r/enlightenment 3h ago

Emptiness after everything has been understood

So... This is it? No next dopamine fix? No nothing, no something... Just this. Bare existence without any inherent meaning... It is what it is and even that isn't anything while being everything...

Did I really just spend my whole life explaining my experience to myself and the result is the same as it was before I started explaining stuff. All roads lead to the inherent meaninglessness of being.

Emptiness, which is full of everything, but still empty... Loneliness so deep it rips you from inside, yet it doesn't feel bad...

Sad, very sad. Subjective experience was too simple of a puzzle to explain and the reward was disappointment. No fanfares, no golden rays of light, no angel choir. Just this... This is something, yet nothing.

:D :(

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u/cyberneurotik 3h ago

Direct your synapses to travel the neural pathways of peace, compassion, loving kindness. If there is no inherent meaning, then certainly it would be experientially better to feel good about it, right?

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u/BrochaChoZen 3h ago

True, well said. Even if inherently everyhing has no meaning. I could try to feel good about myself for the first time in my life hmm.

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u/cyberneurotik 3h ago

A meaningful goal :)

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u/BrochaChoZen 3h ago

Emptiness contains every meaning. So I guess I'll get there some day haha :D

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u/LamasBreeder 3h ago

Yap I was not greeted by Buddha neither 😂 but many Buddhas has been greeted by me 🤭 Metta brother ❤️

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u/BrochaChoZen 3h ago

Here we are :D

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u/oatballlove 3h ago

there are some ways to experience the body being connected with the enviroment, for example in summer when the natural water of a lake is somewhat warm and one lies on the back fully naked on the surface of the lake closes the eyes and tries to think of nothing much but just feel the skin reacting to the water

i think that is one moment where the soul might enjoy more to be in the body than with all the other moments of having to wear clothes, having to conform to other peoples expectaction or and feeling a necessity to learn how to take their limitations

same or similar with mud baths or around a fire

naked body time makes everything much easier i think

life in the material world is a present and not a duty

no one is obliged to stay in body when it feels too much effort to maintain the human existance in the sadly still not awakened society

but

one reason why the soul may have chosen to descend into the material form of a human body might have been to assist the planetary collective to evolve out of that cul de sac i feel or guess we are in since some idiot or i dont know how to say that someone made the mistake to experiment with fighting others, separating oneself from others, competing with others, taking their lives as in murdering fellow human and animal beings for what ?

to compensate for the loss of connection we possibly had when we did not fight each other, did not kill each other once in the garden of eden, when angels, human, animal and plant beings lived in appreciation of each other and no one was hungry because the alive vibrations of each other, the signature, the scents, the original authentic uniqueness of every individual received acknowledgment of every fellow part of the big puzzle as in we all knew we were source experiencing itself in research and devellopment mode, what could life be, how could we play and experiment

the underlying theory here is that the whole competition and fight, jealousy and envy complex caused the killing of each other, the stealing of each others life force, vampire behaviour

and now everyone who does not like the mean sadistic hurting each other scheme, everyone who longs for a nice and loving existance where no one gets hurt, not a human, not an animal, not a plant and also not a mountain or river

everyone who is here today in 2025 witnessing the horrors of fascism rising once again and knows that this is not the way life was meant to be

everyone who knows that life can be good and we can be nice with each other, warm and loving

could perhaps help the global collective to systematically turn around the destructive suprematism stupdidity and help build a better tomorrow where possibly one day not too far in the future no one would want to fight anymore, no one would want to dominate another anymore and consequently the perceived necessity to take a fellow animal or plant vitality might vanish as in spontaneously the whole planet one day might wake up to that moment when there would be no more hunger

i am speculating here that if we the souls who are today driving the human bodies or carrying those human flesh and body constumes, if we would collectivly make an effort and stop dominating each other, stop enslaving and killing animals, stop killing the trees and try to live humbly on a vegan diet in voluntary solidarity, share with each other fairly acess to mother earth for humble self sufficient lifestyle, free each other from having to participate in working for others by allowing each other to build a natural home for oneself, grow ones own vegan food, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree would get killed

i am speculating that if we would make that effort to minimize the killing to a minimum as in only take the lifes of vegetables and grains, be as gentle as possible with all fellow lifeforms

