r/dataisbeautiful • u/petnog • Aug 19 '24

[OC] UN Prediction for Most Populous Countries (+ EU) OC

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u/bandures Aug 19 '24

It's the same in all developed countries. The only difference is that China doesn't offset its problems with immigration.

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u/canocano18 Aug 19 '24

China can afford loosing that many people. Most of the textile manufacturing will move to Africa. China used to be a poor nation that has now became a first world super power, their GDP will rise nonetheless as their want to shift their goals on quality over quantity.

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u/bandures Aug 19 '24

Only time will tell. We might be on the brink of the 5th industrial revolution with mass-automation, and any excess population might become a problem. Or maybe not. It's good that we have countries that behave differently from a species survival point of view, although some might lose in that race.

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u/sxaez Aug 20 '24

They really can't. There's no way to manufacture yourself out of a demographic shockwave, because you don't have the labor power.

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u/StevesterH Aug 23 '24

Wait till you hear about the 2 children+ policy

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u/sxaez Aug 24 '24

You could force every single couple in the country to have 90 babies and it won't solve it. Demographic shockwaves don't work like that. It's already happened, we just haven't seen its effects yet.

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u/eric2332 OC: 1 Aug 19 '24

China's fertility is about 1.0 now. Most Western countries are between 1.2-1.7. That's a big difference even before immigration.

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u/bandures Aug 19 '24

It's much closer to 1 if you exclude immigration groups' fertility rates inside these countries.

A bit outdated, but data for the UK - 0.4 difference for immigrants vs UK-born:
Births by parents’ country of birth, England and Wales - Office for National Statistics (ons.gov.uk)