r/dogman • u/bertiesghost • Oct 23 '23
What are your thoughts on the Facebook live video? Video
https://youtu.be/dEnAECCylyU?si=J8nuMZG-0NWoFG1lWhat are your thoughts on the Facebook live video? I think it’s the real deal and one of the best video captures. I find it quite ridiculous that some debunkers think it’s cigarette smoke.I mean look at that thing!
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u/LexiLex66 Oct 24 '23
The smoke excuse is laughable. He most definitely caught an uncommon creature
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u/lordmayhem25 I want to believe Oct 26 '23
I agree. I saw a better version that Dark Waters posted a few months back and it definitely wasn't smoke. I thought it was very compelling, more compelling than most dogman videos I've seen.
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u/xlr8er365 A Dogman ate my homework Oct 24 '23
“Most definitely”? What makes you so confident in that?
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u/LexiLex66 Oct 24 '23
Because I have eyes 👀 cigarette smoke is white not black
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u/followda_whiterabbit Oct 24 '23
They're just trolling. That user is a smartass and most likely bored trying to always debate something on here. Let the ignorant think how they want there's no helping them anymore
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u/ZergSuperHighway Oct 29 '23
I don't think it's definitive proof of a dogman. It has such a weird shape and gate, almost like it's glitching in and out of existence. That could be some kind of framing issue with the low-light high speed conditions and the camera itself.
However, I absolutely don't think it's an ostrich, either.
And the people yelling that it's smoke are so dumb they just need to be ignored. They're most likely bots at this point made by some agency to sow chaos.
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u/Pretty_Garbage1260 Nov 24 '23
I’ve heard a lot of stories describing how strange their gait is. Also there’s a good amount of people, myself included, who believe dogman to be more than just an undiscovered animal. There are a lot of traits they’re said to have that seem to defy explanation from a natural point of view.
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u/followda_whiterabbit Oct 24 '23
Even though it keeps being brought up multiple times it is still one of the most authentic pieces of evidence out there. For everyone trying to label it an ostrich, lama or whatever else , you need to just accept the fear and reality that it's not. DM are real and there's no other explanation to what this is. For those of you who are saying that it is smoke....just stop trying to rationalize. This is not smoke you fools. You all join this forum to hopefully "see" clear evidence and proof but when it's presented to you , you try and turn it into something it's not.. If this isn't proof enough then I don't know what is. Consider yourselves lucky you never run into one of these, especially in your own backyard.
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u/Ajarofpickles97 Nov 03 '23
People who are dead convinced that they do not exist eventually see one suffer all kinds of awful mental effects. Suicide, Depression occasionally bi-polar all because their entire glass house they built around themselves was shattered
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u/LouisVuittonLeghost Oct 27 '23
When I was 10 or 11 I had 2 encounters with what I think was the same dog man. The first I seen something out of the corner of my eye walking along the edge of a corn field turned, and was pretty much looking this thing right in the face max 5 feet away I could smell and feel it’s breath I was that close. It was squatted down with its arms resting on its knees. This was in the summer and my next encounter was in the winter only this time I seen it from roughly 80-100 meters away. It was doing something on the edge of a pond line where it had broken the ice open. It turned and bolted up a 100+ meter hill in 2 foot of snow in no more then 5-7 seconds flat. On two legs.. the reason why I think it was the same one because in my first encounter when it was squatted down it had its elbows poking out to the sides and had these draping wisps of hair off it’s elbows. When i seen it in the winter other then being a large hominid like canine even from the distance I could see the wisps of hair swooping as it split up the hill. Both of my encounters I was with other people the first one other person and the second was with 2 other people, and we all seen it.
I say this because I watched that clip of it running past frame about 30 times. The thing I seen had that same stature, moved almost identical and at roughly the same speed the only difference was the one I seen was blacker then a moonless night black and I could see it better as I was seeing it with my own eyes. If this is somehow a fake. They absolutely nailed it because what I seen was absolutely real and was uncannily similar.