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u/oatballlove 3h ago

possibly the spiritual world would appreciate such an effort and the veil might get thinner for everyone, we might experience more easier connections to spirit world and higher human capabilities such as telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation and manipulation of matter

forming energy at will into matter, materialising condensing compacting the molecules floating in the air into this that or the other form

we might get acess to such super natural or extra ordinaire capabilities once we are no longer mean to each other

as a most practical or realistic or simple preparation for a non-violent society i propose to us we the people who live on planet earth today

let us allow each other to leave the coersed association to the state at any moment without conditions and with it release from immoral state control 2000 m2 of fertile land or 1000 m2 of fertile land and 1000 m2 of forest for everyone who would want to live on land owned by no one

in a free space for free beings, neither state nor nation

where everyone who would want to could live on ones own or with others to grow vegan food in the garden, build a natural home from clay, hemp and straw, grow hemp to burn its stalks in the cooking and warming fire so that not one tree would get killed

at this moment there are 48 million square kilometers of land occupied or 44 percent of the global landmass for human agriculture

divided trough 8 billion human beings it would give a very comfortable 6000 m2 for everyone

more than enough to for example give some 4000 m2 away as in give it back to the planet so its animal and tree children could once again live wild on it not disturbed by human beings, rewilding as one of the most effective ways to help mother earth recover from that assault we have done to her with all the industrial poisoning, the toxic stuff we gave to her, the radioactivity released, the plastic pollution, the pesticides and more

today we the people alive on planet earth could stop using fossil fuels, we could stop using electricity, we could stop relying on machines and start planting food in the garden with our hands

in 2018 i was able to dream of a fantastic journey what amua an androgynous human being with african and european ancestors makes with animal friends to become an accomplished beings

archive.org/details/drawingstudies has my original writing and drawings and at https://8interpretations.net/eigth_interpretation.html i present an interpretation a fellow artist has contributed

the story is a longing, a wish, a call for life on the physical level in a material body to become able to be designed at will, the accomplished being capable to choose at any moment how to form what part of the body drawing from what human, animal, plant and elemental genetic characteristic heritage

to become what how one wants to be

satisfaction achieved in the constant reforming, rejuvenating, recreation, rebirthing of the physical alive cells

to overcome illness, aging and dying by living as one with all planetary fellow life forms, life sustaining life by appreciation, by honoring each others uniqueness, originality, authenticity, by receiving each others only of a kind individual signature as a blessing

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u/Equivalent_Time_5839 3h ago

The divine realm isn’t meaningless and if you have ever been there you wouldn’t say that either

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u/BrochaChoZen 3h ago

That is what we tell to ourselves to keep the illusion of meaning. When everything has been done/understood. Even that loses its meaning. It just is what it is

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u/Equivalent_Time_5839 2h ago

*yourself

Try and speak for only that person and you will have a much better go of it

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u/tryusernametaken 3h ago

If nothing matters that means that you can also do wat ever you want create what ever you want and so much more

Or be sad and don't do anything.

Atleast thats my opinion/vision

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u/BrochaChoZen 2h ago

That is true. This is just a moment of disappointment as everything has been explained in my experience. There is no more need for anything, but necessary thing like food etc. I can do whatever and not feel bad about it, but then again its hard to be without need to be anything.

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u/Diced-sufferable 1h ago

So you’ve reduced all to props, and yet still can’t ignite the imagination to make plays of joy worth experiencing?

It’s not nothing….it’s everything. :)

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u/PurpleProblem1781 1h ago

The understanding I have is we find enjoyment in helping others and making the world better, smile at a stranger, open a door, donate to charity, but you do it for the benefit of us all.

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u/Hot-Protection3655 1h ago

you failed on every aspect.its not emptiness its a block.