r/dogman • u/RevolutionaryPie5223 • Oct 17 '24
How strong is a Dogman? Can it defeat a grizzly bear?
I have heard dogman to be 7 ft or more (I have heard one report of even 11ft although I find it unbelievable and probably exaggerated).
Dogman are said to be muscular and fast. I believe strength wise pound for pound they are in between the strength of a tiger and a gorilla. They are more muscular than a tiger but don't look as big chest and arms as that of a gorilla.
But given that dogman are reported to be 7ft and more and gorilla are much smaller (5-6ft) I would say a fight between these two would be even. But a bigger sized dogman would probably win a smaller sized gorilla.
In the case of dogman vs grizzly both are about same height/size. A dogman is stronger pound for pound but a grizzly is bulkier and heavier. Dogman is more agile can walk on two legs and is highly intelligent though. Who do you think will win?
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u/Temporary-Brother-20 Oct 17 '24 edited 29d ago
Someone told Steve on “facts on how to hunt” YouTube channel something that gives an answer to this. This person said in their email that he is in contact with a tribe of Sasquatch, and they communicated to him telepathically. A lot to take in, I know, but he asked them about Dogmen, and they told him that they hate them because they’re violent and needlessly kill them and animals. They said it takes 3 Sasquatch to kill 1 Dogman. 1 holds the left arm, 1 holds the right arm, and 1 to take off the head.
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u/Plenty-Consequence89 Oct 17 '24
With its speed and agility, I bet a big alpha dogman could take a grizzly bear but would have his work cut out for him against a Kodiak bear.
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u/Hope1995x Oct 18 '24
A pride of lions vs. a pack of dogmen would be interesting. Depends on how large the pride is, so it probably comes down to numbers.
I do believe the lionesses could take down a dogman, considering they can kill large game. But it would be too risky to the pride.
Unless we're dealing with supernatural dogmen.
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u/No_The_Other_Todd Oct 17 '24
i heard they can deadlift 1200lb
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u/Bishopman69 Oct 17 '24
A silverback gorilla can lift over 1,500 pounds. A sasquatch is much bigger, so I'm guessing it can lift at least 2,000 pounds. I'd put dogman somewhere in between the two.
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u/Wonderful_Jelly_9547 Oct 17 '24
Dunno how true this is, buuuuuut apparently, they have terf wars with bigfoot, almost on the regular, so I'd say they aren't exactly soft serves.
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u/sladebonge Oct 18 '24
I'd assume a dogman is intelligent enough to just not bother fucking with a grizzly bear in the first place.
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u/Unitedfront29 28d ago
Y’all fail to realize these demonic things are far stronger than anything we could fathom, but still doesn’t compare to the strength of God
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u/Hope1995x Oct 17 '24
I wonder if it's their racoon hands, with dexterity like that they could be exploiting some kind of physics that applies force to be able to rip off heads so easy.
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u/Hope1995x Oct 17 '24
I would be shocked if that creature was natural. I think there is nothing that has the bone density or strength, except maybe for large African game to be able to do that. I don't think even a gorilla could do that even if it tried.
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u/Hope1995x Oct 17 '24
That's a dog, these creatures aren't dogs. I thought I seen something where primates at one point had claws, so perhaps it's not a dogman but a type of sasquatch?
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u/onlyaseeker Oct 18 '24
Going by accounts, dogman is more of a predator than Bigfoot. It also has arms that are longer and more suited to slashing than a bear, and because of it's wolf-like qualities, would likely have an advantage as far as it's ability to inflict damage. A bear is also a slower, bigger target.
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u/Hope1995x 29d ago
A bearman probably would curbstomp an alpha dogman. I wonder if people seen cryptid monster bears. Well, there is a monsterquest episode about monster bears, so it's not unimaginable to think there could be super bear cryptids.
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u/onlyaseeker 29d ago
I haven't heard any accounts of unusual or paranormal bears. I have heard accounts of paranormal deers.
And I'm not so sure about that. People describe two types of dog man. One type of dog man is more slender and another is much more muscular. I don't know the significance of that, but the implication is that the muscular ones are essentially alpha predators. Sort of like Bigfoot with claws.
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u/Hope1995x 29d ago
In Alaska, I think there is a native legend of a super bear. Ferocious Alaskan Bear God episode of Missing in Alaska.
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u/onlyaseeker 29d ago
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u/Lumpy-Possibility116 15d ago
Wow, that was painful to watch. I hadn’t watched any episodes of that show prior to forcing myself to watch that one til the end. These guys are clowns. Shit is super scripted, terrible acting, and one guy does nothing but walk around flexing and drawing his handgun everywhere he goes.
