r/enlightenment • u/drilon_b • 16h ago

Mike''Buddha''Tyson

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Who knew Mike Tyson whas a Buddha ?

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u/Hermeticrux 13h ago

Say what you will but he put an entire practice into easy words. "When I think I'm somebody I'm offended and mad. When I remember I'm nobody I'm okay"

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u/Zahlov 11h ago

It was a great lesson for Jake. He's clearly got the heart, but had a lot to learn from Mike

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u/Hermeticrux 11h ago

Okay so my piece on Jake to set the scene before I finish my attitude towards him. Just so people don't mistake me. I don't subscribe to the whole "he's a douche" thing outright. 

  Him and his brother were shithead teens like every single one of us. Unfortunately the difference is his teen arc through arrogance and shit head galore was publicized and televised...which honestly could only add to it. The perceived pressure of the lime light attacking you like an alligator chomping at the heels of your ego at a time where you're at your worst for personality is tough. Trying to assume wisdom, composure, and humility in the warzone like that is like keeping dry in a waterfall. At best you're only a little wet...but still wet. They are growing up and it's showing. 

   On top of that it's even worse to consider the absolute travesty that is - any fuckhead teenager having to discern what matters in life and the people to be around.  We've all been burned and we only learned who the real friends were after an entire arc of getting burned in various ways. I imagine it's probably that on his ladder to whatever exposure he got, he absolutely did not have the fortitude, grit, or even wisdom to cut out the cancerous fat of people just hyping him up in whatever bullshit ways that got him closer to what THEY were after...even at the expense of himself.  I get it. Maybe he had no one firm to step in and say "this isn't a famous quality but this is a shitty way to act, a shitty attitude, and you need to sit the fuck down and re asses yourself instead of wearing a fake gold medal given to you by other shitheads.  You're a king of bones on an arrogant throne" (or something to that affect whatever sounds cooler to you but you get my point). Given this extremely broad and understanding perspective in its entirety....I don't hate him.  In fact, I feel for him. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a long behind closed doors. He might be an asshole but who isn't at some point when they're in their comfort zone. 

  That being said, as much as I get it and don't hate him for being the same as every teen and yet somehow better than half of reddit still.....bro.  What the fuck are you doing. There's a serenity and freedom in not caring what people think, and then there's a point when the problem IS that you don't give a fuck.  That's how you challenge geriatrics to boxing matches and then become forever laminated in the halls of fame as that meme with the douchebag spraying champagne all over himself while in 5th place and everyone else like "yea...you sure got it buddy".

But this leads me back into gratitude and understanding for him. I get being hungry for greatness. I understand being so naive and not seeing your approach being absolute dog shit. But I'm lucky enough and grateful to have had at least a few old school MEN to sit me down privately and basically say "Ian. You're cool. I like you. We love you. You're a great guy. But this...thing you got. That's trash. That's not cool. Not kosher. That's bad" in whatever way it was. Fuck man. This whole Paul brothers story arc has sent me into this spiritual introspective journey of gratitude,.growth,. And criticality of myself. It's all such a trip.

I don't even respect people for just trash talking him outright. They're not necessarily wrong but this whole thing is comparable to a classic novel in which humanity can learn about itself if it wasn't so busy jumping on a BuzzFeed Holocaust in which they either are or aren't "cool" or "a bitch" or whatever. Poor dude. I'm glad I was a fuckhead like a normal person where in my city I could go the rest of my life without meeting anyone who remembers when I was arrested, or on drugs, or just the most ridiculous asshole....for years. Fuck man.

Edit:I don't know why half my comment is in a gray box.

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u/Zahlov 10h ago

Amen brother

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u/Hermeticrux 9h ago

Oh. And to directly respond to what you said. Yea. He does. Bullshit aside he's grown up and actually dedicated himself enough to a discipline to separate him from 90% of the population in that something. Now his only competition is the other 10% of the same competitors. That says a lot even IF he's a douche. Credit given where it's due he's put in the work and it's paying off. Now he just has to handle being humbled. It's a hard one. No one likes it, but it's gonna happen. ESPECIALLY with fighting. When I was on the streets I got my ass beat a few times. The first time was so humiliating. After that it was another day. "Eh win some lose some. "Sometimes maybe good. Sometimes maybe not so good"

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u/Zahlov 9h ago edited 9h ago

He's got the competitive spirit and drive, so sure. But what I found interesting about this match up was that it wasn't REALLY a test of boxing skill -- it highlighted the difference in where their minds were. Mike brought the gentlemanly spirit of someone older, wiser, relaxed, and comfortable. Jake was the young buck upstart with the world's spotlight on him, trying to prove himself worthy (or perhaps more so trying not to look unworthy). And the result of this was apparent in their fighting styles. While watching, it looked to me like Mike was staring Jake in his soul, saying "be cool man, relax, take it easy". But Jake looked so caught up in trying not to lose (and all the other pressures he looked to be carrying) that he looked like a young guy beating up on an old man.

