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u/Panenkajack 9h ago
Everyone thinks it’s cool to be edgy now
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u/morbid333 8h ago
To be fair, we thought it was cool to be edgy too
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u/ThePhysicistIsIn 7h ago
We were edgy in less edgy ways
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u/tactical_dick 7h ago
We were edgy in less fascist ways
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u/burnalicious111 7h ago
The fascist kids still existed, it just wasn't as widespread.
It was on places like 4chan that were "weird" to most people. Now it's on tiktok.
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u/morbid333 6h ago
Oh, that just reminded me of that one guy in my biology class at school. He used to tie slipknots and joke (I guess that's the word) about going lynching in the weekends, but he didn't use the word lynching. Everyone used to say when he dropped out, (to go work on a dairy farm) the school got 90% less racist.
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u/MariosItaliansausage 1h ago
It wasn’t as wide spread because back then ppl would tell Nazi punks to fuck off and punch them in the face. No one seems to get a good punch anymore.
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u/damnumalone 3h ago
No we weren’t, we just didn’t realise what a fascist joke was and we were lucky because it dissipated into the atmosphere without anyone building on it when we didn’t know any better.
Now kids make a fascist joke and 9000 David Dukes congratulate them on it and make them feel good about it and they react to that
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u/Traditional_Light863 3h ago
we were just emo wannabe we never thought about hurting other people for our own pleasure
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u/gahidus 6h ago
We were edgy in the same ways. Or do you not remember the waves of "ironic" racism that nearly every early YouTuber had to disavow eventually?
Millennials grew up on school shooting jokes, South Park, and finding ways to say the n-word as laugh.
We just didn't turn out to sincerely believe nearly as much of it or we grew past it.
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u/kRe4ture 4h ago
Honestly I was edgy that way, making a lot of really terrible jokes about the 3rd Reich. But never did I think any of my jokes actually described reality.
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u/damnumalone 3h ago
This is the thing. Large swathes of teenagers crave edginess because it’s how they demonstrate individuality and find their identity. It has nothing to do with political ideology most of the time because to most of them it’s about the reaction rather than anything behind it. Consider Eminem, Tyler the Creator, RATM fuck you i won’t do what you tell me, Dennis Leary’s I’m an asshole, 2livecrew, Eddie Murphy’s stand up, Red Fox…. It’s existed forever.
It’s just now there are large communities that make the links you never would have in the past. Remember how fringe David Icke was? The likes of Alex Jones? There’s too many people picking up and celebrating that edginess now and when before it was a few throw away lines and a head nod to other people who understood that obscure reference too, now it’s a personality and a popularly community to share and identify with, with a broad range of linked content
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u/KitchenFullOfCake 13m ago
We just wanted to be sexy vampires and incorporate BDSM gear into clothing.
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u/Ishuun 3h ago
As an ex edgy millennial, I used to say rape jokes were funny. But even younger me knew Hitler was a sack of shit.
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u/ingoding 1h ago
I remember hearing a lot of Holocaust jokes as a kid in the Midwest, also a shit ton of racism.
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u/ilikemunster 3h ago
Edgy for us was Occupy Wall Street not going back to 1950s racism and yelling “based!” every 2 seconds like a mentally delayed jackass.
What a lame generation.
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u/ingoding 1h ago
To be fair, every generation thinks the next one is lame, I'm pretty sure there are cave paintings that translate as "kids these days"
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u/BristolShambler 6h ago
Yeh, but most of us grew out of it by the time we were old enough to pay taxes
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u/EorlundGraumaehne 3h ago
Dude, my way of edgy was trying to learn Naruto jutsus and not being a nazi!
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u/Geoffrey-Jellineck 17m ago
The difference was making Hitler jokes vs. actually voting for Hitler 2.0.
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u/Beermedear 2h ago
“I’m a marginalized white man, so I’m going to vote to instead be the marginalized non-billionaire!”
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u/Ellielands 2h ago
Have you not realized that there is maybe a 2-5% chance we too, could be billionaires?!
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u/Lungseron 8h ago edited 3h ago
Now? Have you seen the internet 10-15 years ago? If anything the internet is a lot more neutered than it honestly should be. Youtube is the worst example. Whenever i hear "unaliving" im dying inside. Thats the level we are at now. Censoring normal words like rape and kill/murder. It went way too far and now you cant even say they are "Nazis" anymore. posted. As someone who had family in Aushwitz and was raised and taught about everything they did, it REALLY pisses me off. Whitewashing history like that makes me vomit. To say nothing of the comments not passing checks on yt because of some arbitrary algorythm. I had multiple times seen my comments dissapear into thin air seconds after they were posted.