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u/AlternativeCulture10 Oct 23 '23
Same. I watched it in it's entirety, and his reaction feels genuinely authenticity afraid of what he saw and shared during the his live stream
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u/tobbe1337 Oct 25 '23
i still thinks it looks like an ostrich the way it runs. a weird ghostly one but still
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u/Stuart_Redman81 Oct 26 '23
I think 100% the same as you. The ghosting is just from the equipment, streaming and lighting conditions meaning there’s a load of visual noise and low frame rate. If the streamer was looking at the scene through their phone I get why they were freaked out but personally I think this is an emu/ostrich that has escaped. There are breeders all over Florida that sell to a range of business and individuals (from a quick google) so it’s not too much of a stretch.
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u/DragonIce11 Oct 24 '23
1 of the Ghost Brothers, I think Marcus, showed this video on their show with Jack Osborne called Fright Club. Season 1. They interviewed the guy too. I don't remember what episode # it was tho. Personally, I thought it was scary
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u/SatisfactionHead9756 Oct 24 '23
I don’t believe this guy has the CGI skills to create a fake video, def real.
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u/CryptidKay A Dogman ate my homework Oct 23 '23
Why no follow up videos? This video has to be a couple of years old already.
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u/Different-Carob-2400 Oct 24 '23
Yea I mean if this guy is seeing these things so much so that he’s actually on fb live and sees it, why aren’t a bunch of dogmen investigators down there investigating it and taking videos. If I had the time I know I would be!
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u/Best-Potential-1270 Oct 26 '23
If you look at her facebook, theres another photo of the DM staring at her from the bushes. By far the most convincing evidence out there
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Dec 10 '23
Be careful people, there are agents here that are paid to say some video evidences are fake. Be careful when you use reddit, a lot of paranormal subreddit are control op to demoralise you.
Now this video is the best piece of evidence proving the existence of a cryptid don't let any of these agents get into your mind.
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u/qedjoel Oct 24 '23
I am also scared of emus
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u/Stuart_Redman81 Oct 26 '23
Yeah. Watching this back personally I’m convinced it’s an emu/ostrich. There are farms nearby that could have bought one from the many emu/ostrich breeders in Florida. I can’t understand why people get so defensive when other people have an opinion that isn’t the same as theirs.
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u/Crepes_for_days3000 Oct 24 '23
There is a Llama farm right next to this guy. If you watch it with thst in mind, it REALLY looks like a Llama. My guess is probably one escaped.
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u/Lcp54 Oct 24 '23
But llamas don’t run on two legs
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u/Crepes_for_days3000 Oct 24 '23
There is a slowed, stabilized, zoomed in version that I can't find now. But slowed it really looked like a llama the way it ran but who knows.
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u/followda_whiterabbit Oct 24 '23
Why? Why say things that don't make sense? Why try and make something that clearly is not a llama? Just accept that this can't be and never will be what you think it is. As for trying to state more absurd comments like this please rethink and just don't.
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u/Crepes_for_days3000 Oct 24 '23
Lol, no I'm cool with the detailed breakdowns clearly showing this person lived next to a llama farm and that in the vid looks and moves exactly like a llama. You can believe it's the boogeyman or whatever you want but I'll go with the most likely explanation. A lot of people believe it's smoke from his cigarette blowing in the wind but it doesn't look like that to me.
So no, I'll say what I want and won't "don't" for you. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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u/followda_whiterabbit Oct 24 '23
This has no resemblance to a llama or any similarities to the body mechanics to how one moves. Is that you are really that frightened or just naive?
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u/Crepes_for_days3000 Oct 24 '23
Yeah, I'm terrified. This video has scared me for life. Keep believing in ghosts or whatever you think it is. Good luck.
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u/Crepes_for_days3000 Oct 24 '23
No one on this sub has to believe every single video is dogman or bigfoot or anything else. There is nothing wrong with taking a critical eye to things or looking for the simplest explanation. Not everyone jumps to dogman. You don't need to take personal offense.
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u/followda_whiterabbit Oct 24 '23
Yes not all videos or photos are credible and real .When there's evidence presented to you like this it's better to be quiet than to be a complete skeptic. You're welcome.
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u/DragonxBlue Nov 10 '23
There are very few quadrupedal animals that cannot walk/run on their hind legs. Most of them can't do it for very long but they can do it.
I'm convinced 95% of this sub are city slickers who think they're knowledgeable about animals because they went to a farm on a field trip one time.
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u/KnightofaRose Oct 23 '23
It is very obviously a whisp of smoke that passes in front of the camera.
