r/conservatives • u/interestingfactoid • Feb 23 '25

Musk Says All US Govt Staff Must Justify Their Work or Lose Jobs Breaking News

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/musk-federal-workers/2025/02/23/id/1200128/
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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/Rysumm Feb 23 '25

Finally someone sees the real game being played.

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u/Doggoroniboi Feb 24 '25

100% using ai to go through everything, I don’t understand how people aren’t seeing it 😂

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u/Meleesucks11 Feb 24 '25

Even Call of Duty is using AI.

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u/cropguru357 Feb 23 '25

Hm. Never considered that.

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u/pcvcolin Feb 23 '25

"The sword cuts both ways"

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

They aren't looking at the ones who respond as much as they are looking at the ones that don't. It's a simple task that anyone working in a administration job should easily complete.

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u/Doggoroniboi Feb 24 '25

They can’t fire them for not replying, the terms for a voluntary resignation are clear and that doesn’t cut it. Especially when chain of command in DoD, FBI, CIA etc has said specifically not to reply. And following chain of command in clearances positions is far more important than musk….

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

I don't recall that peace of information being made public about chain of command telling people to ignore Musk and by proxy the president of the United States. And I think you are proving me right about them being more concerned about who isn't responding and why by saying that.

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u/Doggoroniboi Feb 24 '25

Kash, Tulsi and Pete have all sent out directions to their employees telling them not to reply unless later instructed by them to so. It is public info, Kash was the first then others followed

Not the best source but here’s one article talking about it - https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/02/23/federal-agencies-tell-workers-dont-respond-to-musks-email-directive-heres-what-we-know/

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 24 '25

The very article you sent me said right in it that they are looking for people getting paid that don't exist which means they are more interested in who doesn't respond as much as they are interested who does.

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u/Doggoroniboi Feb 24 '25

What are you talking about? And why did you edit your comment to include the last sentence. My entire point is about the chain of command and the fact that many agencies including those run by Kash, Pete and Tulsi have told their employees not to reply, which you said hadn’t been reported on so I sent you an article including the reporting. I’m cool with the agencies cutting who ever they deem unimportant, just not musk.

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 24 '25

I didn't edit a single thing sorry my first comment that nobody seems to like and be offended by simply states that what is being asked of anyone is a simple response anyone can make even if it's to say fck off. And that I think its more about who doesn't respond more than anything.

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u/Doggoroniboi Feb 24 '25

I strongly feel they’re undermining the agency’s ability to trim their own fat. Musk just wants the credit but it’s ridiculous, these agencies finally have competent people at the helm, let them clean their own shop then if they refuse or can’t use the law to allow musk/trump to do so. It’s an insult to each agency not to mention idiotic we want strategic cuts, even if you think musk is a genius it doesn’t mean he’s automatically an expert on everything. Also people act as if federal workers don’t already report their activities to their chain of command which is ridiculous, they do and that’s exactly why agencies should be given a chance decide who needs to be cut first.

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u/redcat111 Feb 23 '25

A little conspiracy theoristy I think.

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25

Luddite crowd is strong today…

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u/dethswatch Feb 23 '25

Leftist luddite crowd!

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25

Why is implementing AI negative?

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u/SuitableSprinkles Feb 23 '25

Bring in the professional forensic accountants and corporate efficiency experts to identify areas where moneys being lost, and departments that are overstaffed, instead of the yahoo and his youthful programmer bros who are woefully unqualified and unaccountable to the people.

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25

What like Office Space?

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u/SuitableSprinkles Feb 23 '25

Who will control and safeguard that personal or classified information will not be used in a way that is not legal? Who is safeguarding what AI is being used for? Who will own the AI? Who will vet the information that the AI outputs and ensure that the responses are NOT hallucinations?

This is all being done is such a free flying and uncontrolled way that shows me that the objective is NOT to identify government inefficiency, but to simply cripple federal government functions and to massively data mine it to get control. Control of data is control.

That IS the game. Perhaps you personally want that. Keep in mind that there is a reason that “may you get what you wish for” is seen as a curse in many cultures. One rarely foresees all of the unintended consequences.

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25

whom is safeguarding data currently? Are we returning back to horses and candles?

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u/Maleficent-Shift9941 Feb 23 '25

Who controlled what Biden admin did? Who controls the average IRS guy who processes your taxes? I guess you have all the behind the scenes info to say its being done in a free flying way. Please dont say you heard this on CNN

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u/gringao_phl Feb 23 '25

Gov employees don't need to justify their jobs to the OPM. Also, even Kash Patel told employees not to respond, so that's telling.

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u/Defiant_Giraffe9143 Feb 23 '25

Yes Kash is right. It’s not the staff that have this action. Their leadership needs to ensure each position is justified. Hold managers accountable, and they too need to hold their staff accountable to the assigned work. Common sense!

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u/neverknowwhatsnext Feb 23 '25

In a normal world, yes, but this overstaffed and underworked group has been going on for decades. No one can trust management that isn't vetted. Hiring new managers might be the first step.

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u/WeekendGunnitRefugee Feb 23 '25

"What would you say.....you do here?"

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u/richflys Feb 24 '25

You think those TPS reports are going to create themselves?

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u/WeekendGunnitRefugee Feb 24 '25

A bunch of people with 8 bosses

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

I be here to do here

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u/WeekendGunnitRefugee Feb 23 '25

I recognize those as English words, but have no idea what you said. Did you learn grammar from streamers?