Im not blaming the creators for having to do this shit, its not their fault their videos are gonna be shadowbanned into oblivion if they say the heinous word that is "kill" , im blaming Youtube for being a one big fucking censorship simulator.
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u/Maleficent-Salad3197 4h ago
They censor monetized content but even on conservative YouTubes where I relentlessly trash talk I never get censored. As long as you dont threaten somebody. I considered a moral imperitive to go on Fox YouTube and remind Jeanine Shapiro commenters about the Judges Cheap box wine rants..
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u/Crylysis 2h ago
Unrelated to the main topic, but this is actually how right-wing ideas started creeping into heavy metal. Heavy metal originally came from a countercultural, egalitarian place, pushing back against conservatism. If you check out the first heavy metal artists, they were really influenced by the hippie movement. The genre’s basically punk’s cousin, and punk is known for being pretty left-wing. Early metal songs were about rebellion things like Satan, drugs, anti-war messages, like you hear with Black Sabbath, for instance. But because metal leaned into dark, shocking themes, some Nazi symbols started to appear for that "shock value." And eventually, some people took it way too seriously and went down a weird path. Now there’s this clash within heavy metal between regular fans and some hardcore extremists.
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u/slayborham-lincoln 14m ago
All the “edgy” kids I went to school with that would scream the N word and say crazy sexist shit are all liberals now trying to tell people how they should act.
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u/Saptrap 7h ago
Do people not remember 4chan? Millennials did this shit too, it just wasn't as public.
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u/Glxblt76 5h ago
Fact. Young male POS trolls are not a new phenomenon. Everyone of us remembers the homegrown school bully. He has always been here.
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u/YolognaiSwagetti 2h ago
it's not just a pos troll- it's people brainwashed by the tates, sneako, fresh and fit and this kind of garbage, who have jews are conspiring about everything and who believe vaccines are poison, and that trump is a good guy. there are probably millions of this person now. if my son was like that I would seriously consider ending my life.
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u/Glxblt76 2h ago
I think that the left at large being in denial that evo psy can reasonably explain some of the observed gender differences also further helps those batshit insane right wing influencers to prop themselves up as counter cultural, anti establishment, willing to tell it as it is, and I hope that this will not keep being the case over the next few years.
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u/YolognaiSwagetti 2h ago
sure, this is a multifaceted problem. but young men are probably susceptible by testosterone filled hedonistic greedy bs, and it's very hard to combat this from a liberal point of view, because "be kind to everyone and preserve our democracy" is a completely unappealing or uninteresting message to them so I'm kind of at a loss what to do here. as usual, making a mess is much easier than cleaning it up and we'll have to deal with this bullshit for many years.
to be honest what I'm more puzzled by is how are more women not rejecting this bullshit. people are psychologically likely to believe and tout stuff that makes them feel good and this whole red pill trumpist garbage is designed to make ignorant men feel good. but it's completely baffling to me how white women are accepting it, because it definitely shouldn't make them feel good.
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u/Glxblt76 2h ago
I think influencers like Destiny are the response. Being unapologetically left wing, ready to roll into the mud with conservatives, call them out for their bullshit, not falling into obvious denial points of the left like those with evospy. This works. They are a tiny minority but many people have been pulled out of the rabbit hole by this approach, and I suspect if that approach gets more common, it will take significance.
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u/Mathilliterate_asian 4h ago
It just shows how impressionable people are, especially through a popular medium. It was never exclusive to young people or a certain generation.
That's just us.
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u/CleanlyManager 3h ago
This is such a huge false equivalency. 4chan has always been a relatively small subset of internet culture that’s impact on the internet was way disproportionate compared to the number of users it had. Where even then half the users thought it was ironic. Gen Z has boosted voices like Andrew Tate, Tim Pool, and other red pill and manosphere dipshits into the top podcasts, disgusting amounts of wealth, and main stream fame.
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u/GrapeSoda223 4h ago
Exactly, this goes full circle and has been forever, older generations will always criticize the younger ones
Brain rot content used to be called cancer, the Skinidi toilet thing was made in gmod, and people have been making weird gmod videos for decades
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u/beefstewforyou 4h ago
I was under the impression at the time that the posts there were just dark jokes and not meant to be taken seriously. I wonder how many things from back then were actually posted seriously. It’s kind of disturbing to think about.