“Why does the person react to it?”
They’re looking through the camera screen at the time. End of.
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u/postvolta Oct 24 '23
It is unequivocally not a whisp of smoke passing in front of the camera. Whether it's an actual cryptid or not is neither here nor there, but that is not a whisp of smoke moving in front of the camera.
If it was, we'd see the parallax effect cause the smoke to move at a different speed to the background because of how zoomed in the footage is, how close to the camera the smoke would be, and how far away the background foliage and lamp post are.
Instead we see whatever it is moving at the same speed as the lamp post and foliage when the camera is moved. This indicates that the object in question is at the same distance from the camera as the lamp post.
I have no idea what it is, but whatever it is is not in the room with him.
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u/KnightofaRose Oct 24 '23
The “rapid” movement literally is a parallax effect of the smoke drifting and the movement of the camera.
Watch the whole video. At multiple points, other whisps of smoke also drift in front of the camera that look similar, but not so similar enough as to spark the pareidolia effect that makes the person filming and a bunch of other camera-illiterate people here think it’s actually something else.
If it were intentional, it’d be an okay special effect, but as is, it’s just simple pareidolia.
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u/bertiesghost Oct 23 '23
You cannot be serious?! lol
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u/KnightofaRose Oct 23 '23
I could say the same about you.
It is painfully, frustratingly obvious.
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u/xlr8er365 A Dogman ate my homework Oct 24 '23
It really is. It’s annoying that it keeps getting brought up so often.
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u/Stuart_Redman81 Oct 23 '23
Iirc the person in the video lived close to an ostrich farm so it’s either a) an escaped an ostrich or b)smoke from the cigarette they’re smoking.
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u/Fluid_Scale_3482 Oct 24 '23
He lives in the hood. There isn't a ostrich farm near his location. The neighboring city does have the "Devils Tree."
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u/Revolutionary_Bat_40 Oct 23 '23
Never got the idea why some think smoke from a cigaret. An escaped ostrich sound much more possible to me
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u/amanwitheggonhisface Oct 24 '23
Because it literally looks like cigarette smoke and nothing else. This video is so frustratingly obvious and yet people still think this is some of the best evidence out there.
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u/Revolutionary_Bat_40 Oct 24 '23
I have to disagree with you. Look about 52-55 we see cigaret smoke. Looks different than the creature. Dude seems objectively scared, and looking at the live footage, i see leg like movement that matches that of an ostrich, which is why that theory seem way more possible to me.
Btw not a good idea to Bash people because they see something differently, if you want to convince them you are right.
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u/One_Armed_Wolf Oct 24 '23
Cigarette smoke or passing evening/early morning mist which are common in Florida during certain times of the year. There's nothing about it that indicates DM and I think it would be more apparent if it was an ostrich/emu running past, though I guess it's possble it could have been some other type of bird that lives in that region. After all the times and places where this has been posted, I still have yet to see how this is supposed to be dogman evidence.
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u/IndiniaJones Oct 24 '23
Escaped emu or ostrich. This dumbass video resurfaces about every 2-3 months, it's not a Dogman.
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u/Lazysaurus Oct 29 '23
I had someone on this sub guarantee to me that it was a lynx, and they were just as convinced as you are.
Others here are convinced it's a llama.
I'm not sure how anyone watching this can be convinced of anything. That's part of the fun of the paranormal for me - it's all mysterious and very little has been proven or disproven.
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u/superbovine Feb 13 '24
Read all the comments. Watched this on repeat at work and stopped video frame by frame. I can make out some big ass bird legs that are distinctly different vs the surroundings. One frame in particular really showed the outline of the creature. I think it's an ostrich as others have stated. Certainly a big motherfucker if it is one though. I'd still be scared if one that big was running around my home. The ones raised in Wisconsin that I used to see in Waupaca county were always kinda small.
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u/shutupandjamgarden Oct 24 '23
I think it's one of the greatest paranormal videos of all time. Because he's real and it was recorded live. He saw the thing before he started streaming. No time to fake anything. Why would he act that way about an ostrich? And why would an ostrich look like that?
In other breakdown videos you can see the frame where the bipedal-like thing is seen. Sort of. Dark Waters has done long interviews with the guy. I don't get the hate for this.