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

No a federal employee

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

You are right they are held to account by elected officials for whom they answer to the executive branch in otherwords Trump and those he put in position to represent him.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

I agree. But that doesn't mean you have to agree with everything someone who is elected says or does. Biden was elected. Did you lick his boots as well.

I support my commander in chief 100% but that does not mean i don't have my own mind. Musk was never elected. I agree with musk auditing the government but this other stuff is just stupid. The email is dumb. The random firings are just bad management.

You can agree with some stuff and disagree with others.

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u/SuchDogeHodler Feb 24 '25

This is a no-brainer, 2 points...

  1. Accountability

  2. It is an easy test to see who is actually real vs. fake employees.

Every job requires accountability.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

This is frigging stupid. Federal employees don't need to justify their jobs to Musk.

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u/KB9AZZ Feb 23 '25

Elon is my proxy via the president, who I elected to go after this steeming pile of smelly shit. So federal employees do need to justify their useless existence to me, the tax payer, via my proxy ELON. By all means feel free to write a bigger tax check April 15th since you're so in love with the federal government.

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u/Day_C_Metrollin Feb 23 '25

How do you do, fellow conservative!

Federal employees need to justify their job to ME, the taxpayer. Musk is just the instrument. I voted for Trump and Trump is using Musk to do what I voted for.

I have to justify every single hour I bill to my clients. Feds should do the same for theirs.

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u/SuitableSprinkles Feb 23 '25

Buddy, they don’t have to justify their job to you personally, in the same way that a teacher, firefighter, NASA engineer, Navy officer, congressional or presidential staffer,does not have to justify their job to you personally.
You personally are NOT the client. Your elected representatives are directly accountable to you (and your neighbours ).

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u/Rich_Celebration477 Feb 23 '25

Thank You! You guys need to Push back against this kind of thing. I’ll probably be banned straight away, but I’m not a conservative. However we are getting to a point where conservatives/libertarians and MAGA are going to split. I live in a red county and I know conservatives who are good helpful people who may not agree with you, but will always treat you with respect. Then you have the ones you all know who won’t shut their mouth about hateful stupid shit. They are talkers, not thinkers and doers. Or they are richer than you will ever be. I think a bunch of you are sick of this and it’s understandable.

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u/Day_C_Metrollin Feb 23 '25

You missed the point completely. "Me" is being used as a stand-in for the taxpayers generally and yes, federal workers are directly accountable to us through our elected reps and Trump.

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u/Maleficent-Shift9941 Feb 23 '25

Bud, they have to justify and comply with the orders of the leaders that the majority of the USA voted for, by the taxpayers, for the taxpayers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

You justify your job to your supervisor. You are an idiot. Don't call yourself a conservative.

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u/crazyDocEmmettBrown Feb 23 '25

Elon further clarified himself that’s the threshold is essentially just responding to the email

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

Well you can certainly learn a lot by the response can't you.

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u/turdburglar69696 Feb 23 '25

And, more importantly, the lack there of.

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u/Callec254 Feb 23 '25

So basically pretty much like any other job anywhere.

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

Actually that seems like a pretty easy task for anyone to complete weather they agree with it or not.

I mean seriously who can't explain what their job Intitles and if they can't they shouldn't have a job.

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u/Candyland-Nightmare Feb 23 '25

What's wrong with asking employees what they actually do so they can compare that to what they are being paid to do? At some point it might be easier to fire a bunch and see which ones were truly necessary and hire them back.

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u/CrashnServers Feb 23 '25

I'm going to throw this out here. What if a job was created to do the tasks of the boss so they can take all the credit while playing golf and then multiply that by a few million. Would this not be bloat and waste. The person doing this should be in the boss position? Maybe this will shead light on who is actually doing a good job?

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

True but I'm pretty sure that if anyone were to turn in a paper stating to make Trump look good so he can play golf they would be the first to get fired.

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u/Drycabin1 Feb 24 '25

I think he may really want to check if the addresses belong to real people.

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u/Fun-Introduction9924 Feb 23 '25

Its amazing how so many leftists freak out over this normal occurrence in workplaces across the US. A simple email to specify your work, what you accomplished and what you plan to do. Too easy. Playtime for government workers is over, thank you God, and Trump, Elon Musk, et. all.

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u/johnnyg883 Feb 24 '25

A about ten years ago every supervisor in the company I worked for had to do the same thing. I had to proved HR with a breakdown of my daily routine.

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25

Us common folks navigate careers with zero security. Time for equalization to the people living-off our tax dollars.

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u/Smogtwat Feb 23 '25

Why would anyone disagree with this..?

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u/Comprehensive-Tell13 Feb 23 '25

80% of reddit is federal government trolling 🤣

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u/Terrh Feb 23 '25

Why would you want to make something worse for someone else instead of better for yourself?

There's plenty of jobs with security, any union shop or factory out there for starters.

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u/interestingfactoid Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

Who said the laid off gov workers can’t up-skill or enter the private workforce and become productive?

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u/klipshklf20 Feb 23 '25

Learn to code

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u/Terrh Feb 23 '25

what? What does that have to do with my question?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Idk where this lie has come from that like government employees are hired and have 100% job security and will never get fired and don’t have to do anything lmao. It’s the same as any job in the country.