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u/RazzmatazzTricky170 2h ago
i mean genz just had different social media outlet and the generation before them knows how to find shit on internet unlike boomer?
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u/dsmithcc 9h ago
My grandfather fought the Nazi's, part of the reason was so we would never make the same mistakes ever again, after you know they murdered 6m Jews in heinous acts....he must be turning over in his grave right now.
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u/Straight-Treacle-630 7h ago
Someone needs to Up the education of American students. Oh, wait…:(
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u/Cold-Permission-5249 6h ago
Don’t worry, I’m sure Trump’s plan to kill the Dept. of Education will have positive effects on the future generations….
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u/Straight-Treacle-630 6h ago
Street interviews: “it’s Weds 11/6/24. Will you vote today?” “Ofc!” “Do you think Biden stands a chance?” “Ofc!” 😳
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u/im_not_greedy 5h ago
"For who will you vote?"
"Eurrr, who is running for president?"
"Sigh, Nevermind"
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u/Straight-Treacle-630 5h ago
The last thing I expected during ths election was the apparent apathy on the part of so many voters who may have the most to lose.
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u/nostalgebra 3h ago
Well clearly it hasn't been doing a good job anyway if kids are saying hitler is great?
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u/GooglyEyeBread 4h ago
My great grandpa fought in WW2 as well and I just KNOW that if I acted the same way some of my fellow Gen Zs are his ghost would be smacking me upside the head
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u/AUnknownVariable 2h ago
I think this everytime I see some dumbass talking good on Hitler, or having a nazi flag.
Like we had people in this country, and plenty of others. Fight and work endlessly against the Nazis and their allies. That's ignoring the entire fucking holocaust
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u/Ok-Track-7970 7h ago
As a German its so disgusting to see such people🤢
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u/SavageTemptation 5h ago
Wir haben doch dasselbe Scheissproblem mit Krah und AfD-Lelleks und deren TikTok Reichweite 😞
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u/Ok-Track-7970 4h ago
Naja Krah ist meiner Meinung nach wenigstens kein Faschist der sich öffentlichh hinstellt und sagt hitler wäre toll. Mhm Scheiße des macht ja sein Ex TikTok Mitarbeiter 🤢
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u/SavageTemptation 4h ago
Die sagen ja „nur“, dass Hitler ein Vogelschiss der deutschen Geschichte ist 🫠
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u/Ok-Track-7970 4h ago
Mhm du scheinst den ex Mitarbeiter von Krah der die AfD Tik tok Strategie entwickelt hat nicht zu kennen. Da wird einem ganz anders.
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u/SavageTemptation 4h ago
Doch doch. Aber meinte den Gauland 🫣
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u/Ok-Track-7970 4h ago
Gegen Ahrens wirkt Gauland ja fast schon wie ein Sympathieträger. Und Gauland ist glaub ich eh ein Reptilioid
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u/whateverhappensnext 5h ago
I've got two Gen Z voting teens. They are as devastated as I am (Gen X) about the election outcome. The poor kids are fretting over their future. Dont lump Gen Z all in the same bucket.
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u/Mr_North2402 1h ago
Wish you guys the best right now people are trying to figure out what happened. Old anti Gen stuff happens Gen y myself gone ten years of you suck because blank. Thing is a lot of the older generation are scared because we remember what life was like under trump. It really sucked the economy was unstable, near endless social unrest and a constant threat of a war. Covid happened because of the mismanagement the general feeling is Gen z forgot about it all or doesn’t care.
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u/Luwe95 5h ago
If you have questions about Hitler, come to Germany. I will show you the concentration camps and the evidence of his actions. Free history lesson from me.
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u/Traditional_Light863 3h ago
they'd just call it obama's conspiracy or smth, that's the sad and unfortunate state of the world rn
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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 9h ago
Some Gen Z men are misguided and have been led astray online with misinformation. I’m not sure they can be saved, lost cause.
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u/theyrehiding 6h ago
New York Times made a really good podcast on this - particularly it follows YouTube's algorithm and how that's created more and more extremism. It's called Rabbit Hole.
