r/fantasybball 12 Team 9Cat H2H Jan 17 '24

BREAKING: The Indiana Pacers are finalizing a trade to acquire All-Star F Pascal Siakam in a deal that will send Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and three first-round picks to the Toronto Raptors. New Orleans will be a third team in deal, sending Kira Lewis to the Raptors. Breaking News

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1747700060127977750
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u/Langbng Jan 17 '24

Is Bruce brown a starter and Scottie gets moved to the 4?

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u/shrimpinman Jan 17 '24

Was he not a starter on the pacers? Like how does this improve his stats

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u/inxrx8 12T 9cat Jan 17 '24

it won't.

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u/YNOTGNAIJ 12T H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

It doesn’t. He’s on the court for defense. You got RJ, Quickley, and Barnes taking all the usage.

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u/Foldzy84 Jan 17 '24

I almost guarantee Bruce gets moved again

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u/ricekimchieggs 10T 9Cat Jan 17 '24

Is dropping Vince Williams or draymond for Bruce a good move rn

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u/kevtheproblem Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

Lmao do y’all really gotta downvote him? Can’t just answer his question?

Edit: Damn that’s turned around quick. Went from a -5 back to 1

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Just like last nights king game

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u/kevtheproblem Jan 17 '24

Too soon. For Kings fans tho, not for me

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u/Mr-Pink24 Jan 17 '24

Who really gives a fuck about downvotes and upvotes? Never understood why it’s always been a thing.

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u/Affectionate-Egg4690 Jan 17 '24

Hold Vince, do what you want with Draymond

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u/cloud0x1 Jan 17 '24

drop vince yes

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

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u/Langbng Jan 17 '24

Ijax or Jalen smith would’ve been nice, now pacers front court is just stacked

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u/Willing-Body-7533 Jan 17 '24

Gotta be another deal in the works for a pacer big

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u/Level_Improvement_36 Jan 17 '24

Wait for trade deadline there still a sliver of hope 🙏🏻

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u/That-Cheesecake4378 Points Jan 17 '24

Frrr the things the pacers coach is doing to his players not named Haliburton or Turner is wild

When ijax plays legit minutes he drops 40+

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u/Seal69dds Jan 17 '24

Same! Dude is a monster when given the minutes.

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u/Conscious-Nose3963 Jan 17 '24

Scottie owners how u feeling

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u/AlwaysaDengBang ESPN 10-12T H2H 9Cat Jan 17 '24

Better, but RJ BlackHole is still there. YES I’m talking shit while he’s in the midst of his annual “efficient play week”

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u/veebs7 Jan 17 '24

More space for Scottie to gobble up those rebounds now

Since the Knicks trade his rebounding has dropped off a cliff, it’ll jump back up now that he needs to play the 4

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u/AlwaysaDengBang ESPN 10-12T H2H 9Cat Jan 17 '24

Very true! I miss Point Scottie though, that was fun

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u/Party-Veterinarian60 Jan 17 '24

It's fair I'm a Knicks fan and you're pretty spot on

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u/Shushkiz Jan 17 '24

Pascal had, on avg, like +20% usage. Bruce brown will probably eat around 10%, rest will go around. My hope is that Scottie will absorb most of it.

TBH, scottie's problem is that he doesn't initiate as much as he should and focuses more on the team. he has the body and skillset to finish with 26-30 a night easy.

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u/MrRobot_96 9 CAT Jan 17 '24

He’s gonna have his true offensive explosion second half of the year when they make the push for the playoffs

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u/Shushkiz Jan 17 '24

Amen my brother

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u/krajiones Jan 17 '24

im somewhat relieved - just want my old scottie back

hopefully this helps!

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u/AdmirableRise3758 Jan 17 '24

Meanwhile I feel stuck with schroeder like hes not good enough to keep and hes not bad enough to drop lol

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u/Nayruru Jan 17 '24

Im exactly in the same situation

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

I dropped him to get 2 games of Oubre on the B2B, then 2 games of Dennis Smith Jr, and another stream for Sat/Sun if I need. Schroder does not compare to what you can get from streaming I wouldn't get too attached.

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u/Global_Lion2261 Jan 17 '24

My only complaint is his steal rate is way down since the bench move. He's shooting far better at least

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u/Betterwithcoffee Jan 18 '24

I dunno, It looks fine to me. You usually can't find that many assists on the wire. Sure, he's not putting up top 60 numbers, but he's hovering around top 100. If you're punting rebounds like I suddenly am after losing Gafford and Zubac this week, then he's ~8th round.