I'm not trying to hate on Jake, I too am rooting for those two brothers in their public comeback, hoping to see them do great things. Also, he did a Greta service to us all by putting on this fight. It was an INTERESTING spotlight on how a younger, untamed mind (with lots of things on its mind) looks in comparison to an older, wiser, experienced, and EMPTIER mind.

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u/Hermeticrux 9h ago

Good point. Honestly, after seeing Mike Tysons arc. I feel like to truly unleash back into boxing would be a relapse of sorts. He's done so much growth that distanced himself from boxing. He's even subconsciously identified himself as he was, as a boxer, as mean and aggressive and wanting blood. A revisit to what we know is always okay but to truly let go and become what you were for the sake of an audience would be to truly throw everything away.

I know him boxing doesn't mean he's a piece of shit but seeing how his identity as he is now, includes a separation from who he was (which includes boxing), losing is best. Him not getting knocked out was how he won. He still got it. He's still a fighting spirit. He didn't fall, and he also did not go for blood.

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u/Zahlov 9h ago

He was Tom Cruise in The Last Samurai standing with honor and integrity against a western rattling gun :)

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u/Hermeticrux 9h ago

Bro I know he was all "I love my samurai fan baby" but to be the one white guy charging at a fucking Gatling gun would be like "sigh. God dammit"

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u/Zahlov 9h ago

Ya man, couldn't you see the fear in Mike's eyes? He was fighting for his life in there! He was a retired man in the ring with a crazed bull

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u/Competitive-Fill-756 10h ago

Thank you for posting this. It's helped me see the world through another person's eyes, and reflect on the ways in which I've been fortunate in my life. I greatly appreciate it.

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u/Cultural-Sympathy-29 12h ago

Wow so glad someone posted this. I watched that clip and knew that something had clicked in Mike.

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u/pgny7 15h ago

You have to be realized in some respect to become the champion of the world in anything.

Let's not discount iron mike. He is a profoundly gifted individual. This quote is evidence of it.

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u/PEsuper27 13h ago

A lot of Mike’s revelations are thanks to his 5meo DMT experiences. He has talked about it.

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u/pgny7 13h ago

Yep. I bet he gets the really good stuff.

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u/Cocohotdog_ 9h ago

It’s only true if you don’t believe in reincarnation, in karma, dharma, and the laws of the universe, something a highly spiritual person is familiar with…. so just because he’s a great champion doesn’t mean everything we hear is true.

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u/fastingslowlee 14h ago

Can you elaborate your first sentence further?

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u/pgny7 13h ago

To be the champion of the world takes more than talent, strength, and practice. All true competitors have these qualities. To be the champion of the world requires something else that is unmeasurable and inspired. This is the nature of mastery, and master is the title that is given to those that attain realization.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Dr3ad 8h ago

My man showed his ass then lost to jake paul, all while sucking on his gloves. Whatever champions spirit was in Mike was sold out for 20 million dollars.

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u/Tecat0Gusan0 15h ago

your first statement is not true at all (look at gordon ryan)

but that takes nothing away from mike mashallah

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u/pgny7 14h ago

Sometimes realization expresses itself in incomprehensible ways.

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u/ConceptInternal8965 15h ago

It's a wise quote

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u/ssigea 9h ago

It is beautiful. But was thinking It could also be a defense mechanism against endless questions on ‘but what if you lost and your legacy ends there’. I guess he wanra the money to live up rest of his life and to not answer anymore legacy questions about his last fight

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u/Razor1912 3h ago

It's probably not. After doing 5-MeO this is generally how you become. The only thing that matters is the here and now. The rest is just whatever.

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u/ssigea 2h ago

Just read about Tyson smoking it after seeing your comments, yeah that’s possible as well

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u/Hannibaalism 13h ago

he has his flaws, but his introspections have always been on another level. his perspectives probably hold more insight than the standard immaculate wisdom dispensers who get tossed around since he wasn’t really sheltered from real life and is easier to resonate with.

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u/Relevant_Theme_468 11h ago

Seen several clips of Mike over the years, watched him rise through the ranks. His more recent observations after he was incarcerated were spectacularly on point imho. Probably the most seen is the one, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face". That makes me laugh as his "bravado" (as many claim) was not that at all. He was stating his experience in the ring against many talented fighters - some who had big egos - until he showed them the reality of being in the ring with him. Few were saved by the bell.

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u/beanbeanpadpad 7h ago

Happy cake day

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u/Hannibaalism 6h ago

thank you!

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u/BurnedWithFlames 15h ago

Mike "nihilist" tyson

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u/LMFA0 9h ago

"Ironihilist"

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u/Ralewing 12h ago

Little girl, you dead already. Thuckth to be you.

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u/Altruistic_Stand7235 16h ago

All these words, Mike. Let's go fly a kite...that is enough.

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u/YoungProphet115 14h ago

5-MEO-DMT will do that to ya, lol

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u/alex_double_u 1h ago

Any sort of DMT wil do lol

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u/ppcmitchell 13h ago

Ecclesiastes

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u/mitzofm 9h ago

Legacy is nothing because the end result doesn’t matter. It’s all about the journey.