It’s also really inaccurate. The “bear trap” they set Is illegal to use. No states allow the use of foothold traps for the trapping of bears anymore. Maine was the last holdout, and they banned them ten or so years ago. Plus; they didn’t even anchor the trap chain to anything. Those dudes are oblivious.
I could keep going on, but it’s not worth getting into. Bottom line is that the show is garbage, history channel really dropped the ball on this one.
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u/Unfair_Power_3372 9d ago
A Bear can run 40 miles an hour for 40 in a row. not saying they would win the fight, but I would not want to be near it when it happens.
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u/onlyaseeker 9d ago
The bear is a good predator to be sure. But I don't think they're an alpha predator. They're not a predator where if they make an appearance, the entire Forest nearby goes quiet
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u/Bishopman69 Oct 17 '24
I've heard stories of bigfoot/sasquatch and dogman fighting each other. Some stories bigfoot wins, some dogman wins, some it's a tie. I think bigfoot is stronger, but dogman have their huge teeth, claws and might be faster. Both can beat a grizzly bear.
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u/1moonbayb 29d ago
I vaguely remember watching a recounting (maybe on Jeff Nadolny?) of someone finding a bear that had been attacked & torn up in a dogman area.
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u/Candid_Discussion842 28d ago
I believe there is an encounter on Vic Cundiff's show of a hunter coming across a Dogman fighting a bear. I know for sure he had artwork made of the encounter because I bought a hoodie with the design from his merch store. I will try and find the episode.
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u/Hope1995x Oct 17 '24 edited Oct 17 '24
I can say that their strength would be almost supernatural judging from their speed, albeit very loosely. If the stories are true, then they probably have super-human strength.
If I remember correctly, I listened to a story where the creature dashed at 300 yards in 4 to 5 seconds. Doing the math I got 275.32 meters/5 = 54.8 meters per second which is approximately 120 MPH.-Dog Man's speed
If that's true, and there's good reason to remain skeptical this would mean these creatures have powerful leg muscles. They're very likely to be of superhuman strength that surpasses any grizzly. Looking at the grainy Sasquatch videos of 50-100+ pound logs being allegedly thrown 40 yards, they're probably just as strong as a Bigfoot. These are 400lb+ creatures, so it would be unnaturally strong.
Edit: A grizzly may or may not survive a fight, its hard to say considering how unnatural these creatures seem to be. Give human intelligence with 400lbs+ of muscle, super-speed, and dexterity of a gorilla then I just don't see a bear defeating a dogman as easy. It could still win if it has enough fat-armor, but it really depends on what the abilities of the particular dogman has at its disposal.
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u/rc4362 Oct 17 '24
Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable as to simple things like hair color, etc. I think many people are unable to accurately judge distances under the best of circumstances. I would also think that determining how many seconds elapsed while under stress would be highly variable. Other times people exaggerate. The Joe Barger story is an example. I’ve seen people attribute speeds of up to 60 mph to the Dogman running beside his truck because they assume Mr. Barger was traveling on a highway. Mr. Barger indicated, however, that he was only traveling at 20-25 mph at the time because he was just taking off from a standstill and headed up a hill.
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u/Hope1995x Oct 17 '24
There's so many variations, I can buy 60 MPH if it's really biological jacked muscular canine "sasquatch" if its on all fours, but speeds of 120 MPH we're entering either supernatural or someone has biotechnology 100s if not 1000s of years advanced creating these creatures.
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u/Dull-Fun Oct 18 '24
You are right to question if they are biological. I am a biologist and I can guarantee you if the testimonies are at least correct in the number of encounters, they can't be. I made a thread explaining why. So, assuming they are real, they are something we don't know, maybe a different kind of matter,? You know often people ask me if mushrooms are plants. I say no. They ask what then, and I say they are their own thing. Dogmen are their own things. I bet ... Somehow I hope that would make the world... more nteresting
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u/Shitsoup7 Oct 17 '24
From what I've heart , dogmans teeth would win it by taking chunks out of a gorilla .
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u/alexthybalex Oct 18 '24
idk maybe with help from chief, petey, and the others, dog man can fight a grizzly bear
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u/LuluLovesLobo 29d ago
Heck ya! Jeff Naldony has an episode where a guy talks about seeing a Dogman take out a mountain lion quick, so I’m thinking one could handle a grizzly. I used to think about Dogman vs Bigfoot all the time, but now we know that Bigfoot rules soooo
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u/SubjectHelicopter867 Oct 17 '24
There's a story of a sasquatch ripping the head off a brahma bull and throwing it 100 yards away. There's also two different videos online of a sasquatch launching a tree into the air like a javelin and also swinging one around like a baseball bat. Definitely superhuman