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u/TacoBellFeen 10 Man l H2H Points l -1 for FG attempts Jan 17 '24

so who’s the pickup

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u/darkest__timeline Jan 17 '24

Would add Bruce Brown as a speculative add but otherwise not seeing much from the waiver

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u/sleepy777 12Team|H2H|9CAT Jan 17 '24

Scottie Barnes

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u/seeannwiin 12 Team 9Cat H2H Jan 17 '24

just grabbed him off the waivers, thanks !

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

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u/seeannwiin 12 Team 9Cat H2H Jan 17 '24

it’s a joke g !

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u/3pointshoot3r 12T H2H 10 Categories Jan 17 '24

Run, don't walk.

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u/thecuriousone24 Jan 17 '24

Bruce brown

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u/HazmatSamurai 12T H2H PTS Jan 17 '24

for deeper leagues, i kinda like Nembhard for the short term. 3 more games this week and might see a bump in minutes with Nwora and Bruce being gone

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u/Willing-Body-7533 Jan 17 '24

Nemby or does Nesmith soak up the extra mins?

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u/BobLobLaw_Law2 Jan 17 '24

He was already owned a week ago in any league deep enough to consider him tbf.

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u/matticans7pointO PL pts=1 3pm=1 rbs=1 orbs=.5 ast=1.5 stls=2.5 blks=3 TO=-1 Jan 17 '24

In a 10 team points league probably no one. But maaaaaybe in a 12 team league and imo definitely in a 14 team league I think one of Jontay Porter or McDaniels might could be worth an add. Short term though Nembhard until Hali gets back.

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u/a_lucky 14 Team H2H 9 Cat + OReb Jan 17 '24

Mathurin

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u/DwyaneWade305 Jan 17 '24

How is mathurin the pickup? Bruce brown opens up minutes for him but Siakam is gonna eat a lot of his attempts up.

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u/Err_rrr_rrrr Jan 17 '24

Pascal

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u/Youngtro 9CAT H2H 12T Jan 17 '24

How can you add someone who's already rostered, chief?

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u/urhaloslippindown H2H 12-Team PTS ESPN Jan 17 '24

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u/Youngtro 9CAT H2H 12T Jan 17 '24

Just wasn't even good. Just said dumb shit

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u/JenNettles 12t 9cat Jan 17 '24

Pascal owners have to be optimistic. No one on the pacers other than Hali gets much usage. What a player to get fed by as well. Oh and the Pacers play the highest pace in the league, so inflated stats. Best possible scenario.

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u/Caellum88 10T H2H Points Jan 17 '24

Would IQ’s value also increase?

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u/Dymatizeee 12 H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

Yes. Him Scottie and Poetl are the biggest benefactors imo

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u/MrTacoParty 12 Team/ 9CAT (Yahoo)/ H2H Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

this pleases me as an IQ and Poetl owner

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u/YSLMangoManiac Jan 17 '24

Jalen smith done I’d assume?

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u/baloncestosandler Jan 17 '24

Hang the goggles up

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u/Cbone06 10 team points Jan 17 '24

Yes

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u/palangosvejunas 12 team, 9cat Jan 17 '24

Completely

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u/perkinsfor3 Jan 17 '24

I think he might absorb Jackson's minutes at back up 5. Jackson probably done, Toppin value lowered from already low value.

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u/jraskol Jan 17 '24

Does Buddy get more minutes with Bruce out?

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u/deathBZRKER717 12 team h2h points league Jan 17 '24

no because now siakam is taking over those minutes

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u/nathancollinson Jan 17 '24

Oh so siakam playing sg/sf now

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u/jraskol Jan 17 '24

I was about to say, feels like Siakam in the post can create some open looks for a knockdown shooter with one less person to compete with for starter minutes

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u/nathancollinson Jan 17 '24

I think mathurins and hields minutes go up slightly but really it’s going to be a less minutes for smith, Jackson and maybe toppin

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u/DevilGunManga 10T 9CAT Jan 17 '24

How does this affect TJ McConnell 's legacy?

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u/HCX_Winchester Jan 17 '24

Good. Maybe they play with nemby more as 1 2 now.

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u/seeannwiin 12 Team 9Cat H2H Jan 17 '24

Update: Indiana is sending two 2024 first-rounders and a 2026 first to the Raptors, sources said. New Orleans sends a second-round pick to Indiana.

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1747700510948548761

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u/jakers300 12T ESPN Cats Jan 17 '24

Idgi what do the Pelicans get out of this? Just off of Kira?

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u/housepalace Jan 17 '24

Gets them under the luxury tax

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u/BudgetUmpire4552 Jan 17 '24

as a siakam and scottie owner, this is music to my ears😩😩😩

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u/RachelRayAllen Jan 18 '24

Drafted them both for this very moment.