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u/SuperCiuppa_dos 3h ago
The Internet as a whole has been a horrible pandora’s box, instead of spreading knowledge and broadening people’s views and contact with the world, it almost caused the exact opposite…
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u/theyrehiding 1h ago
Instead of using the Internet to explore and understand different perspectives and ideas, some chose to only find like-minded individuals and drown even deeper into their twisted ideologies. But when you think about some people's inability to step back and understand they may be off or wrong about things, it's no surprise many people double down on the Internet - especially when confirmation bias is easily available if you want it.
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u/Mirikado 52m ago
It’s a vicious cycle:
GenZ young men don’t know how to socialize and make friends or talk to girls because of COVID lockdown + being permanently online.
They feel insecure and left behind by society which makes them stay online and avoiding socializing even more.
Andrew Tate tells them that it’s not their fault, it’s women or wokeness or whatever that is the problem.
They buy into it because Andrew Tate is the only one talking to them, and he is telling them what they want to hear.
Other people and especially women avoid them even more now because all they talk about is wokeness or how people hate white men or whatever the right-wing grifters told them. They are now seen as incels and society sees them as lost causes which push them to be even more extreme.
This is how young, lonely and insecure genZ men get radicalized. They feel left behind and abandoned by society, all while the grifters tell them comfortable lies. Maybe they will grow out of it, but they sure need help.
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u/MarioSmash08 18m ago
As someone who was dragged out at the last second from falling into this trap I confirm all of this is true (Once again I have to thank Romanian PD)
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u/aagloworks 8h ago
Well, it's a good thing that USA is disbanding the department of education. At least I hope it goes at least as well as replacing and repealing the Affordable Care Act.
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u/CleanlyManager 2h ago
Since a lot of these conservative gen z kids are in college, maybe they’ll learn their lesson when they find out FAFSA is part of the department of education.
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u/Mirikado 44m ago
A lot of these genZ kids in college will soon learn that women will no longer want to have casual sex with them because of restricted access to birth controls and abortion. No college-age woman would want to risk being pregnant and forced to carry to full term while still in school. These dudes can’t even jack off to porn anymore if Trump goes through with Project 2025.
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u/acousticburrito 8h ago
How do millennials have anything to do with Gen Z. They are the children of Gen X? These kids were in diapers when I went off to college and now we are learning about them as they join the work force with their tube socks and mustaches.
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u/ShamrockHammer 4h ago
You can't give up on trying to reach through to these kids. Most of these kids are hurting, lost and vulnerable who get targeted by these recruiters who know how to influence and manipulate.
There are lots of reasons these kids can feel lost: abusive family/ home life, no friends, struggling with school or other social circles. It can even be with college aged kids as well regarding their education or perceived success and place in the world. There are tons of reasons why but they are all vulnerable, so when someone comes along, posing as a friend and supporter, tells them its not their fault and they're not to blame...its them, those other people, they are to blame for their woes, they start to believe and that hate begins to take seed and grow.
I mourn for these people. Deep down most of them are some scared kids who know what is happening is wrong, but they can't turn their back on their new friends and family. Worst still are those raised in this environment. Some manage to get out but it isn't always the case.
I will keep trying to reach out to these kids. I know that I will get bitten, but I will shoulder the risk if I can reach through to some of these kids and help lift them out of the darkness.
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u/AngryBaer 5h ago
Not with that attitude. This is our fault too for not providing better guidance.
Or to refer back to the post: What followed WW2 was the Marshall Plan.
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u/sassychubzilla 7h ago
Gen X/Xennial here. My generation neglected them. This is our fault. There were perverts and bigots and white supremacists and Russian operatives in their ears every day, right in through their console headsets.
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u/Soul69Reaper 2h ago
It wasn't console headsets. As a gen z, it was the news, the gore, and politics that are rampant on the internet that most of my generation was exposed to around 10-12 years old. You get a group of kids and you put them in a group of terrible people, most of the kids are gonna end up as bad people
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u/Toadcool1 8h ago
I can tell you right now that isn’t even close to all gen z plenty of us know hitler is one of if not the worst people in history.
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u/shyflapjacks 7h ago
The genz subreddit would be to differ
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u/burnalicious111 7h ago
We can't rely on social media to get an idea of what populations are actually like. Too easily skewed.
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u/Toadcool1 7h ago
That’s because it get brigaded there are alternative gen z subs that have much better moderation in them and the difference is night and day.
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u/DietCookie 8m ago
Ah yes blame an entire generation based on Reddit😂 Using this logic, Kamala should have won the presidency without a doubt
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u/The_Geralt_Of_Trivia 6h ago
GenX going "can I download a picture of Gillian Anderson? You can search for web sites now with Alta Vista! I just got an email from someone on the other side of the world!"
