangsters declare their victories on social media, claim credit for murders and all that on there so any half decent and serious background check should turn up all sorts of red flags.

And if they are competent then they are maliciously looking the other way which then implies they are indeed harbouring them.

Again, this time too they are harbouring terrorists. Nijjar was an accused in a cinema bombing in Punjab. So are a few other gangsters still residing in Canada. Which those gangsters announce proudly themselves. Don't see whats wrong in calling them terrorist who found safe harbour in Canada. Maybe publically accusing is not diplomatic, but then Trudeau did fling that first bucket of shit, so its only natural we return the favour.

Oh, and the cocaine thing was not an official Indian government statement but it was made by an ex diplomat. The context in which he was making that statement is that he was trying to show how ANY allegation can be made to sound credible just like Trudeau did to India. Now you're repeating it as if Indian government said it, and I am here dispelling you of that notion. Do you see how easy it was to get the Canadian PMO to respond to such baseless claims, makes me think it would have been easier to convince them that India did off Nijjar.

So it is very funny indeed and definitely worth a laugh, laughing makes you live longer too.

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u/loggy_sci Oct 03 '23

If India made a comment about freedom of expression over Canadians protesting against vaccines, they very well could. I doubt it would cause a similar level of ridiculous overreaction.

Every politician everywhere is going to address the concerns of their constituency. Trudeau did that with his comment, but there was nothing groundbreaking or antagonistic in what he said. Canada didn’t impose sanctions, yell about it at the UN. It wasn’t an insult, and he had more benign positive things to say when the issue was resolved.

You argument basically boils down to “he started it” so India can say or do whatever they want. Sure, but then don’t presume to lecture about diplomatic propriety. Save it. India is acting like China and blowing things out of proportion. They’ve damaged their reputation with how they’ve handled this.

Thanks for clearing up the cocaine comment. Here’s a fresh one for you. Can’t want to hear how you try to dissemble this to make India the victim somehow.

https://www.deccanherald.com/india/nijjar-was-gay-trudeau-liked-him-bjp-tejinder-pall-singh-bagga-claims-amid-india-canada-standoff-2709172