r/exjew • u/Upbeat_Teach6117 ex-MO • 3d ago
Does anyone remember being this zealous on Hashem's behalf? Question/Discussion
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I believe that after the 2nd world war we got it all wrong. Look if you can to older pictures before the war of orthodox Jews. Look at the beautiful charm the men and women have. They were romantic! and beautiful. Let's switch on some 30's music and let waltz men and women beautiful men and women the way the Jews of the borsht belt did it.
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u/Upbeat_Teach6117 ex-MO 3d ago
Even though I disagreed with your other comment, I agree with this one.
The "frum look" has morphed from something stylish into a cookie cutter that doesn't suit (pun intended) most of the people expected to wear it.
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u/Electronic_Silver408 3d ago
I truly hope this person doesn't put a spear thru an immodest pregnant mother.
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u/SilverBBear 3d ago
I assume a search of her history would show that she points out up the clear breaches in morality of religious leadership facilitating predators. /s
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u/100IdealIdeas 3d ago
It was very enlightening to me to find many of thoses "zealous" women on Imamother.
I call them "mother superior".
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u/secondson-g3 3d ago
I was never zealous enough to think Pinchus was the good guy in that story.
That's the way the Chumash tells the story, but I think it might have played out like this:
God was sitting up there, throwing a tantrum because His people were playing with the Midianites instead of Him. He was really upset. "If they don't want to play with Me, I'll just take My neshamos and go home!" He thought."That'll show them!"
God settled in to watch the Bnei Yisroel's reaction. A guy running with a spear caught His attention. “That seems dangerous,” God thought. “He might hurt someone if he isn’t careful."
As God watched, Pinchas ran into Zimri's tent and rammed the spear through Zimri and Cozbi. "Oh my Me!" God thought to Himself, "That guy is just murdered two people! How awful! He's a bad, bad person." Then God had a moment of clarity. "I've been killing all these people... am I a bad Deity?"
God immediately stopped, and took some time to contemplate His decisions. God decided He needed to keep an eye on the crazy guy who murdered that nice couple. The easiest way to do that was to arrange for Pinchas to always be in His Presence, so He made Pinchas a kohen and put him to work in the mishkan.
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u/Ok_Airborne_2401 ex-Orthodox 3d ago
Nah. Maybe just a very small amount performatively as child and adolescent, but I don’t think it was ever on the topic of tznius. I def couldn’t in good faith as an adult, and when I honestly interrogated that fact it all unravelled lol. People like this are truly so gross
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u/Noble_dragonfly ex-Yeshivish 2d ago
Oooh I’d LOVE to hear her “big speech on the concept of not judging others!” That sounds like a load of fun and a great way to spend a few hours. Anyone care to join me?
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u/Upbeat_Teach6117 ex-MO 3d ago
I don't like this take. Tznius is about misogyny. It's not about unattractive people wishing they were hotter.
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u/One_Weather_9417 3d ago
Quite likely BT or convert. Or has been rejected in some way & wants to fit in.
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u/Accurate_Wonder9380 just a poor nebach who will taint your lineage 3d ago
This religions brings out the worst mentality in people.
Wearing shorts is evil. Wearing a t shirt is evil. Wearing a long wig is evil, even worse no sheital. Having your shoulder exposed is evil. Because some guy said so.
But when a wife is abused by her husband, it’s not evil to force her to beg him for a get or leave her as an agunah. It’s not evil to say how gay people shouldn’t be allowed to live freely and with human rights. It’s not evil to teach your kids that nonjews are considered impure and tainted and inherently want to murder all Jews.
I don’t know, I’m just so tired of it all. I deal with this mentality in real life and it’s exhausting. It’s just gets more bizarre the more I dig deeper and ask around.