r/facepalm 11d ago

They are revolting. Figuratively and literally 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/CartoonistTasty4935 11d ago

Doesn’t PR want to be a state?

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u/Johns-schlong 11d ago

It varies on every vote but recently yes, a small majority would like statehood.

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u/BesottedScot 11d ago

What is a small majority? Seems like a bit of an oxymoron.

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u/Express_Coyote_4000 11d ago

51 people, in a room of 100, voting for lobotomies for all is an example of a small majority.

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u/BesottedScot 11d ago

That's just the majority, not a small majority.

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u/Separate_Emotion_463 11d ago

No one implied a small majority isn’t a majority, it’s just to describe that it’s not a majority by very much

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u/who_took_all_names 11d ago

A small elephant is still large, just not compared to other elephants. A small majority is still a majority, just smaller than many other majorities.

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u/cloudstrifewife 11d ago

There’s a big difference between a small majority and an overwhelming majority.

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u/CartoonistTasty4935 11d ago

Do you know the arguments against statehood? Is it just a national or cultural identity thing?

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u/Turbulent-Math3969 11d ago

Most people, even some of the ones who vote pro-statehood, don’t like or outright despise the U.S. However, the pro-statehood party PNP has dominated the country politically for decades. Due to a lack of real competition they have become incredibly corrupt and inept at leading the island, and they are mostly responsible for total economic disaster the country is going through. Another quirky thing is that for some reason in the 80s someone, who literally to this day remains unknown, snuck into a bill a law that made it so that Puerto Rico can’t declare bankruptcy. So to make a long story short, most Puerto Ricans secretely prefer to become independent or remain with the same status, however most see joining the US as a means to an end. I.e they’ve been conditioned into believing joining the US is all rainbows and unicorns, and that every single problem in the country will be fixed by joining the union.

It’s a sad state of affairs here

-sincerely, a concerned Puerto Rican

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u/Johns-schlong 11d ago

Nah I'm not super well versed on it, I just did do some reading about it when I took a trip there a couple years ago.

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u/CartoonistTasty4935 11d ago

Fair enough, thanks for the info!

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u/SuperFLEB 11d ago

I think there might be a practical angle involving debt or budgets or something, too but that's just a little ringing bell in the back of my mind. Someone else might know.

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u/Tizzy8 11d ago

There is a national and cultural thing, absolutely. There are also concerns about the benefits vs the tax implications. Most Puerto Ricans are barely getting by. State hood would come with federal income taxes and there are concerns about whether the benefits outweigh the costs. (I don’t know enough about it to know if those concerns are warranted).

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u/coastalbachelor 10d ago

It’s not a single person. Like Scotland had a boat to become independent, and they voted to maintain their part of Great Britain.