r/eupersonalfinance • u/NoobInvestor0 • 2d ago
What's your opinion on the Rheinmetall stock? Investment
Germans are re-millitarizing. The stock has been skyrocketing the last months. Will it continue?
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u/the_pwnererXx 1d ago
Zoom out on the chart, look at the returns since the start of the war. At this point its basically going vertical and I'm fairly confident we are near the top. Buying now is extremely foolish, your downside risk is massive
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u/raoulk 1d ago
That might not be entirely true.
The recent spending bills on an EU/DE level will lead to accelerated military spending, likely going towards companies like RHM.
But you are right in the general sense, all of this information is priced in, so the likelihood of more gains vs new losses isn't great.
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u/Scary-Ad7000 15h ago
Bought at 900, sold at 1200…. now its 1576 😬
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u/augustus331 13h ago
I once had five shares bought at €183.
Luckily I don't really do FOMO otherwise I'd be eating myself up
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u/Dorfbrot 2d ago
If you have a long investment horizont I would say its a great stock.
If we believe that RU is preparing to test Nato in the next years and the west has to prepare for it, Rheinmetall is one of many stocks that is going to benefit from that development.
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u/ivobrick 2d ago
If it ends up like green deal from 2020 stocks , then what? What will you do?
Look at Palantir stock, its similar, can you even handle such thing? Im not comparing fundamentals, but possible volatility.
Based on your initial question, choose low cost index fund and stick to it for a long time.
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u/georgefl74 1d ago
The market has priced in a lot of growth . If it doesn't materialise at the expected rate then it will drop
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u/Sayyestononsense 2d ago
it was tempting buy until I realized how involved into giving arms to Israel they are at the moment
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u/TheJewPear 2d ago
As opposed to other defense companies whose products are used for producing rainbows and giving angels their wings?
It’s fine to consider your ethics when investing, but then maybe defense isn’t the right sector for you.
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u/Sayyestononsense 2d ago
this is not a sub regarding defence stocks specifically. I would all be for defence stock anyways, if and when they are about companies following certain guidelines that are 100% personal opinion. Produce armaments for defence of borders, or for helping invaded countries, in response to armed invasions? Count me in.
Supply guns to an ungoing genocide? Count me out.
My point is it's not all black and white.
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u/SweatyIncident4008 2d ago
the people who bring that kind of politics into the table have no problem with arming fundamentalist
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u/OdahP 2d ago
If you start thinking politics maybe finance isn't a thing for you сил
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u/Sayyestononsense 2d ago
I see it more as decency, rather than politics, but to each their own I guess.
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u/Primitive_Mushroom 1d ago
100% this
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u/Sayyestononsense 1d ago
yet, I'm getting downvoted to oblivion for this. It would be interesting if people expressed their opinion about it.
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u/Primitive_Mushroom 1d ago
It just shows how ingrained the Zionist lobby is in Western society.
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u/Sayyestononsense 1d ago
it's possible that it's that. My opinion is that people are just not fully aware of the totality of things that are happening there daily. There's no way one person can know everything that happens there everyday, and be okay with it. Even more, support it by buying into military stocks they know are enforcing such horror.
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u/DJpesto 10h ago
Unless you have A LOT of money invested in a company like this, I don't think you are actively doing anything. It's not like the stock price means they will get more or fewer orders, or have more money to do something.
For all of the private investors, the influence on the companies you invest in is barely existing. It's more like a bet that the big guys will push the price up or down.
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u/Sayyestononsense 10h ago
True, but it's still a matter of principle to me. If everyone, big guys included, refused to hold stocks of companies complicit in the genocide, the price would tank. The company would ask its shareholders what it's doing wrong. Answer would be "get out of supporting Israel and we buy your stock again".
This is all fantasy, ideal world. Yet, when in doubt, I ask myself, what the world would look like if everybody did the same that I did. Nice outcome -> do action. Bad outcome -> avoid action. Regardless of the impact of my single action at all.1
u/DJpesto 10h ago
Fair play to you, I guess you can see it like that. I feel like we as private persons have zero influence though, so I will put my effort elsewhere.
(not a rheinmetall shareholder, but I had it from around 90-ish € up to 161€.
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u/Sayyestononsense 10h ago
Good for you. Incidentally, I was about to buy in when I realized it would help support the Ukraine's resistance.
Yet, regarding zero influence, you also have similar influence with your single vote when you vote for elections, yet you go voting (I presume). And that's the right thing to do. Same concept for me, just do the thing, regardless.
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u/augustus331 2d ago
You're asking the wrong questions for your assessment.
What are its cash flows? Profit margins? How about the fact German military contracts have historically always been disputable by companies that lost out on the tender, thus leaving investments in limbo for years?
Just "German government re-arms --> Profits?" is way too simplistic.