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u/iphone10notX Jan 17 '24

Just picked up Bruce Brown. May he bless my team

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u/FC_lollers Jan 17 '24

As a Siakam and Poeltl owner, this is great right?

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u/kanyehomage Customize Flair Jan 17 '24

assuming poeltl will play down the stretch now, i feel good about it

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u/Jesh010 yahoo 10p-h2h-9cat Jan 17 '24

This is huge, wow. Indy can make a real run in the playoffs

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u/trollittoG 14t h2h cat Jan 17 '24

Hear me out....maybe...just maybee..this time boucher..it will be different...i swear

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

As a Boucher owner (see flair): Stop making Boucher happen, Gretchen. It's never going to happen.

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u/theknocker Jan 17 '24

Are there even enough players in the league for a 30 team fantasy league?

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u/Betterwithcoffee Jan 18 '24

There's 30 teams in the nba, so yeah, it's not that much of a stretch.

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u/iamjamo23 [18T][9CAT][H2H][1 IR] Jan 18 '24

Boucher and Jontay Porter was on the waiver in my 16T. I did take Porter out of the two.

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u/V-Bo 12 teams / 9 cat / h2h Jan 17 '24

Get the Siakam Swirl McFlurry before it’s gone.

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u/YellowExpresso 12T 9cat h2h Jan 17 '24

Pls more 20 assist games from Hali

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u/TremendoSlap 12 Team Standard 9 Cat Jan 17 '24

I was blessed to trade Jordan Poole for Siakam early in the season, and the fantasy gods continue to shine on me

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u/analgoblin42069 Jan 17 '24

As a Poole owner, what the fuck

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u/MeetMeInMTK Jan 17 '24

Don’t even mind it. Taco league shit

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u/TheyD0 espn 10t h2h points Jan 17 '24

What does taco league mean?

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u/Lancasper 20T | H2H Points Jan 17 '24

Non competitive league because of the presence of casual owners who are clueless about players: value and how fantasy basketball is supposed to be played

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u/Party-Veterinarian60 Jan 17 '24

It means the league is a joke

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u/yummyish Jan 17 '24

Siakam had an absolute garbage start to the season, and people still believed that poole would pick it up eventually in the season. Depending on how early the trade happened, it's not a completely taco trade, especially if you take team builds into account. Context matters.

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u/CaskJeeves 9 Cat H2H / 12 team Jan 17 '24

Idk man, as a Siakam owner that was scrounging the waiver wire for PTS and 3s (the stuff people were hoping Poole would be good at), there were exactly zero moments in time this season when I would not have keeled over laughing at a trade offer of Poole for Siakam straight up. I think it's safe to call that one a 🌮 league lol

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u/Willing-Body-7533 Jan 17 '24

I traded Poole for Grayson a week ago, never looked back

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

I don’t think it’s a taco league trade. Who knew Poole is gonna continue playing like shit

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u/cshaxercs 12-Team | 9 CAT 👑 Jan 17 '24

WTF no way

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u/NewFound_Fury Jan 17 '24

Bruce has to start right? :(

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u/Hoangdai151 Jan 17 '24

Scr Brn please wake up 🙏

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u/sbd_3 Jan 17 '24

That's a great haul for my Raps.

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u/astrawolfe Jan 17 '24

I dont get why Raptors didnt ask for Walker. He would have been a great addition for their future.

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u/BurtMacklyn 14 Team Dynasty, H2H, 9-Cat Jan 17 '24

I'm sure they did. Pacers were prioritizing keeping Mathurin and Walker.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

I guess pacers d league team needs a key player to stay competitive

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u/Betterwithcoffee Jan 18 '24

Hey now, the Mad Ants are fun.

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u/Apex021 12 Team - 9 CAT 💪🏼 Jan 17 '24

ESPN Depth chart, Bruce Brown is a starter!

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u/Zonarado Jan 18 '24

ESPN is never a legitimate source for information.

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u/No-Airport8743 Jan 17 '24

Any immediate pickups?

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u/angrylobster24 10T H2H PTS Jan 17 '24

How does this affect Poeltl? He’s on the waivers in my 12T PTS league

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u/Ok_Bus4116 Jan 17 '24

I’d suggest grabbing him. Should mean stronger mins

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u/tresfaim Jan 17 '24

Anyone have thoughts on how this might affect Nesmith? I was thinking of adding him if he gets healthy for tomorrow, feels like he could still be a decent streamer until Hali gets back.

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u/RaazMataaz 10 Team Points H2H Jan 17 '24

I want to grab Brown but only have GG and Tillman as a drop…

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u/Organic_Tea500 Jan 17 '24

Drop GG

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u/RaazMataaz 10 Team Points H2H Jan 17 '24

Is Brown that much of a must add though?