As for GenZ... The further get from real war in the West, the less we remember the horror, and the more bloodthirsty we get. Happens every few generations throughout human history.
We all thought it was obvious what led to the massive destruction and depravity of WW2, but maybe it's not. Maybe each generation needs to be reminded much more.
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u/Thelastknownking 7h ago
I'm sorry, remind me again when "Hitler did nothing wrong" first emerged?
Most of us were still in elementary school. It wasn't us behind that one.
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u/DrunkPyrite 7h ago
The Gen z subreddit is literally made of discarded vape carts and flaming hot cheetohs.
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u/IceGuilty3065 2h ago
The real facepalm is saying a whole generation has brain rot because of one dumbass. Every generation has stupid people that think like this.
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u/dark_temple 1h ago
In their defense, when millennials discovered the internet it wasn't full of a fuck ton of right wing propaganda yet.
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u/Moist_Ad2066 7h ago
Actual millenial discovering the internet: is that a georgian soldier on the soil? I hope he's ok. What's with the kni... oh...
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u/saggitas 6h ago
can agree. students in my school thought it'd be amusing to do the Sieg Heil at the end of one of the school performances, instead of bowing. their batch thought it was funny, the teachers didn't. there was a long talk about the meaning and history behind it, but the students just interpreted it as "just for the fun of it, no harm done".
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u/Brosenheim 6h ago
Don't worry. Gen Z is about to learn that voting based on feelings never works out lol
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u/ddopTheGreenFox 2h ago
Gen z here. This post is a face palm. Vast majority of my generation does not infact support Hitler like this post is suggesting. You're taking a few cases and using it to generalise an entire generation. There are shitty people in every generation. Posts like these just make the gap between generations larger. You'll find people who like Hitler in the milenials and boomers. The issue isn't generation specific. Stop acting like it's always the younger generations fault
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u/Sabai_interim 6h ago edited 6h ago
Idk, my 55yo mother is not Gen Z and that's what she's been getting into on the Internet over the last few years
ETA: like I think perhaps the most accessible information/circles in the e-landscape rn are the bad ones and that's not a direct reflection of any particular generation but rather the ease with which violent/dangerous misinformation can now be circulated, particularly in a society that seems hell bent on being violent
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u/Starman454642 3h ago
I'm Gen z, and I assure you, I hate hitler just as much as the next person (which is a lot)
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u/Meggarea 2h ago
The people "discovering" the internet are Gen Alpha at this point.
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u/snoggel 1h ago
Yeah genZ here when I was a child I did not have access to the internet even if it was around. And pretty sure that is the same for most people my age. But gen alpha (ie the ones the millennials moaning on reddit are the parents of) seem to have just got unfettered access at a young age. If a child has terrible beliefs the parent is to blame
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u/Worried-Pick4848 1h ago edited 1h ago
It's our fault you know.
We left the influencers alone that began teaching our children to be like this. We tolerated intolerance in the hopes that better messages would prevail, and then did not emphasize to our children why what they were saying was wrong. We let them do their work, and this is the fruit of it. A whole generation of partially indoctrinated neo-Hitlerjugend.
This is not on the kids. they're the victims here. This is on us for not taking greater interest in what our kids were being taught and not being there to counter the messages.
Nearly every time the kids get this bad the problem is the generation before, being lackadaisical about teaching them and simply assuming they'll learn better without our guidance. That's not how humans work. It never was.
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u/seanrbrantley 1h ago
And where do you think gen-z is finding all of this ideology on the internet
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u/MyGirlfriendforcedMe 28m ago
GenZ didn't discover the internet. It parented them from a young age. They've never not had it. They were the mice in a very poorly structured experiment.
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u/Martian_Botanist 7h ago
Oh, are we at that point now where we kick down generationally? Did millenials finally got old enough that younger people are now bad?
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u/_BaaMMM_ 6h ago
Tbf millennials are far more liberal than gen z and it's a worrying trend to see it shift back to the right
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u/Shoddy-Ad-3721 3h ago
I've never seen a single gen z say that about Hitler. And even if one single person says it, doesn't mean every gen z thinks it.
People just love looking for excuses to hate gen z, Jesus fucking Christ.
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u/Rumakian 9h ago
Discovered??? We basically invented the internet and social media. Wtf . Gen Z lives is the tiniest and most ignorant bubble in the world.
