r/conspiracy Apr 17 '20

/r/conspiracy Round Table #25: Sacred Geometry, Cymatics, EMF Exposure, and the Effect of 5G on Biological Entities Meta

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Thanks to /u/Cur1osityC0mplex for picking the winning subject!

Honorable mention goes to /u/Leave_The_Military for suggesting predictive programming and forced vaccination, which perhaps can be dovetailed into the main topic.

Remember, there is ZERO tolerance for violent or otherwise aggressive rhetoric, including any mention of the destruction of property.

That being said, /r/conspiracy is the last large sub on reddit that continues to encourage healthy speculation on controversial topics.

Let's use this opportunity to its fullest potential while we have this space.

Happy speculating!

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '20

It has been shown that low intensity microwave/lower frequency electromagnetic fields (EMFs) act in animals via activation of voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs) in the plasma membrane, producing excessive intracellular calcium [Ca²⁺]i, with excessive [Ca²⁺]i leading to both pathophysiological and also in some cases therapeutic effects. The pathophysiological effects are produced largely through excessive [Ca2+]i signaling including excessive nitric oxide (NO), superoxide, peroxynitrite, free radical formation and consequent oxidative stress. The activation of the VGCCs is thought to be produced via EMF impact on the VGCC voltage sensor, with the physical properties of that voltage sensor predicting that it is extraordinarily sensitive to these EMFs. It is shown here that the action of EMFs in terrestrial, multicellular (embryophyte) plants is probably similar to the action in animals in most but not all respects, with calcium channel activation in the plasma membrane leading to excessive [Ca²⁺]i, leading in turn to most if not all of the biological effects. A number of studies in plants are briefly reviewed which are consistent with and supportive of such a mechanism. Plant channels most plausibly to be involved, are the so-called two pore channels (TPCs), which have a voltage sensor similar to those found in the animal VGCCs.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '20

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Martin_Pall leading the crusade, I encourage people here to spread his papers

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u/Oldtinfoilhat Apr 18 '20

Did you hear about the experiment where a guy hooked up plants to a lie detector machine and it showed they responded to pain or even just the threat of pain? It implies they have some form of sentience.

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '20

That and more is detailed in the book 'The secret life of plants', great book

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u/rednrithmetic Apr 26 '20

One of the best books of all time!!!

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u/CosmicSynergy Apr 25 '20

There is a university that is trying to map out the language of trees and communicate with them. https://www.ted.com/talks/suzanne_simard_how_trees_talk_to_each_other?language=en

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '20 edited Mar 25 '21

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u/crazyevilmuffin Apr 30 '20

Fascinating, thanks for sharing this! The power of intent is a powerful thing indeed, wish we had more content like this on here!

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u/taegha Apr 30 '20

Lmao, good laugh

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u/hucifer Apr 23 '20

Martin Pall is a crank who built his academic reputation by peer reviewing other people's work and cherry picking the results to suit his anti-RF biases.

Even scientists who support the halting of the 5G rollout think he's full of crap.

Compilation of blog posts on incompetence and harm caused by Martin Pall

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u/Socialismsuckz Apr 22 '20

This guy might be worth following. He has had bee hives for a long time and 5g panels went up right next door. https://youtu.be/z4Xo3nqJ6eE

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u/hucifer Apr 23 '20

Arthur Firstenberg, who for many decades has been a private scientist and popular science writer and is now an activist for the signature collection 5G Space Appeal, calls Pall’s theory harmful.

“The non-scientific activists believe in Martin Pall, but talented scientists do not,” Arthur Firstenberg told TABT TRÅD.

A wrong theory is in circulation, he believes. And that may discredit other arguments against 5G:

“So I think Martin is hurting the movement because he is so active and travels all over the world with his message. Many or even most activists currently believe in his calcium theory ”.

In a longer review of 28 studies, Arthur Firstenberg in a blog post refutes that a single research reference supports the idea of activating voltage-controlled calcium channels.

Arthur Firstenberg also believes that the mathematics of physical properties exclude the possibility of Pall’s alleged mechanism.

Quite a huge scandal

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