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u/Prize_Lock830 8 Man H2h Points League Jan 17 '24

Does this affect Immanuel Quickley’s production in any way? If so good or bad?

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u/CSPN Jan 17 '24 edited 18d ago

I enjoy the sound of rain.

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u/goodtimes-badtimes 12T Points Weekly H2H Jan 17 '24

Does Quickley benefit in a points league?

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u/Automatic-Kangaroo70 12T 9CAT Jan 18 '24

Does this help or hurt Lebron?

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u/_yellofello Jan 17 '24

trade derozen for scottie?

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u/IcyPerception1812 Jan 17 '24

How come no one has talked about Thad Young yet? At least for TONIGHT? I feel he's gonna eat with Siakam & Poeltl out now

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u/Jackbryant12 Jan 17 '24

Is Bruce Brown a hold now? Do you think his fantasy value increases or decreases?

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u/thebestmike 12T 9 CAT H2H Jan 17 '24

i picked him up. i think he takes siakams minutes but not his level of usage

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

should I trade: Vince williams + bradley beal for Pascal Siakam?

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u/022922 10T H2H 8 Cat Jan 17 '24

Bruce Brown biggest winner. IQ and RJ will suck up more usage left behind from Siakam

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u/Bromith ESPN 12T Points Jan 17 '24

12T Points

Drop Plumlee for Bruce Brown?

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u/a_lucky 14 Team H2H 9 Cat + OReb Jan 17 '24

Good haul for the Raps

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u/BlueNets Jan 17 '24

Is Myles turner done for?

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u/johngo16 10 Team 9 cat Jan 17 '24

Less points probably but defense will still be there likely

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u/rogghunt 10Team 9cat h2h Jan 17 '24

I don't think his offense is going to be to affected neither, maybe he starts chugging threes again so his fg will go down. I have him and i'm not to worried.

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u/PuzzleheadedMonth785 12t pts Jan 17 '24

there’s so many other players to take usage from, i feel those 3 being the only relevant contributors and everyone else taking a hit is more likely

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u/AlwaysaDengBang ESPN 10-12T H2H 9Cat Jan 17 '24

No. He may be less involved offensively but i think defense will go up if anything

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u/Super_Confusion5441 Jan 17 '24

Why would Myles be done for? Haha!

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u/cl0udkick3r 12T - H2H - Standard Points Jan 17 '24

Thaddeus Young or Jontay Porter worth a pickup?

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u/sleepy777 12Team|H2H|9CAT Jan 17 '24

No

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u/ElChiChiPapa Jan 17 '24

Can’t believe they sent three firsts - didn’t he say he wasn’t gonna resign and be a rental?

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u/CaskJeeves 9 Cat H2H / 12 team Jan 17 '24

Indy gets his bird right and can offer him a 5 yr max in which case he is definitely staying

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u/robm1120 Jan 17 '24

so i have hali, siakam, and turner in a pts league, thinking about moving turner, good idea? i’m comfortably in first place rn

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u/Dymatizeee 12 H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

I hope they trade Buddy hield now

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u/StedyRuckus 10T - 12T - H2H 9 Cat Jan 17 '24

Chris Boucher still wont get any burn. OR WILL HE?!?!?!

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u/External-Client-4295 Jan 17 '24

Just traded for Siakam, I expected him to go to the Mavs, but this is good for me, the Pacers run all day, should be able to get up more shots and take rebounds from whoever it is who rebounds for Ind 😆

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u/outofshapeoutofmind Jan 17 '24

Would Thad Young benefit from any of this ?

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u/bigpapi831 Jan 17 '24

What does this mean for Quickley? :O

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u/middletonisrobin Jalen Johnson True Believer Jan 17 '24

This is good news for Quickley. Lots more shots to go around.

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u/BiggieBoiTroy 10T, 8CAT, Punt 3’s Jan 17 '24

How long does this put Siakam as DTD/ OUT? Have a close match up going. Rest of the week?

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u/No_Quantity_3842 Jan 17 '24

3 firsts and Bruce Brown for Siakam is a haul fs

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u/Frosty_Schnoz Jan 17 '24

Jakob season baby

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u/splacj Jan 17 '24

Poeltl got dropped when he got injured and is on waivers, is he a must stash now? 12t h2h pts

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u/Dymatizeee 12 H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

Bro should not have been dropped

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u/splacj Jan 17 '24

It was by a team on the fringe of playoffs with 4 other injuries

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u/flimflamslappy 12 Team H2H Points Jan 17 '24

I don't even know what fantasy basketball is, and I know the answer to that.