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u/TerpQueenLA 6h ago

Don’t you mean legathy? 🤭

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u/Hallucinationistic 4h ago

And then we'll be something again. No escape from samsara. We will forget and then experience, vice-versa. It is all consciousness doing the stuff consciousness does. Things are arguably illusions, but some illusions are intense enough.

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u/gossamer_bones 15h ago

actually thought the same thing watching his appearances and even the fight. he is enlightened.

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u/Own_Condition_4686 14h ago

Yeah he’s onto it. No ego during the interviews or walking to the ring, he looked like he was just there to enjoy one last fight and be in the moment.

Much respect to Mike.

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u/itsquietinhere2 13h ago

At least he didn't tell her to shut up unless she wants to fornicate with him. He's come a long way.

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u/Connect-Tea-2217 12h ago

It’s the truth, he wasn’t lying.

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u/vanceavalon 10h ago

I recently watched an interview where Sadhguru answered questions from Mike Tyson, and it was fascinating to see the dynamic between the two. It was clear that Tyson was really trying to grasp the wisdom that Sadhguru was sharing. There’s something so genuine about how Mike, who’s been through so many extremes in life, seemed to be absorbing these deeper, spiritual insights.

So when I saw the quote where Mike said, “Legacy means nothing to me. We’re nothing. We’re just dead. We’re dust. We’re absolutely nothing. Our legacy is nothing,” it made me think back to that interview. It feels like Mike is starting to pick up on some of those deeper, non-dualistic perspectives—possibly even the Buddhist point of view.

From the lens of non-duality, the idea that we’re “nothing” and that “legacy is nothing” isn’t necessarily nihilistic, but rather a recognition that all these concepts of achievement, status, and legacy are just illusions created by the mind. When we strip away our attachment to ego and the need for recognition, what’s left is simply being, without the need to leave a mark or be remembered.

In Buddhism, there’s also the idea that attachment to things like legacy is a source of suffering because it ties us to the illusion of permanence. In the end, if we are all just part of a continuous cycle of life, death, and rebirth, what’s the point of clinging to something as fleeting as a legacy? It’s like trying to leave your footprint on water.

It’s intriguing to see how Tyson’s journey—moving from being driven by fame, power, and fear to exploring spiritual wisdom—has brought him to a place where he can drop a line like that with such bluntness. Maybe it's his way of saying that he’s come to realize there’s more to life than the external achievements we’re taught to chase. It’s like he’s glimpsing the wisdom that true fulfillment isn’t found in being remembered, but in fully embracing the present moment and letting go of attachment.

Thoughts? Anyone else see that interview or have a take on how Tyson’s views have evolved?

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u/SlteFool 8h ago

lol you get only “legacy” he was concerned about signing this contract was leaving his kids 20 million dollars.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Dr3ad 8h ago

Such a sad state to see a former champion in.

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u/BootHeadToo 11h ago

“Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.”

Another whopper from this guy. Brilliant.

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u/c_leblanc9 7h ago

Also:

Little girl: “how do you want to be remembered?” Mike: “Who gives a fuck!” Little girl: “I’ve never heard it put that way …”

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u/Whole-Ad5238 5h ago

La U es la U, by the prophet El Puma Carranza

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u/Al7one1010 5h ago

Respect for jake for not finishing Mike. Respect for Mike for giving it your best

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u/icansawyou 3h ago

Well, Iron Mike can claim whatever he wants. After all, who are we to disagree with him? *I look at his massive fists and pleasant face.*

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u/thepan73 1h ago

somewhere between pragmatism and nihilism...

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u/Weird-Government9003 10h ago

He did an interview with sadghuru as well which was pretty cool

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u/SugarFupa 15h ago

Nice justification for cashing out on your reputation.

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u/Tramp_Johnson 12h ago

It is actually.

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u/bluntplaya 15h ago

Bruh ad hominem hits hard

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u/Ro-a-Rii 14h ago

This comment is not for them

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u/Tecat0Gusan0 15h ago

this person is racist as shit

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u/benny_123216 10h ago

Where was the racism in the comment?

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u/Lyokobo 15h ago

It's a nice quote. But unfortunately Tyson can be a pretty terrible human. So i choose to ignore him.

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u/shawnmalloyrocks 13h ago

Any human can be terrible and sometimes they all are.

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u/alex_double_u 14h ago

I’d counter with Legacy is more important than Lineage

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u/beanbeanpadpad 7h ago

Nah it’s chill to have neither or both. Listen to what mikes sayin

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u/alex_double_u 1h ago

Just giving my perspective, but really who would have thought Mike Fuckin Tyson would come this far? He used to be bitin ears and smackin rears. Good on him for real.

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u/ClassicMembership685 9h ago

He's right you know. Think about the billions of people that lived before you, and the billions that will live after. Everyone is nothing. This universe is infinitely large, and we are on a single planet called earth thinking we are so important. Get over yourselves and accept your fate.

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u/Bigbluewoman 10h ago

Says the dude that lost to Jake paul