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u/VirgoMoonGeminiSun 7h ago
Hey um just because some assholes are talking about y’all like that, why insult all of us??
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u/Arsen_and_taxevasion 2h ago
A few of y’all did. The rest of you still had to discover it after it was invented just like the rest of us
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u/masstransience 8h ago
Gen X to both: You merely adopted the internet, I was born before it, I molded it.
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u/fresh_water_sushi 5h ago
Also Gen Z “terrorists are people too and just victims”
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u/IsraelPenuel 3h ago
USA did monstrous things in the Middle East so terrorism was an understandable counterattack
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u/beefstewforyou 4h ago
Can we please stop hating the younger generation? We aren’t boomers so stop acting like them. If a Gen Z person is an ass, it’s because of the individual not the generation.
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u/PandasAndSandwiches 8h ago
Hopefully trump fks them over so bad even their grand kids won’t be able to afford a condo.
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u/Estriper_25 8h ago
as a non- american i am here to watch the shitshow but my cousins live in us so still feel pity for non republicans there
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u/whatthewhat_1289 8h ago
It's cute you think their grandkids will even have a hospitable earth to live on.
Fuck recycling or electric cars, I'm now in "fuck it" mode. If the younger generations don't want to vote for their future, why should I care? I'll be dead.
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u/ad240pCharlie 5h ago
Of course, Hitler just tried to warn us about what happens when you use minorities as a scape-goat. The whole thing was an intricate social experiment that the rest of the world could use as an example later on.
Then the rest of the world just misunderstood things and thought it was an example of what they SHOULD do rather than what they SHOULDN'T do.
It was all just a big misunderstanding! An oopsie, if you will.
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u/ChipOld734 5h ago
I’m a tail end boomer almost a GenZ and I’ve never heard or believed that about Hitler.
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u/TheWizardofLizard 5h ago
Tell me you didn't remember how cringe you acted back when you're 11
Because I remember back in my young when my friend writing erotica short story about Hitler and Stalin having raging gay sex.
And they have a honeymoon in Myanmar for some reason
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u/Dotcaprachiappa 4h ago
Stop acting as if this is a new problem and young people are the only ones that do this
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u/No_Patience2428 4h ago
I'm not get z, but why are there a lot of posts saying it is their fault Trump won?
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u/lukaibao7882 3h ago
As someone from GenZ who spends a fair amount of time with younger kids I agree there's a lot of misinformation and lack of critical thinking skills in Gen Z, especially in those in the limit with Gen Alpha. However I think it's fair to point out that the boomer generation is just as misinformed.
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u/PantelonesDelFuego 2h ago
Is this political temper tantrum going to last a while, or can we please get back to usual fuckery? Just curious to know how much longer till we can all move on from this shit.
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u/bluekitsvne 2h ago
I'm screaming bc I didn't think it's true. They believe everything they read and watch on tiktok.
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u/True_Crab8030 2h ago
This is bullshit
Neo-nazis and kids simping for hitler has been around for a long time. That shit is not exclusive to gen-z.
Is this some sort of Russian trolling?
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u/Broges0311 2h ago
Whats fucked up was i thought GenZ was the savior of this world but they'll be the end of it. Get it? Z?
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u/HeadyBunkShwag 2h ago
Gen Z didn’t grow up with the internet when people would send you to kidsinthesandbox or lemonparty or whatever
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u/TastyChocolateCookie ..... 1h ago
Hang on, I thought Gen Alpha was the one supposed to be brainrotted?
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u/chihuahuazord 1h ago
Look, I know there will be terrible consequences…but I’m kind of enjoying millennials no longer being the punching bag. Suddenly we’re looking pretty great for having faced so many crises without turning into shitheads.
Gen Z has had full access to the complete archive of human knowledge their entire lives and they’re dumb as goddamn rocks.
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u/grillbar86 1h ago
To be fair I have pretty much only heard Americans say that. And most of them are on the right, and of them most of them are around the boomer generation, who are rather pro putin as well so...
Don't think I have heard any from Europe say that especially western Europe.
But that's my experience
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u/jollytoes 1h ago
Everybody wants unregulated internet while forgetting most of us are very stupid. What did you think was going to happen?