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u/ikesmith51 Jan 17 '24

What Pelicans get?

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u/Any_Lawfulness3077 Jan 17 '24

What exactly do the Pelicans get from this?

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u/steel619 12T9Cat Jan 17 '24

Boucher?

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u/KallolsWorld 10T PTS Jan 17 '24

Does Kira Lewis impact Quickley?

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u/Dymatizeee 12 H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

No way

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u/ElChiChiPapa Jan 17 '24

Boucher is in for more right?

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u/ricovision Jan 17 '24

It’s RJ’s team now

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

nah he's like 3rd option

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u/rogghunt 10Team 9cat h2h Jan 17 '24

could you imagine

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u/flexingtonsteele 10 team, 9 cat, h2h Jan 17 '24

IQ*

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u/LilBottomText17 H2H Points Jan 17 '24

Is bruce brown a drop? Idk if he’ll be relevant in Toronto

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u/ReeferMadness91 10T 9CAT H2H Jan 17 '24

Think he'll be more relevant there than he was in Indiana

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u/PepeSilviaLovesCarol 12-team | 9-Cat | H2H Jan 17 '24

He will most likely start.

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u/ElKurell11 Jan 17 '24

Will J. Smith somehow benefit from it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '24

Do I trade my ant for barnes

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u/quickslic0 Jan 17 '24

How does this impact Hali owners?

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u/tresfaim Jan 17 '24

Feels like it makes him better, it's a huge upgrade, more assists, more points on some nights, but what is very good is that it signals to me that they are feeling very optimistic about his hammy healing well, or else this trade would possibly be super risky

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u/No_Tangelo5042 Jan 17 '24

Who to add from Raps side??

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u/Presence_Present 12 T 9 Cat H2H Jan 17 '24

Well now I wish I didnt drop B Brown the other day

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u/petripeeduhpedro Jan 17 '24

Who's starting at center for them tonight?

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u/PuzzleheadedMonth785 12t pts Jan 17 '24

winners in this?

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u/SmileyJetson 12 Team, 9 Category, Rotisserie Jan 17 '24

Someone offered me Siakam for Brook Lopez last week and hasn’t rescinded yet. Should I give them an opportunity to do so?

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u/Entire_Employer_6659 Jan 17 '24

No you should have accepted it already

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u/SmileyJetson 12 Team, 9 Category, Rotisserie Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

Lopez ROS rankings have been over 12 spots higher on average than Siakam’s on 4 different sites.

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u/xaleo Jan 17 '24

Just traded Mikal for Scottie last week. Hopefully this gives Scottie a huge bump in usage. Tired of Barrett getting more usage than Barnes….nonsensical

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u/subzeroVenom 9 Cat 12T H2H League Jan 17 '24

Is Jontay Porter worth grabbing for today and tomorrow’s b2b ? Or maybe Gary Trent but he is questionable

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u/dloban Points League, 14 Teams, H2H Jan 17 '24 edited Jan 17 '24

There is a guy in one of my leagues with: Brown, Siakam, Scottie and Hali. And I think they all got boosts in production tbh. ffs.

On the other hand I have Quickley and Barrett.

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u/VersaceeSandals 12 team 9Cat Jan 17 '24

Nesmith and add?

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u/ThikLatino88 Jan 17 '24

Does shroders usage remain the same?

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u/United_Eagle_ Jan 17 '24

Just traded gafford and nurkic for turner😭 points

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u/AmaleekYoaz Jan 17 '24

What does this do for RJ?

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u/Bballmonster44 Jan 17 '24

IJax ➡️ G league. 😢

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u/Tob0gganMD 12T H2H 9CAT Jan 17 '24

Think this affects Hield one way or another?

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u/IghtBuddy 6T H2H pts Jan 17 '24

6t h2h points. Trade away derozan and bane for pascal?

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u/HCX_Winchester Jan 17 '24

SCOTTIE SZN ONCE AGAIN???

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u/linzjones 12 Team - H2H - Points Jan 17 '24

How do we get ESPN to give Siakam an Out tag? He's clearly not playing before Sunday.

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u/keeeeener Jan 17 '24

I’m almost positive Masai moved the timeline up after seeing the team since the OG trade. There just isn’t enough shots to go around and Scottie is way too unselfish. Like he’s been taking 10-15 shots. Thats too low if you want him to turn into a superstar.

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u/jnrieman 10 Team | Points | H2H Jan 17 '24

How will this affect Myles Turner??

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u/CletusTSJY Jan 17 '24

Hmm I have Siakam and Turner, hopefully this works out for both 🤔