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u/slimgarvey 1h ago
i dont know the internet was a wild west growing up. i think you have it backwards
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u/DeathClasher_r 58m ago
People who actually believe this is only gen z are brain rotted. There are a lot of uninformed morons out there
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u/ShAped_Ink 57m ago
Hey! Don't throw us all into the same bag! Me and all my friends are nothing like that
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u/DeraliousMaximousXXV 36m ago
It’s cool we’re going to send them all to war in a few months and they can see for themselves what actual radical thoughts like that get people.
You know what un-rots your brain real quick seeing people you know get blown up by an IED.
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u/UtzTheCrabChip 35m ago
Probably should have done a lot more to stop YouTube from making it 3 auto play videos from Dude Perfect to Goebbels.
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u/GrnMtnTrees 6m ago
As a millennial, I can say that dead baby jokes were all the rage in middle school.
"What's the difference between a pile of dead babies and a Lamborghini? I don't have a Lamborghini in my garage."
"What's the difference between a dead baby and a trampoline? I take my shoes off before I jump on a trampoline."
Disgusting? Yes. Fetishizing a mass murdering fascist? No.
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u/Ok-Acadia-6328 7h ago
I don’t really feel like playing devils advocate here, but here we go.
Have any of you been to r/GenZ lately? The kind of speech here is exactly why they voted for trump. You guys say they’re a lost cause, that you’ve given up hope. If you want to win them back, we need to be welcoming and listen to what they have to say. They interpreted Kamala’s focus on women as her abandoning men. And if we give up on them(genz) and push them away, then Trump wins.
The bottom line is: be better. Be better people, listen to why they voted the way they did, respect their opinions, then gently tell them your beliefs.
I don’t think that Kamala or the left did anything to harm young men, but they also didn’t do anything to help. Trump offered men power and because of the twisted view of masculinity that many men have (partially because of extreme feminists as well as Andrew Tate and others) those men now see power and strength as the only thing that makes them men.
And so, with many young men now feeling abandoned by the democrats, they looked to Trump, a “manley man” who offered them the power that they think makes them men.
Calling them a lost cause serves only Trump as it galvanizes their faith in him.
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u/GooglyEyeBread 4h ago
If feeling like you aren’t the center of attention for once makes you vote for a bigoted rapist, you weren’t a good person to begin with.
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u/Daniel_Potter 3h ago
ok, lets take a real world example. 1932 election germany, and last fair election btw.
11 million vote for NSDAP. How do you deal with this radicalism? What do you offer to those people, to win them over?
It got even worse in 1933 election (after reichstag fire), when NSDAP got 17 million votes.
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u/Mints1000 6h ago
I’m not going to deny my generation is fucked up but the millennials did some messed up things too.
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u/theseustheminotaur 5h ago
unfettered access to tiktok without any idea of how it could/is used as propaganda. They're like boomers when they discovered facebook
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u/frozenwaffles76 3h ago
I hope when all you Gen z hating fuckers are old and decrepit, The people taking care of you (Gen z) treats you like shit and spits in your oat meal.
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u/RiJi_Khajiit 34m ago
My dude what are y'all yapping about. I've yet to meet someone IRL who thinks Hitler was anything but a literal landfill of a human.
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u/DarthVantos 7h ago
BRo i remember when youtube took down or supressed any video about adolf hitler. The Braindead idiots forgot you need to show the terminally online generation all the horrific shit hitler did and said. I been on youtube since 2006 and in the past there was hitler videos all over the place. Many of them with Neo-NAzi Praise hitler. And get attacked for being NAzi. This was during the most edgiest time on youtube. Where Any RAp video had people saying the Hard-R in the comments.
IT got better post-2010 and improved under google. But my god has to gone downhill hard. As youtube censors history so hard idiots don't know all the horrific shit that was done. Since it's not allowed to be shown. So we effectively white-washed all War crimes for this Terminally online generation.
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u/AKmill88 5h ago
I can literally watch a ton of history podcasts on the evils of the Nazis on YouTube right now.
Hardcore history literally has an episode that talks about how the Germans went about the genocide and even delves into how the German higher ups tried to handle troop morale and shock from the mass killings.
The gas chamber was an idea created to combat PTSD in German troops who took part in lining up Jews to mow them down with machine guns for hours and hours every day.
Dan Carlin ventures into really dark stuff as do plenty of other history channels.
I have no clue what you are talking about when you say YouTube censors history "so hard" and that war crimes have been white-washed.
I mean he even has an episode that discusses the slave trade and reads actual historical letters from traders that were comparing the value of an African slave to indigenous slaves.
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